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Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:17 AM

Nancy Grace wails on Joe Oliver: "I hear him say fucking coons! I heard that, OK? I heard it!"



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/nancy-grace-joe-oliver-bleeped_n_1385017.html

"Hold on, hold on, hold on," Grace started to say. Oliver kept raising objections to the media coverage, and Grace cut him off again.

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"I'm saying the media's reporting that in general," Oliver said.

Grace then addressed the dispute over whether Zimmerman made a racial slur while talking to a 911 dispatcher. "I hear him say 'f---ing coons," she said, as she was bleeped out. "I heard that, OK? I don't need NASA to tell me what I heard. I don't need a reporter. I heard it!"

Oliver said that whether or not a person heard Zimmerman make the slur depended on "perspective."

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Reply Nancy Grace wails on Joe Oliver: "I hear him say fucking coons! I heard that, OK? I heard it!" (Original post)
Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 OP
tularetom Mar 2012 #1
Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 #2
drm604 Mar 2012 #10
tooeyeten Mar 2012 #20
southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #3
Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 #5
Ecumenist Mar 2012 #6
southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #9
monmouth Mar 2012 #4
efhmc Mar 2012 #8
whathehell Mar 2012 #13
RebelOne Mar 2012 #16
frylock Mar 2012 #7
SemperEadem Mar 2012 #11
On the Road Mar 2012 #12
tooeyeten Mar 2012 #19
Lasher Mar 2012 #14
Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #15
GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #17
tooeyeten Mar 2012 #18
Tom Ripley Mar 2012 #21

Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:21 AM

1. Zimmerman should get his money back from Rent-A-Black-Friend LLC

The one they sent him has malfunctioned.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:22 AM

2. Since the "police station" video, it looks like Oliver is in hiding, too.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:28 PM

10. Now I can't stop laughing.

This is not a funny subject, but I can't help laughing at your post.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:40 PM

20. the real organization

funding him could be the lobby that paid to pass the law in the first place. We need information to confirm how can he be on a media tour while not working?

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:30 AM

3. Arrest Zimmerman. The sooner you do that and get the ball rolling then we can see what happened.

 

Let the jury make the decisions. I think there is a blackout on getting ALL the information out. It seems Zimmerman's got their story and the law seems to be behind him. I think he is a liar and in court it will be proven.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:37 AM

5. Take a look at this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002492620

The city of Sanford really seems to be circling the wagons. They are absolutely keeping the information under wraps.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:43 AM

6. Thay've backed down from that stance. Amerigo. Let me see if I can find the thread.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:28 PM

9. You know when the shit hits the fan they are going to be sorry. I am sure we all just want the

 

facts. Any parent no matter what color wants the facts. I have a hugh feeling they are lying their pants off.

What worries me if this isn't handled right it may cause a race riot.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:35 AM

4. I think Miss Nancy deserves some awesome sauce for that display. I don't think I've

ever agreed with her on anything, of course because of that I rarely watch her. Good on her...

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Response to monmouth (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:51 PM

8. I usually think she is over the top and simplistic but this was good use of her usual

tactics.

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Response to monmouth (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:10 PM

13. You are correct...Always good to give credit where credit is due.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:57 PM

16. Yes, Nancy Grace is not all bad as some here seem to think.

I watch her and she does a good job of investigating the stories of missing children.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:51 AM

7. oliver heard the same thing judging by his "fucking goons" defense

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:03 PM

11. If you never learn anything else in life, Joe Oliver, learn this;

you only know as much about a person as they let you know about themselves. Period. Plenty of convicted mass murderers have families, kids, sit up in church every sunday and sing and quote the gospel--the BTK killer for one--and you can ask anyone who knew them about their criminal proclivities and they will all say the same: "he was a model citizen; he was a good husband and father; he was this and he was that. But NEVER does "he was a dark, dangerous criminal" come out of their mouths.

You only know what your boy wanted you to know about him. Therefore, you are not an authority on who he is. You only know your version of who he is, NOT who he actually is. He may never have used slurs in your presence; but in the presence of others--and clearly on the phone with the police--he used them. If denial makes you sleep better at night, have at it, Hoss. But we all are not required to ride your ride with you.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:06 PM

12. Listen Up, Nancy Grace -- Zimmerman Had to move Some Traffic Cones!

He was saying "f'ing cones -- they're always getting away!"

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Response to On the Road (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:38 PM

19. you right n/t

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:59 PM

14. CNN did an analysis of the 911 recording in question.

Zimmerman's call to police was among the 911 tapes released by police. Some people hear what sounds like a possible racial slur. CNN enhanced the sound of the 911 call, and several members of CNN's editorial staff repeatedly reviewed the tape but could reach no consensus on whether Zimmerman used a slur.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/30/justice/florida-teen-shooting-witnesses/index.html

This CNN staff is clearly more objective. Grace has little credibility. If you don't believe me, consider this excerpt about her behavior during the Duke lacrosse case:

Grace took a vehemently pro-prosecution position throughout the 2006 Duke University lacrosse case, in which Crystal Gail Mangum, a stripper and North Carolina Central University student, falsely accused three members of Duke University's men's lacrosse team of raping her at a party. Prior to Duke suspending its men's lacrosse team's season, she sarcastically noted on the air, "I'm so glad they didn't miss a lacrosse game over a little thing like gang rape!" and "Why would you go to a cop in an alleged gang rape case, say, and lie and give misleading information?" After the disbarment of District Attorney Mike Nifong, Attorney General Roy Cooper pronounced all three players innocent of the rape charges made by Mangum and Nifong. On the following broadcast of her show, Grace did not appear and a substitute reporter, Jane Velez-Mitchell, announced the removal of all charges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace#Controversies

This same Wikipedia article provides other good reasons to be skeptical of everything she says.

I wouldn't be surprised to see another analysis conducted of this recording. But for now there is no conclusive evidence to support claims that Zimmerman used an ethnic slur during his 911 call.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:31 PM

15. I heard it. Zimmerman = hate criminal.

That's why his supporters are so scared.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:18 AM

17. Nancy Grace?

Gimme a break.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:37 PM

18. Oliver's a friend? Really?

He hasn't talked to GZ in years until a few weeks ago? Who is paying Oliver to make all these interviews and not work? What lobbying group is funding him?

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:51 PM

21. He said "fucking Koons" since he is not a fan of Puppy or even Rabbit

Zimmerman is not only a murderous racist, he's a philistine!

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