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Related: About this forumNancy Grace wails on Joe Oliver: "I hear him say fucking coons! I heard that, OK? I heard it!"
"Hold on, hold on, hold on," Grace started to say. Oliver kept raising objections to the media coverage, and Grace cut him off again.
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"I'm saying the media's reporting that in general," Oliver said.
Grace then addressed the dispute over whether Zimmerman made a racial slur while talking to a 911 dispatcher. "I hear him say 'f---ing coons," she said, as she was bleeped out. "I heard that, OK? I don't need NASA to tell me what I heard. I don't need a reporter. I heard it!"
Oliver said that whether or not a person heard Zimmerman make the slur depended on "perspective."
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The one they sent him has malfunctioned.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)This is not a funny subject, but I can't help laughing at your post.
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)funding him could be the lobby that paid to pass the law in the first place. We need information to confirm how can he be on a media tour while not working?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Let the jury make the decisions. I think there is a blackout on getting ALL the information out. It seems Zimmerman's got their story and the law seems to be behind him. I think he is a liar and in court it will be proven.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)The city of Sanford really seems to be circling the wagons. They are absolutely keeping the information under wraps.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)facts. Any parent no matter what color wants the facts. I have a hugh feeling they are lying their pants off.
What worries me if this isn't handled right it may cause a race riot.
monmouth
(21,078 posts)ever agreed with her on anything, of course because of that I rarely watch her. Good on her...
efhmc
(14,723 posts)tactics.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I watch her and she does a good job of investigating the stories of missing children.
frylock
(34,825 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)you only know as much about a person as they let you know about themselves. Period. Plenty of convicted mass murderers have families, kids, sit up in church every sunday and sing and quote the gospel--the BTK killer for one--and you can ask anyone who knew them about their criminal proclivities and they will all say the same: "he was a model citizen; he was a good husband and father; he was this and he was that. But NEVER does "he was a dark, dangerous criminal" come out of their mouths.
You only know what your boy wanted you to know about him. Therefore, you are not an authority on who he is. You only know your version of who he is, NOT who he actually is. He may never have used slurs in your presence; but in the presence of others--and clearly on the phone with the police--he used them. If denial makes you sleep better at night, have at it, Hoss. But we all are not required to ride your ride with you.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)He was saying "f'ing cones -- they're always getting away!"
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)Lasher
(27,535 posts)http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/30/justice/florida-teen-shooting-witnesses/index.html
This CNN staff is clearly more objective. Grace has little credibility. If you don't believe me, consider this excerpt about her behavior during the Duke lacrosse case:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace#Controversies
This same Wikipedia article provides other good reasons to be skeptical of everything she says.
I wouldn't be surprised to see another analysis conducted of this recording. But for now there is no conclusive evidence to support claims that Zimmerman used an ethnic slur during his 911 call.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)That's why his supporters are so scared.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)Gimme a break.
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)He hasn't talked to GZ in years until a few weeks ago? Who is paying Oliver to make all these interviews and not work? What lobbying group is funding him?
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Zimmerman is not only a murderous racist, he's a philistine!