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EarlG

(21,943 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:39 AM Jul 2014

Pic Of The Moment: Today's Big Number



U.S. health insurers to pay $330 million in premium rebates


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Pic Of The Moment: Today's Big Number (Original Post) EarlG Jul 2014 OP
Benghazi! onehandle Jul 2014 #1
Sadly, some DUers think that is a rotten number. riqster Jul 2014 #2
+1 freshwest Jul 2014 #5
THATS' WELLTH REDISTRIBULATION ! ! ! ! trusty elf Jul 2014 #3
Haha! Good add to that hateful guy in the pic. Expected flames to come out of his mouth... freshwest Jul 2014 #4
No rebate for me geardaddy Jul 2014 #6
The GOP is hatin' blackspade Jul 2014 #7
But what about those IRS emails?????? Botany Jul 2014 #8
I see a larger meaning here genxlib Jul 2014 #9
Single Payer!!11!!11!!!! IronLionZion Jul 2014 #10
Al Franken was one of the Senators most responsible Eric J in MN Jul 2014 #11
Al had better get re-elected. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2014 #14
All together now.......THANKS a LOT, OBAMA!!!!!!!! MADem Jul 2014 #12
That's like one medical insurance company CEO's annual salary. nt valerief Jul 2014 #13
"Hate to disappoint naysayers but New England Journal of Medicine is.. ".. Cha Jul 2014 #15
Good news for Americans. bearssoapbox Jul 2014 #16
wooot t t t t t t flamingdem Jul 2014 #17
It's a small step in the right direction, but it's not really a big number EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2014 #18
GOT MY CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whatacountry09 Jul 2014 #19

riqster

(13,986 posts)
2. Sadly, some DUers think that is a rotten number.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jul 2014

Because it's not pure enough.

I say, hooray for progress, and congrats to Obama.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
9. I see a larger meaning here
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jul 2014

The money is great news. But in the gaping maw of health care spending, it is a relatively small amount.

For me the bigger picture is about future cost increases. If the insurers are returning money then it means they are spending less than their legal ratio. The end result is that threre will be no justification for future rate increases.

It is difficult to project this across the whole industry because there will be variability between insurers and regions. However, I take it as a goid sign that there will be limited upward pressure on rates.

In the big picture, controlling the rate of growth of health care spending is huge and we have already started to see it level off.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
11. Al Franken was one of the Senators most responsible
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jul 2014

...for this aspect of Obamacare (medical loss ratio and rebates when it's not met.)

Cha

(297,123 posts)
15. "Hate to disappoint naysayers but New England Journal of Medicine is.. "..
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 02:16 AM
Jul 2014

Randy Prine @randyprine Follow

Hate to disappoint naysayers but New England Journal of Medicine is the source http://www.nejm.org/action/showImage?doi=10.1056%2FNEJMhpr1405667&iid=f03

9:35 AM - 25 Jul 2014
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TOD

Mahalo EarlG!

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
18. It's a small step in the right direction, but it's not really a big number
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 06:54 PM
Jul 2014

At $330 million, it's bout $1 per American. And with total expenditures of $2.7 billion dollars* on health care, it's about 0.012% of the total cost of health care. It's a tiny, statistically meaningless number. Yes, it's great that more people are insured, but it's appalling that our health care systems continue to have profit as their primary mission.

To put it in perspective: I've seem estimates that a single payer system would reduce the cost of health care by up to 20%, a potential saving per American of about $1,500 per year. Very few so called fiscal "conservatives" will admit that nationalizing health care is the most cost effective solution.

* Gov't breakdown of health care costs in 2012: http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/downloads/highlights.pdf

whatacountry09

(91 posts)
19. GOT MY CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:10 AM
Jul 2014

Yup... I got my check. It's for $10.12. And I paid around $350 a month. What a joke.

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