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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:16 PM Nov 2014

Putin the Pedophile: When a spy mentioned the Russian president is a child molester, he was killed



Now we know the real reason Litvinenko was assassinated.

Poisoned spy accused Putin of being a paedophile

Alexander Litvinenko wrote a sensational and unsubstantiated article earlier this year accusing Putin of having had sex with underage boys.
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Putin was walking in the Kremlin grounds when he stopped to chat some tourists, among them a five year old boy. The president lifted the boy’s shirt and kissed his stomach. The incident was covered by the Russian and international media at the time but Litvinenko wrote: "The world public is shocked. Nobody can understand why the Russian president did such a strange thing as kissing the stomach of an unfamiliar small boy."

"The explanation may be found if we look carefully at the so-called 'blank spots' in Putin’s biography."

President Putin later explained why he had kissed the young boy on the stomach in the Kremlin saying he wanted to 'stroke him like a kitten.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-417621/Poisoned-spy-accused-Putin-paedophile.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/06/polonium-210-poison-alexander-litvinenko

Polonium-210: the hard-to-detect poison that killed Alexander Litvinenko

What happened next was one of the most brazen assassinations of modern times. According to British prosecutors, Litvinenko's companions, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun, slipped a colourless, odourless substance into his tea. Litvinenko drank. Not much, but enough for him to die in agony three weeks later in University College hospital.


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Putin the Pedophile: When a spy mentioned the Russian president is a child molester, he was killed (Original Post) uhnope Nov 2014 OP
My initial to this is like my reaction to reading about the world's villains of the past Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #1
I have little doubt the Putin is a pervert on every level. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #2
I can sure see where the term "Ugly Americans" came from. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #3
Ugly Americans? jeanmarc Nov 2014 #4
Here is the documentary film 'Putin's Kiss.' Takes a while but very interesting: freshwest Nov 2014 #5
First step imthevicar Nov 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Nov 2014 #7
you're the one shilling Enrique Nov 2014 #8
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #9
Accusing DUers of being shills is against the TOS and reflects badly on the accuser n/t arcane1 Nov 2014 #10
duly noted, thx uhnope Nov 2014 #11

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
1. My initial to this is like my reaction to reading about the world's villains of the past
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:13 PM
Nov 2014

It could be true, but I'm quite skeptical. It's not because I think Putin is a good guy. Putin is a tyrant, an imperialist wannabe and a rank demagogue.

I distrust accusations such as this made against leaders like Putin. What Roman historians say about their worst Emperors is a case in point.

Nero Caesar bankrupted the Roman Empire after the great fire of 64 AD that destroyed more than half of the city of Rome. Nero's pet project during this period was a grand imperial palace for his own use. The project was so lavish and so rightfully resented by the people of Rome that rumors began to spread that the Emperor started the fire himself in order to confiscate the real estate for the palace. Nero needed a scapegoat and settled on the Christians, who were regarded by most Romans at the time as as a subversive sect of weirdos who worshiped an executed felon who had been duly convicted under Roman law, practiced an austere lifestyle in a city that liked to party and refused to pay homage to Roman gods, including the emperor. Thus began the first of the great waves of persecutions of Christians in Rome, an on-and-off thing that lasted to the end of the third century. The tale that Nero actually started the fire have persisted down to our time.

The story is false. Nero was vacationing at his villa well to the south of Rome when the fire broke out. He returned to Rome and organized brigades to fight the fire. Whatever he did before or after the fire, while Rome burned he behaved like a good leader should. He wasn't playing the fiddle, or even the lyre.

This is not to say that Nero was a perfect gentleman or a good emperor who is unjustly maligned in history. In addition to spending money like a drunken sailor on a new palace for himself and his brutal persecution of an unpopular but very insignificant group of religious dissidents, Nero also murdered his mother (who was a piece of work in her right), murdered his stepbrother (a rival for the imperial throne), trumped up charges against his wife and had her put to death in order to marry his mistress and then kicked his new wife to death while she was pregnant with his heir. He brutally put down a plot to overthrow and kill him in 65 AD, but the plot was widespread and real. These are established facts. One might suspect that stories about his incompetence as an artist or what members of his captive audience did to leave the performance early may be exaggerated, as are perhaps many of the other stories of Nero's idiosyncratic behavior. Nevertheless, he was still a tyrant, even by the standards of imperial Rome.

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
4. Ugly Americans?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:20 PM
Nov 2014

These are British newspapers and the dead spy was not American when he wrote those words.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Here is the documentary film 'Putin's Kiss.' Takes a while but very interesting:
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:14 PM
Nov 2014


I don't for a minute think Putin is a pedophile anymore than the story in the UK Mail is credible. As far as the guy who was murdered, and his comments on Putin giving that kid a raspberry seem overblown. It was rumored he was a double agent. Now if you want to see some conspiracy stuff that is credible, watch the video. I'm going to Rec this because I know you're trying hard with these posts, but this one is not convincing.

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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
11. duly noted, thx
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:02 PM
Nov 2014

too bad being a (paid or unpaid) supporter of a dictatorship in not against the TOS. (Referring to others, not you.)

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