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"Never again will Brian Williams mislead this great nation about being shot at in a war we probably wouldn't have ended up in if the media had applied this level of scrutiny to the actual fucking war!"
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-on-brian-williams-finally-someone-held-accountable-for-iraq-lies/
The vid has been yanked from YouTube, but you can still watch it at the link above.
underpants
(182,803 posts)BENGHAZI!!
IRS
ACORN
etc.
Hell those "scandals" were CREATED by the media.
Not defending Williams but if lying by "the news" is that bad everyone is going to have to resign.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Because the same media with the same swarmy confidence of being able to control public opinion and policy at will, they will all lie again to cover their own asses, how can there be torture prosecutions?
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Without media enablement, Bush, Chaney, Rumsfield et al. could not have gotten away with the shit they got away with.
still_one
(92,190 posts)Do their jobs which got us in Iraq
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L0oniX
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underpants
(182,803 posts)Pat Tillman was sitting on the Tarmac at Bagram air base. Totally cut off from all media other than AFN probably. He noted in his journal that an entire battalion going after one soldier stunk of a "P.R. stunt" to him. From Krakauer's book.
I remember watching the "incredible" footage of the Lynch rescue on The Today Show - Matt Lauer, another facilitator - thinking "they filmed this? this risky of an operation and they had multiple cameras working?" . Later that day someone on DU posted an article from a Brit news operation (BBC? Guardian?) and all the way at the end their was a quote from a Brit P.R. Officer who had seen all the footage and "was glad British forces were not involved". Hmmmmm that's odd. The story started falling apart within days.
roody
(10,849 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)tnlurker
(1,020 posts)Thanks
tridim
(45,358 posts)If Williams is fired (and I think he will be) it will be the end of Faux. The entire network philosophy is based on lying big and often.
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Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)and recommended!
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I do believe he and Brian are friends.
Best to get it out with humor and snark than let the MSM run amok.
Does Williams have mild PTSD from getting shot at, if not actually hit? Maybe all the disasters he has covered had an effect on him
and (I'll leave the rest up to the pros).
Williams, unlike O'Reilly does not need to embellish his resume with enhanced stories.
Williams has also seen more fighting than Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest of the real liars put together.
I also don't see a hero complex but perhaps a touch of Thurber creeping in.
Hang in there Brian!
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)I suspect Jon felt similarly conflicted during the Anthony Wiener fiasco. Those two guys were roommates in college for a while. But yes, it has always seemed when Brian was on the show with Jon that there was a genuine affection between the two.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)turbinetree
(24,701 posts)Stewart is right, and now those that helped perpetuate the lie are and failure trying to have it both ways to cover-up there own lies and failures
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DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)trusty elf
(7,394 posts)K&R
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And Brian Williams played his part.
Just another "scandal" to keep us on the defensive. We know it is not about the news lying to us, if it were there would be plenty to be outraged about.
Stewart is the best at cutting through the bullshit.
mike dub
(541 posts)At least some, hell Any lies related to Iraq got called on the carpet, even if they were merely the lies of a news anchor. Far be it for Shrub or five-deferements dick to get called out for anything... much less prosecuted for their lies.
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lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)attempt for MSM "news" to try to redeem itself as the Righteous Victim and they've tossed Williams UNDER the bus to Defend their Corrupted Lying Asses....imvho---of course
Perhaps spurred by the fact ALL of them are losing viewers en masse' due the mass realization it is nearly All BS "News".
When FOX (All of them In Entertainment News) tries to convince it's viewers that their "reputations,credibility/honesty/factual" reporting is RUINED by Williams and IS the mainstay of what they Do? Shit has gone Much Further South....than I could have Ever imagined.
As I stated when this bs started....We would have NO: NBC/FOX/ABD/CBS/NPR IF everyone of them who "tells tall tales" (pretty sure at the direction of the big boys at the top) Had to do "the perp walk" on the honesty and integrity of modern News!
So grateful Stewart pointed out that which many already acknowledged.
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)The military-industrial complex was chomping at the bit, and there was too much f-ing money to be made not to go in. Money made at the taxpayer's expense, of course, but they didn't care as long as somebody was footin' the bill.
So - did someone, like a power broker behind the scenes, tell Brian Williams that he had to be the fall guy and take the hit for Iraq? And as projections to assuage their guilt, those in the mainstream media are starting to fault Brian Williams for even the most trivial offenses and oversights. Like a nagging cough, a troubling symptom that keeps popping up whenever inner pangs of guilt are felt.
question everything
(47,479 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)An anchor embellishing what was already a very dangerous helicopter trip is what gets our MSM's panties in a bunch?
And now the MSM is ganging up on him for this?
And this same media catapulted the propaganda in support of the treasonous war crime of an invasion of Iraq?
The American cognitive dissonance about the GW Bush years - that his administration deliberately lied us into war, is now considered NO BIG DEAL? There can be few things a President can do that's more treasonous than deliberately starting a war based on bullshit!
The entire 2003 White House staff should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Waging an aggressive invasion of a sovereign country on the basis of BIG LIES is one of the biggest shames of our nation since at least Viet Nam. We put people in jail for life for an ounce of pot. Surely if there was justice then the whole lot of them should spend the rest of their lives in prison. They are responsibly for the deaths of say, a half million people, and their cluster fuck of a completely corrupt war profiteer orgy of incompetence would not be allowed to stand in a decent and just world.
The continued MSM herd persecution of Williams for merely exaggerating his experience in an obviously risky and dangerous situation will be seen by many as the ultimate in down the rabbit hole hypocrisy. But, then again, nobody got prosecuted for our official torture programs, EXCEPT for poor John Kiriakou , who DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIMES, BUT, RATHER, blew the whistle. It's not the wrong doing that will get you. That's not a problem. It's exposing the wrongdoing that will get you jailed!
These are preposterous and utterly unjust times! And I think we as a country are tired of seeing absolutely no justice for the criminal psychopaths in charge of everything important in the world today.
Thanks, Jon. Any coverage that keeps the GWB war lies in the national conversation is to be commended!
-90% Jimmy
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)Get more substantive news from his show than the major broadcast and cable networks combined.
Peace
still_one
(92,190 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Jon Stewart
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)and still manages to make me laugh. But the real laugh here is the "serious discussions" between commentators about "truth" in mainstream media. Those buffoons sitting around dissecting Williams because "truth" is so important are fucking hysterical.
Baitball Blogger
(46,709 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Copyright claim by Viacom.
nilram
(2,888 posts)They're all there. I don't know why people bother posting these to youtube, but that's me.
samsingh
(17,598 posts)first place.
love Stewart, but I guess he's trying to minimize damage to his friend
90-percent
(6,829 posts)Now that his entire body of journalism work will be scrutinized aggressively by his hypocritical retarded-with-respect-to-their-critical-thinking-abilities news peers;
It will be interesting to see just how much of a propaganda parrot Williams was in the greatest abdication of Constitutional responsibility the U.S. press has been party to since perhaps WW2?
The entire main stream media is as culpable in the War Crimes and Acts of Treason of the against-international-law-illegal-invasion-of-Iraq as the entire 2001-2008 GW Bush Administration.
"If the president does it, it's not illegal", to quote Nixon. Talk about an out of control military industrial congressional surveillance war profiteering government! The creeping totalitarianism of the United States and replacement of Democracy with Oligarchy is really getting out of hand.
Considering our countries trajectory has parallels with the rise of Nazi Germany in the thirties*, shouldn't all American citizens be utterly bat shit about our current completely corrupted and perverse state of affairs? I mean fake wars created expressly for turning tax dollars and shock and awe mass murder into even more money for Oligarchs are something a healthy democratic Society would not tolerate. Same with grotesque medieval for profit prisons, which are simply a modern form of slavery, which we used to be morally against as a country and we sacrificed a half million souls in part to end slavery in our Civil War. Fortunately, our propaganda apparatus, as owned by our Oligarchs, has had about 150 years to improve on the technology of "public relations", so most American's will remain utterly oblivious to the magnitude of injustice that is our current totalitarian fascist police state. And it's preposterous to consider we would have the stuff to conduct a full blown civil war to end the prison industrial complex. Most Americans are fearful and propagandized into complete misinformed ignorance and just love themselves the security of our law and order system. Take my Constitutional Rights, please. Just keep me safe from terrorists. Phil Gramm was a hero in error when he said we're a nation of cry babies. Hopefully the next time Wall Street Gamblers wreck the economy so bad, there will be criminal prosecutions instead of no strings attached, sure, keep giving yourselves seven figure bonuses, taxpayer funded bailouts. No matter how unseemly it is.
-90% Jimmy
* isn't there some truism that once you invoke a Nazi analogy you have lost your argument or are engaging in cheap base debating styles? Are we headed down the 30's path of the Nazi's? Or is it more of the Oligarchy orgies of the Roaring Twenties or The Gilded Age and age of Robber Barons? If you know and respect history, we've gone through this before and a good understanding of history will help our country go back to the core values of Democracy and the most honorable hopes of our founding Fathers for the Country they created to escape tyranny, so we could enjoy some life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.