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Vic Tree

(90 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:27 AM Feb 2015

Stewart on Brian Williams: Finally! Someone Held Accountable for Iraq Lies

Last edited Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)

"Never again will Brian Williams mislead this great nation about being shot at in a war we probably wouldn't have ended up in if the media had applied this level of scrutiny to the actual fucking war!"

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-on-brian-williams-finally-someone-held-accountable-for-iraq-lies/

The vid has been yanked from YouTube, but you can still watch it at the link above.

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Stewart on Brian Williams: Finally! Someone Held Accountable for Iraq Lies (Original Post) Vic Tree Feb 2015 OP
alQaeda, WMD, etc. Right now - Sniper on top of the Superdome underpants Feb 2015 #1
Yes. That is true. If there are going to be torture prosecutions the media will have to all resign. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #17
Brian's lie didn't get anyone killed. 'Nuff said. maddiemom Feb 2015 #23
True but holding him accountable could be a start. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #25
Nah it isn't the start of anything, until they admit they did not still_one Feb 2015 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #32
...Hillary spiraling down in a hail of bullets ...Jessica Lynch hero ...etc L0oniX Feb 2015 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #35
Lynch, Tillman, and DU underpants Feb 2015 #37
Love, love, love Jon. roody Feb 2015 #2
My big belly laugh of the day! CTyankee Feb 2015 #3
I'll watch this later tnlurker Feb 2015 #4
I like how Jon understands this is about much more than Brian Williams. tridim Feb 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #36
Kicked Enthusiast Feb 2015 #6
This has to be hard for Jon SCVDem Feb 2015 #7
I know what you mean. ClusterFreak Feb 2015 #13
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2015 #24
That was a great rant liberal N proud Feb 2015 #8
FAILURE turbinetree Feb 2015 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #38
K&R! DeSwiss Feb 2015 #10
Excellent! trusty elf Feb 2015 #11
Sometimes I think that this was manufactured outrage zeemike Feb 2015 #12
The genuine outrage from some veterans was a good thing to see, IMHO mike dub Feb 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #40
Best! lonestarnot Feb 2015 #14
I see this as a HUGE Phony fredamae Feb 2015 #15
Back in 2003, It Was "To Heck with the Truth!" panfluteman Feb 2015 #18
Perfect! (nt) question everything Feb 2015 #19
Here is another "Amen". nt Duval Feb 2015 #20
Thank you, Jon 90-percent Feb 2015 #21
K&R nt raouldukelives Feb 2015 #22
Nice hibbing Feb 2015 #26
Brilliant, and the media still ignores their culpibility still_one Feb 2015 #27
k&R /nt think Feb 2015 #30
Oh, my, my, my, my, my, my! Thanks for posting! Peace Patriot Feb 2015 #31
Stewart, as usual, is 100% correct.. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #33
That was a proper use of the word "fucking." Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #34
"Video no longer available." KansDem Feb 2015 #39
It's on the dailyshow web site, first segment for Feb 9. Good one. nilram Feb 2015 #41
just saying that williams was part of the appartus that ignored the lies about the iraq war in the samsingh Feb 2015 #42
"williams was part of the apparatus" 90-percent Feb 2015 #43

underpants

(182,803 posts)
1. alQaeda, WMD, etc. Right now - Sniper on top of the Superdome
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:40 AM
Feb 2015

BENGHAZI!!
IRS
ACORN
etc.

Hell those "scandals" were CREATED by the media.

Not defending Williams but if lying by "the news" is that bad everyone is going to have to resign.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Yes. That is true. If there are going to be torture prosecutions the media will have to all resign.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:11 AM
Feb 2015

Because the same media with the same swarmy confidence of being able to control public opinion and policy at will, they will all lie again to cover their own asses, how can there be torture prosecutions?

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
25. True but holding him accountable could be a start.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:47 AM
Feb 2015

Without media enablement, Bush, Chaney, Rumsfield et al. could not have gotten away with the shit they got away with.

Response to maddiemom (Reply #23)

Response to L0oniX (Reply #28)

underpants

(182,803 posts)
37. Lynch, Tillman, and DU
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:23 PM
Feb 2015

Pat Tillman was sitting on the Tarmac at Bagram air base. Totally cut off from all media other than AFN probably. He noted in his journal that an entire battalion going after one soldier stunk of a "P.R. stunt" to him. From Krakauer's book.


I remember watching the "incredible" footage of the Lynch rescue on The Today Show - Matt Lauer, another facilitator - thinking "they filmed this? this risky of an operation and they had multiple cameras working?" . Later that day someone on DU posted an article from a Brit news operation (BBC? Guardian?) and all the way at the end their was a quote from a Brit P.R. Officer who had seen all the footage and "was glad British forces were not involved". Hmmmmm that's odd. The story started falling apart within days.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
5. I like how Jon understands this is about much more than Brian Williams.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:59 AM
Feb 2015

If Williams is fired (and I think he will be) it will be the end of Faux. The entire network philosophy is based on lying big and often.

Response to tridim (Reply #5)

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
7. This has to be hard for Jon
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:12 AM
Feb 2015

I do believe he and Brian are friends.

Best to get it out with humor and snark than let the MSM run amok.

Does Williams have mild PTSD from getting shot at, if not actually hit? Maybe all the disasters he has covered had an effect on him
and (I'll leave the rest up to the pros).

Williams, unlike O'Reilly does not need to embellish his resume with enhanced stories.

Williams has also seen more fighting than Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest of the real liars put together.

I also don't see a hero complex but perhaps a touch of Thurber creeping in.

Hang in there Brian!

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
13. I know what you mean.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:33 AM
Feb 2015

I suspect Jon felt similarly conflicted during the Anthony Wiener fiasco. Those two guys were roommates in college for a while. But yes, it has always seemed when Brian was on the show with Jon that there was a genuine affection between the two.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
9. FAILURE
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:17 AM
Feb 2015

Stewart is right, and now those that helped perpetuate the lie are and failure trying to have it both ways to cover-up there own lies and failures



Response to turbinetree (Reply #9)

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
12. Sometimes I think that this was manufactured outrage
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:31 AM
Feb 2015

And Brian Williams played his part.
Just another "scandal" to keep us on the defensive. We know it is not about the news lying to us, if it were there would be plenty to be outraged about.

Stewart is the best at cutting through the bullshit.

mike dub

(541 posts)
16. The genuine outrage from some veterans was a good thing to see, IMHO
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:51 AM
Feb 2015

At least some, hell Any lies related to Iraq got called on the carpet, even if they were merely the lies of a news anchor. Far be it for Shrub or five-deferements dick to get called out for anything... much less prosecuted for their lies.

Response to zeemike (Reply #12)

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
15. I see this as a HUGE Phony
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:49 AM
Feb 2015

attempt for MSM "news" to try to redeem itself as the Righteous Victim and they've tossed Williams UNDER the bus to Defend their Corrupted Lying Asses....imvho---of course
Perhaps spurred by the fact ALL of them are losing viewers en masse' due the mass realization it is nearly All BS "News".

When FOX (All of them In Entertainment News) tries to convince it's viewers that their "reputations,credibility/honesty/factual" reporting is RUINED by Williams and IS the mainstay of what they Do? Shit has gone Much Further South....than I could have Ever imagined.

As I stated when this bs started....We would have NO: NBC/FOX/ABD/CBS/NPR IF everyone of them who "tells tall tales" (pretty sure at the direction of the big boys at the top) Had to do "the perp walk" on the honesty and integrity of modern News!

So grateful Stewart pointed out that which many already acknowledged.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
18. Back in 2003, It Was "To Heck with the Truth!"
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:12 AM
Feb 2015

The military-industrial complex was chomping at the bit, and there was too much f-ing money to be made not to go in. Money made at the taxpayer's expense, of course, but they didn't care as long as somebody was footin' the bill.

So - did someone, like a power broker behind the scenes, tell Brian Williams that he had to be the fall guy and take the hit for Iraq? And as projections to assuage their guilt, those in the mainstream media are starting to fault Brian Williams for even the most trivial offenses and oversights. Like a nagging cough, a troubling symptom that keeps popping up whenever inner pangs of guilt are felt.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
21. Thank you, Jon
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:17 AM
Feb 2015

An anchor embellishing what was already a very dangerous helicopter trip is what gets our MSM's panties in a bunch?

And now the MSM is ganging up on him for this?

And this same media catapulted the propaganda in support of the treasonous war crime of an invasion of Iraq?

The American cognitive dissonance about the GW Bush years - that his administration deliberately lied us into war, is now considered NO BIG DEAL? There can be few things a President can do that's more treasonous than deliberately starting a war based on bullshit!

The entire 2003 White House staff should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Waging an aggressive invasion of a sovereign country on the basis of BIG LIES is one of the biggest shames of our nation since at least Viet Nam. We put people in jail for life for an ounce of pot. Surely if there was justice then the whole lot of them should spend the rest of their lives in prison. They are responsibly for the deaths of say, a half million people, and their cluster fuck of a completely corrupt war profiteer orgy of incompetence would not be allowed to stand in a decent and just world.

The continued MSM herd persecution of Williams for merely exaggerating his experience in an obviously risky and dangerous situation will be seen by many as the ultimate in down the rabbit hole hypocrisy. But, then again, nobody got prosecuted for our official torture programs, EXCEPT for poor John Kiriakou , who DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIMES, BUT, RATHER, blew the whistle. It's not the wrong doing that will get you. That's not a problem. It's exposing the wrongdoing that will get you jailed!

These are preposterous and utterly unjust times! And I think we as a country are tired of seeing absolutely no justice for the criminal psychopaths in charge of everything important in the world today.

Thanks, Jon. Any coverage that keeps the GWB war lies in the national conversation is to be commended!

-90% Jimmy

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
26. Nice
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:00 PM
Feb 2015

Get more substantive news from his show than the major broadcast and cable networks combined.

Peace

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
33. Stewart, as usual, is 100% correct..
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:35 PM
Feb 2015

and still manages to make me laugh. But the real laugh here is the "serious discussions" between commentators about "truth" in mainstream media. Those buffoons sitting around dissecting Williams because "truth" is so important are fucking hysterical.

nilram

(2,888 posts)
41. It's on the dailyshow web site, first segment for Feb 9. Good one.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:12 PM
Feb 2015

They're all there. I don't know why people bother posting these to youtube, but that's me.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
42. just saying that williams was part of the appartus that ignored the lies about the iraq war in the
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:16 PM
Feb 2015

first place.

love Stewart, but I guess he's trying to minimize damage to his friend

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
43. "williams was part of the apparatus"
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:40 AM
Feb 2015

Now that his entire body of journalism work will be scrutinized aggressively by his hypocritical retarded-with-respect-to-their-critical-thinking-abilities news peers;

It will be interesting to see just how much of a propaganda parrot Williams was in the greatest abdication of Constitutional responsibility the U.S. press has been party to since perhaps WW2?

The entire main stream media is as culpable in the War Crimes and Acts of Treason of the against-international-law-illegal-invasion-of-Iraq as the entire 2001-2008 GW Bush Administration.

"If the president does it, it's not illegal", to quote Nixon. Talk about an out of control military industrial congressional surveillance war profiteering government! The creeping totalitarianism of the United States and replacement of Democracy with Oligarchy is really getting out of hand.

Considering our countries trajectory has parallels with the rise of Nazi Germany in the thirties*, shouldn't all American citizens be utterly bat shit about our current completely corrupted and perverse state of affairs? I mean fake wars created expressly for turning tax dollars and shock and awe mass murder into even more money for Oligarchs are something a healthy democratic Society would not tolerate. Same with grotesque medieval for profit prisons, which are simply a modern form of slavery, which we used to be morally against as a country and we sacrificed a half million souls in part to end slavery in our Civil War. Fortunately, our propaganda apparatus, as owned by our Oligarchs, has had about 150 years to improve on the technology of "public relations", so most American's will remain utterly oblivious to the magnitude of injustice that is our current totalitarian fascist police state. And it's preposterous to consider we would have the stuff to conduct a full blown civil war to end the prison industrial complex. Most Americans are fearful and propagandized into complete misinformed ignorance and just love themselves the security of our law and order system. Take my Constitutional Rights, please. Just keep me safe from terrorists. Phil Gramm was a hero in error when he said we're a nation of cry babies. Hopefully the next time Wall Street Gamblers wreck the economy so bad, there will be criminal prosecutions instead of no strings attached, sure, keep giving yourselves seven figure bonuses, taxpayer funded bailouts. No matter how unseemly it is.

-90% Jimmy

* isn't there some truism that once you invoke a Nazi analogy you have lost your argument or are engaging in cheap base debating styles? Are we headed down the 30's path of the Nazi's? Or is it more of the Oligarchy orgies of the Roaring Twenties or The Gilded Age and age of Robber Barons? If you know and respect history, we've gone through this before and a good understanding of history will help our country go back to the core values of Democracy and the most honorable hopes of our founding Fathers for the Country they created to escape tyranny, so we could enjoy some life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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