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Wesley Clark: "Our friends and allies funded ISIS to destroy Hezbollah" (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 OP
Yeah, that's what we need. Our taxpayers funding the shelling of half the world. Indeed. libdem4life Feb 2015 #1
IMO the next president CJCRANE Feb 2015 #2
OH, NOOOOOOOZ maddiemom Feb 2015 #3
Yeah, the list of Democracies we've bombed into existence is pretty short. libdem4life Feb 2015 #4
"Spreading democracy" LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #6
And we fund our friends and allies, so...... DeSwiss Feb 2015 #5
My thoughts, too. n/t Tom_Foolery Feb 2015 #7
! DeSwiss Feb 2015 #14
there was an old woman who swallowed a spider.. frylock Feb 2015 #8
Are you guilty of teaching little ones? I know that one...and I sure am. LOL libdem4life Feb 2015 #13
nah, i just remember it from my childhood.. frylock Feb 2015 #18
She swallowed a fly, then swallowed the spider to catch the fly, then on and on. maddiemom Feb 2015 #20
Ah, yes. libdem4life Feb 2015 #21
there was an old empire that funded the kurds shaayecanaan Feb 2015 #16
beautiful! frylock Feb 2015 #17
Dr. Suess gone political ... kudos. libdem4life Feb 2015 #19
That you be about par for the norm. avebury Feb 2015 #9
One of the legal definitions of insanity: JDPriestly Feb 2015 #10
So nobody has gotten the other connection yet Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #11
Yes. DeSwiss Feb 2015 #12
This is what ISIL wants and the GOP is certaining trying to change history. Wake up sammy750 Feb 2015 #15
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. Yeah, that's what we need. Our taxpayers funding the shelling of half the world. Indeed.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:34 AM
Feb 2015

Problem is, Obama has no choice. He's just the puppet head, a bit more unwilling than most of our current political representatives and the candidates on the horizon.

WW III is afoot...will it be a black president who starts it, or a woman president?

We bought right into "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (to sell arms to). But they change sides and/or evolve way faster than we can adapt and switch out our arms. So many enemies, so few friends. So, we change regimes to get another friend where there was an enemy. See how simple that is?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
2. IMO the next president
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:44 AM
Feb 2015

is scheduled to do the "vision thing" to tell us why we're "spreading democracy" all over the place.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
5. And we fund our friends and allies, so......
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 12:31 PM
Feb 2015

...in effect we're funding terrorism with our tax dollars and children's futures, so they'll have job security.

- Wag, wag.

K&R

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. Are you guilty of teaching little ones? I know that one...and I sure am. LOL
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:07 PM
Feb 2015

But it's been so long, I forgot how the rest of it goes !!

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
16. there was an old empire that funded the kurds
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:42 PM
Feb 2015

how absurd, to have funded the kurds
they funded the kurds to fight the baath
what a laugh, to have fought the baath
they funded the baath against iran
what a sham to have fought iran
they're funding iran to fight SI
and as for that only Christ knows why
perhaps they'll die.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. That you be about par for the norm.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:14 PM
Feb 2015

People seldom take into consideration the long term consequences of their actions.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. One of the legal definitions of insanity:
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:30 PM
Feb 2015

Religious fanaticism can be an insanity defense to a crime.

Here is an example of a case of that sort.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/court-upholds-conviction-of-oakland-mom/Content?oid=2126734

Why in the world anyone would turn to religious fanatics for help in ousting a dictator is beyond me. It is one of the most foolish things that can be done. Lots of zeal. Lots of energy. But very little measure or judgment.

By definition, a religious fanatic is as likely as not to be unrealistic and follow the passion of the moment rather than a well considered strategy.

That is what troubled me about our involvement in Syria. I don't like Assad. I realize that he has been cruel to his people and has stirred up trouble in the region. But his opponents include too many religious zealots, fanatics who cannot be trusted to act rationally. Too many extremists.

What fools got involved in supporting ISIS? Dumbest thing ever.

Sounds like Wesley Clark is right again on this one. He is such a cool-headed strategist. Would have made a great president or secretary of state.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. So nobody has gotten the other connection yet
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
Feb 2015

The Hezbollah is not a great enemy of the US but

Israeli is and

"Our friends and allies funded ISIS to destroy Hezbollah"

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. Yes.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:30 PM
Feb 2015

I didn't want to mention it because I thought I'd risk the thread getting locked and recommended to go to the Israel/Palestine Dungeon and fewer would see it.

- I assumed that it was understood......

“Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. ”


~V for Vendetta

sammy750

(165 posts)
15. This is what ISIL wants and the GOP is certaining trying to change history. Wake up
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:24 PM
Feb 2015

parents. The GOP is your real ISIS of the USA

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