Paul vs Paul (Ron Paul vs Paul Krugman)

[SergeyDovlatov]

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This seems to be part 1 just before the break. Will post the next one as soon as it is available

[Lawlbringer]

1. There are few things that makes my blood boil

QUITE like dealing with Paulite supporters who use the word "EDUCATE" about anything. "Ron Paul EDUCATES" makes me stop reading and I get angry. Ugh.

Reading some of the comments, and even the description of the video, I got a pit.

Krugman was making sense, and Paul was just ranting and raving. It wasn't even a debate, it was just trying to talk over each other.

[SergeyDovlatov]

2. yep

Yeah. Comments are pretty much one sided. I avoided reading them.

[longship]

3. What do you expect for an idiot who named his son after fucking Ayn Rand

Stupid, ideological, selfish people. All of them. Fuck 'em all.

[Jamaal510]

6. Yet they call themselves Christians.

[SergeyDovlatov]

4. Krugman just blogged his impressions @ NYT

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/dont-know-much-about-ancient-history/

Don’t Know Much About (Ancient) History


The things I do for book sales. I debated, sort of, Ron Paul on Bloomberg.Video here. I thought we might have a discussion of why the runaway inflation he and his allies keep predicting keeps not happening. But no, he insisted (if I understood him correctly) that currency debasement and price controls destroyed the Roman Empire. I responded that I am not a defender of the economic policies of the Emperor Diocletian.

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Somehow, though, people like Ron Paul don’t like to talk about events of the past century, for which we have reasonably good data; they like to talk about events in the dim mists of history, where we don’t really know what happened. And I think that’s no accident. Partly it’s the attempt of the autodidact to show off his esoteric knowledge; but it’s also the fact that because we don’t really know what happened — what really did go down during the Diocletian era? — you can project what you think should have happened onto the sketchy record, then claim vindication for whatever you want to believe.

It’s funny, in a way — except that this sort of thinking dominates one of our two main political parties.

[AtheistCrusader]

7. Interesting.

Never noticed it that way, but it does seem a common thread, doesn't it.

[Taitertots]

5. Everything Ron Paul says is clearly bullshit to any economist, but easy for idiots to chew up

The problem is that to understand most of what Krugman is talking about requires a decent understanding of economic history and theory.

While Ron Paul drops nothing but meaningless aphorisms that requires nothing but ears and ignorance to understand.

[Mc Mike]

8. "Good for you, Congressman. You stuck to your guns.

Your weird old guns." -- 'Shep Smith', SNL.

S & P downgraded our bond rating in August. The Dow dropped, and Wall Street invested in T-Bonds or Bills, to weather the storm.

Then S & P subsequently goes on to give AAA blessings to new Wall St. and bankster versions of the financial instruments that they used to tank the economy last time. Which also had AAA ratings.

R.P. never cries about the Ratings Agencies, because that's business telling government where to get off. He just doesn't like the government telling business anything. Paul Krugman is the tops.

[underpants]

9. Marking for watch this evening