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Pic Of The Moment: Set Your DVRs For A Clusterf*ck In The Making! (Original Post) EarlG Aug 2015 OP
Great Meme Gothmog Aug 2015 #1
Where are our debates? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23
There is no message to counterbalance this. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #35
As I pointed out, we are allowing voters to get the impression that JDPriestly Aug 2015 #39
Had the Republicans fielded a slightly more acceptable candidate, we would have lost in 2012. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #42
This is not the truth passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #47
I firmly believe that we now have a chance. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #48
I want so much to believe. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #49
and people say wendylaroux Aug 2015 #2
LOL! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #21
And the loser is Cyrano Aug 2015 #3
Yep. I know people that think any of these clowns would make a great president. progressoid Aug 2015 #13
actually, it would be nice if we had a true multi-party system. niyad Aug 2015 #33
When the Donald's post seems less crazy dembotoz Aug 2015 #4
Or Russia... KansDem Aug 2015 #7
Six people who will never see the Presidency. Thankfully. n/t livetohike Aug 2015 #5
By the time Trump exits the race… Efilroft Sul Aug 2015 #6
At the moment, I can't remember who it was, but... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #51
That was Rep. Steve Stockman from (where else?) Texas. Efilroft Sul Aug 2015 #56
I'm thinking this could be epically funny lark Aug 2015 #8
It really is too sad and ugly for me to be able to laugh at it. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #22
Oh God yes. lark Aug 2015 #46
Well, the least you can do it to relocate to a blue state. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #50
Do you need pediatric nurse .... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #52
I"m not sure what jobs are open now but google is your friend. Portland is a great town passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #54
I've lived in warm/hot climates all my life. lark Aug 2015 #57
Come visit any time passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #58
The pics are incredible aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #9
Jeb! looks like a total doofus.....completely blank. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #14
When I first saw the delightful... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #53
True. You really hit the nail on the head. That's what Christie is about. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #40
I like your strategy Earl G Generic Other Aug 2015 #10
I'm going to watch it with the Philadelphia Democratic Progressive Caucus. onehandle Aug 2015 #11
The main thing that bothers me about all of their hot air and Grammy23 Aug 2015 #12
You're SO correct here Plucketeer Aug 2015 #16
I am waiting for the current version of witch burnings dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #29
sadly, this has already been threatened by some of the more woman-hating branches of the niyad Aug 2015 #34
which one will still be floatin'... 63splitwindow Aug 2015 #15
Naw,...can't flush in an outhouse. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #19
Then how about: A Simple Game Aug 2015 #27
The real insanity, the real comedy is the people who will view this packman Aug 2015 #17
Ok..I admit it..first time I have wished we still had a tv dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #30
Not sure if I want to tune in for the comedic performance d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #18
Ugh...personally, I think this is REALLY bad for America. SoapBox Aug 2015 #20
Time to stock up on the butter and the beer! Initech Aug 2015 #24
Christie should be punched in the face mindwalker_i Aug 2015 #25
I was going to say a cream pie to the face but he would probably enjoy that. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #28
Attention: "First" GOP debate will be on CSPAN tonight, Aug. 3. ALL candidates. seafan Aug 2015 #26
I used to make fun of my friends 4 watching the 3 Stooges (who I thought were singularly UN-funny).. Bill USA Aug 2015 #31
What a relief to find that I am... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #55
Isn't this stupid thing on Fox news? jimlup Aug 2015 #32
Walker getting Punked zebonaut Aug 2015 #36
Keep clusterfucking yourselves, nutjobs! Charles de Gaudless Aug 2015 #37
i know i wiol for sure have my tv off tonight allan01 Aug 2015 #38
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #41
"Ted Cruz Gets Jealous Of Trump Coverage, Lashes Out At Obama To Feel Better About Himself" Cha Aug 2015 #43
Sarah Palin should be included rizlaplus Aug 2015 #44
Better than the cartoon network. Attention fucking whores creation by Ailes should be good but not lonestarnot Aug 2015 #45

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. Where are our debates?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

I wrote this reply to a post on the Republican debates, but the thread was locked.

It's great to make fun of the Republican candidates, but there is really nothing to laugh about.

***

Fascism/NAZIism in our country has now reached the stage in which there is consensus among the Fascists as to who the scapegoat on which they focus their united anger is going to be.

That is a danger signal.

Where is the Democratic response to all this?

Why aren't we Democrats excitedly talking about our upcoming debates? about fairness? about tolerance? about equality? about justice?

Why are we letting this Fascist bunch steal the headlines with their hate?

This is how we lose not just the White House but democracy.

This is why we are having an explosion of racism and hate.

And this is why that dangerous explosion could get a lot worse. There is no message to counterbalance this.

This is how you lose the power of a strong brand -- the Democratic Party brand. You fail to advertise. You fail to get your products on the shelves. You fail to allow consumers to choose whether they want the one with the calcium or the one without, the one with the raisins or the one without.

This is a big, big, big, big fail by the current Democratic Party leadership.


Acquiescence to Fascism/NAZIism strengthens it.

It is time for Democrats to get our message of compassion and working together out there loud and clear.

It is time for us to show America that we have several candidates and that our candidates agree on the basic direction for America but there are also disagreements among them.

It is time to begin to put the choices that we will present to America before the people.

The Democratic debates should begin AND SOON.

***

I have a theory on this (as I usually do; take or leave it but if you leave it, please explain why):

[iThe Democratic leadership is so dependent financially and personally on their positions of power and the money and inside knowledge and control it gives them, that they are terrified of early and frequent debates because they know that their chosen spokesperson will be shown as a poor debater, a slow thinker and that they who have put everything they are and have behind her will lose their power.


That's why.

C O R R U P T I O N !

***

We should be holding Democratic debates and getting on with this.

The Democratic leadership is utterly, shamelessly unwilling to allow us to have the national discussion about the direction of our party that early debates would permit.

***

Politics is about dissent an discussion, and the Democratic Party leadership is trying to silence that.

Let the debates begin!

Go, Bernie. Feel the Bern.


 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
35. There is no message to counterbalance this.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:51 PM
Aug 2015

I'm sure there are plenty of messages from the Dems on this.


But how do you get the conservative owned media to cover it?


And I think the Dems should have scheduled debates.... even if (wisely) closer to the primary.... already and announced them.

I do like that Dems don't seem hysterical and so unhinged. Of course steady and thoughtful doesn't make spectacular headlines.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. As I pointed out, we are allowing voters to get the impression that
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

only the Republicans have it together enough to have debates, that only the Republicans have a message and ideas.

Our Democratic Party leadership is failing us.

This is how and why we lost so big in 2014. Had the Republicans fielded a slightly more acceptable candidate, we would have lost in 2012.

Our message is milque-toast. We don't get it out there with energy and excitement.

It's so frustrating for me. Because we are the Party of the best ideas, but we don't share them so that the voters can see us for just how important we are for the country.

The leadership in the Democratic Party acts as though it has been kidnapped, has its hands and legs tied behind its back and dares not more, speak or offend its captors.

And who might those captors be? How about big donors.

I live in Los Angeles where movie billboards and ads are everywhere.

I saw an ad for a movie, Ready for ...... starring a famous actress who might remind a lot of people of one of our Democratic candidates. I haven't seen the movie. It probably has no parallel or relevance or tie to the Hillary candidacy, but when I saw the billboard, I realized what is bothering me so much about Hilary's campaign.

IT LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE A MARKETING CAMPAIGN, like a product roll-out. Hillary fans are going to hate me for this, but I suddenly saw Hillary not as a person, not as a president, but as a product. Her campaign is like a sales campaign for some breakfast cereal or something.

That first ad was straight out of a breakfast cereal commercial. Eat America's first breakfast tomorrow.

Sorry. This is going to be interpreted as another attack on Hillary. But it has nothing to do with her. It's the way her campaign is being rolled out. It's the Hollywood and Madison Fifth Avenue glitz of it. It really troubles me. A sales campaign, not an election campaign.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
42. Had the Republicans fielded a slightly more acceptable candidate, we would have lost in 2012.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:45 PM
Aug 2015

a slightly more acceptable candidate....like who?

Practically the same bozos are running again this year..... because they lost.

All these debates early on just get people tired of debates, and it doesn't look like the repugs have their shit together. It looks like another clown car...so full they won't have time to actually debate anything. Besides, we're gonna hear the same baloney we heard the last time about SS and immigrants, and activist judges, and how awful Obamacare is and how it's not working.

All the people who have decided to vote for the repugs already will be there all beaming and full of it. Independents however are just gonna notice the same ol' same ol'.


BTW.... we DID win in 2012. And the ACA is not as scary as it was in 2014. Plus they can't use the black man in the White House to scare people like they did in 2014. I remember every anti Kay Hagan ad was all about Obama and the ACA. You'd have thought Hagan was actually running the government from an undisclosed location! They lied and said she "cast the deciding vote for Obamacare!" Are they gonna be able to make anyone appear like Obama's minion in 2016?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
47. This is not the truth
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:03 PM
Aug 2015
It's so frustrating for me. Because we are the Party of the best ideas, but we don't share them so that the voters can see us for just how important we are for the country.


The progressive liberals are the party with the best ideals. The Dem center and center right adopt a similar plan to the republicans economic plan.

Not so much when Obama was campaigning...he put forth some very good ideas...but most could not be followed through with as hoped for. Some things got through (like Obama Care.

The dems don't promote the progressive left ideas, because even though they are the best ideas, they don't believe they can win with them.

We really can't share them...until now with Bernie. Maybe now we finally have a chance.

Cyrano

(15,020 posts)
3. And the loser is
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:35 PM
Aug 2015

the American people.

How could one of our major parties have descended this far into insanity?

A one-party country is not a stable one. Two parties are needed so people can choose between opposing ideas of government.

In short, America is dysfunctional right now. And what really frightens the hell out of me is the chance that one of these Republicans could end up in the White House.

Efilroft Sul

(3,573 posts)
6. By the time Trump exits the race…
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:42 PM
Aug 2015

…he's going to have made the other GOP candidates ratchet up the crazy so much that one of them will propose a flat tax to fund armed fetuses who will guard our southern border with Mexico.

3catwoman3

(23,812 posts)
51. At the moment, I can't remember who it was, but...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:56 PM
Aug 2015

...there is one Republican member of congress who actually said, "If babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted." Gives concealed carry a whole new meaning.

Efilroft Sul

(3,573 posts)
56. That was Rep. Steve Stockman from (where else?) Texas.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:20 PM
Aug 2015

He calls himself the most conservative member of Congress. He's the most something, all right.

lark

(22,993 posts)
8. I'm thinking this could be epically funny
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015

in a very sad way for the Repug party. These clowns are a major joke, only the RW doesn't get it and thinks these are the best people to govern this large diverse country of ours. Unbelievable!

lark

(22,993 posts)
46. Oh God yes.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015

If big money wins out and gets a Repug as president, my husband and I are leaving the country. It would just be too sad to stay here seeing this great place destroyed on purpose by the ultra greedy 1%. Not sure where we'd go, have looked at several places. Right now Portugal is sounding pretty good, but we need to go there first and see if it's really as good as my cousin says.

Of course, I'm hoping sanity prevails and will do everything I can to help this occur. However big $$ got Scott a 2nd term here in FL, which i never thought could happen, so am certainly not 100% confident we can win in the general.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
54. I"m not sure what jobs are open now but google is your friend. Portland is a great town
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:10 PM
Aug 2015

Portland is a great town.. So is Ashland and Eugene. But there are tons of rural towns and small hospitals that may need your skills.

lark

(22,993 posts)
57. I've lived in warm/hot climates all my life.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 06:13 PM
Aug 2015

Lived in CA for 18 years in the Silicon Valley area and loved it. However, having spent the last 26 years of my life in FL. to my folks as they aged, I can't afford to move to the West Coast when I retire within the next 2 years.

I do love visiting Oregon and CA, though, and thank you for the invite! It is beautiful and "blue" there and I definitely appreciate that.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
58. Come visit any time
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:33 PM
Aug 2015

Especially summer if you like hot climates, as it's getting hotter here all the time.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
9. The pics are incredible
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015

The one of Christie is scary. It makes me think I'm on a desert island with Christie with nothing to eat and in a couple of days he starts looking at me as if I suddenly transformed before his eyes into a jelly donut.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. Jeb! looks like a total doofus.....completely blank.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:28 PM
Aug 2015

Something about Cruz's face strikes me as all wrong, like an alien in poor disguise.

3catwoman3

(23,812 posts)
53. When I first saw the delightful...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:10 PM
Aug 2015

First Men in Black movie, I remember thinking that it actually made a lot of sense.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. True. You really hit the nail on the head. That's what Christie is about.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:12 PM
Aug 2015

A cannibal in waiting. That's what bothers me about him, and readomg your post was the first time I realized it.

Christie the Cannibal. Primitive as everything. That New Jersey elected him governor does not say much good about New Jersey, and I have some wonderful friends from New Jersey so I am not intrinsically opposed to New Jersy. It's just Christie I don't like.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. I'm going to watch it with the Philadelphia Democratic Progressive Caucus.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

At a bar with really good beer to make it tolerable.

Grammy23

(5,807 posts)
12. The main thing that bothers me about all of their hot air and
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:09 PM
Aug 2015

Bloviating is.....while many of us are disturbed by it and genuinely horrified....each one of these carnival acts has a following. There actually ARE people who agree with them and nod enthusiastically over the most outrageous things they say. Yes, their negative ratings are high, too, but it really concerns me the sheer number of people who resonate to that kind of rhetoric. I fear this country is long past being a "more perfect union".

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. You're SO correct here
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:58 PM
Aug 2015

it's their supporters that make it a sobering, scary consideration. Hell, I've got neighbors who extoll the virtues of Trump and his "straight talk".

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
29. I am waiting for the current version of witch burnings
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:17 PM
Aug 2015

and am not saying that lightly.
The American Taliban is on the move, and pushing us back a century.

niyad

(112,424 posts)
34. sadly, this has already been threatened by some of the more woman-hating branches of the
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

american taliban in years past.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
15. which one will still be floatin'...
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:55 PM
Aug 2015

when all the flushin' is done? (Wait- did I just write a country song?)

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
27. Then how about:
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

Which turd will still be show'n
when the lime quits a flow'n

It used to be common practice to sprinkle lime into the outhouse holes to keep the smell down.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. The real insanity, the real comedy is the people who will view this
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

will be enjoying it and probably get something out of it. Nevertheless, I will be and and

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
30. Ok..I admit it..first time I have wished we still had a tv
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:20 PM
Aug 2015

but I am sure that somewhere on line..................

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
18. Not sure if I want to tune in for the comedic performance
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:20 PM
Aug 2015

Especially since I remember the last one I watched with Michelle Bachman. She said the prez was the worst one in history and the next day every right wing outlet was running with that statement.



YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH.....

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
20. Ugh...personally, I think this is REALLY bad for America.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

I know we talk about some of this being "funny" but I think it stirs hate and unrest.

Could be just me.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
25. Christie should be punched in the face
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 03:46 PM
Aug 2015

Although one might lose their hand as and a good part of their arm in that mug.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
31. I used to make fun of my friends 4 watching the 3 Stooges (who I thought were singularly UN-funny)..
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:21 PM
Aug 2015

how did I know the Stooges were preparing them for the future Republican party! Now, they aren't nearly as dumbfounded as I am. They just see it as an expansion of the Stooges franchise to 17 Stooges (at last count?) ... and counting!

3catwoman3

(23,812 posts)
55. What a relief to find that I am...
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 04:15 PM
Aug 2015

...not the only person who did not find the 3 Stooges even remotely amusing.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
32. Isn't this stupid thing on Fox news?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:50 PM
Aug 2015

They won't ask any real questions and the ones they do ask will have all of the rightwing assumptions already built in. This will be a puff ball show.

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
36. Walker getting Punked
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:55 PM
Aug 2015


Please run the Debate on the Comedy Channel with Voiceovers and Color announcing....! Priceless

 
37. Keep clusterfucking yourselves, nutjobs!
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:16 PM
Aug 2015

Not only will we keep the White House next year, we've a good chance of retaking the Senate.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
43. "Ted Cruz Gets Jealous Of Trump Coverage, Lashes Out At Obama To Feel Better About Himself"
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:22 AM
Aug 2015

Bwaaaa!

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
45. Better than the cartoon network. Attention fucking whores creation by Ailes should be good but not
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:44 AM
Aug 2015

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giving faux snooze the ratings, will view elsewhere. Will Chris Crispie sit on Donald Mudflap'w face or will they just mud wrestle/rassle.

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