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Related: About this forumVideo Shows Exact Moment 1,400 Employees Learn They Are Losing Their Jobs to Mexico
Although the decision to inform a workforce of 1,400 employees that theyll soon be losing their jobs to Mexico is an admirable one from the standpoint of candor, it hardly makes for a good recipe for workplace morale.
A cell phone video taken at Carrier Air Conditioner in Indianapolis shows the exact moment that the plant and union workers were told that the company had decided to shift production south of the border. The best way to stay competitive and protect the business for longterm is to move production from our facility in Indianapolis to Monterrey, Mexico, says the company representative at the microphone.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/video-shows-exact-moment-1400-employees-learn-they-are-losing-their-jobs-to-mexico/
Renew Deal
(81,886 posts)"Yeah, F you!"
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Voted GOP. Conservatives and Democrats that had to move to the right to gain there votes are the people responsible. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
Half the people in that room blame immigration on their job loss. A quarter of them spent the last 10 years voting based on gay marriage and the bible. I'm sure many of them think they would be in Harvard were it not for the evils of affirmative action.
I'm tired of white working class votes driving the country off a cliff.
Good riddance! Maybe someday they will learn.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)Lets say, all of those white folks had voted straight Democratic tickets for the last 10 years. Exactly how would that have changed the circumstances they are in now?
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Here is why.
The democrats have been forced to nominate (locally and nationally) politicians to the right in order to win enough support from voters in a room like this to get elected. This is how we ended up with democratic presidents like Bill Clinton who instituted these trade deals. The folks in that room won't vote for a Jerry Brown in 1992. Or a Denis Kucinich in 2008. Or a Bernie Sanders in 2016.
So thanks to these voters and their warped sense of the world, they have actually corrupted 2 political parties.
Nancy Pelosi would be the most despised person in that room if she were there. I would bet my bottom dollar support for Ted Cruz or Indiana Governor Mike Pence is through the roof!
Like I said, to some degree, the white working class is getting what they are owed.
'What's the matter with Kansas" applies to a lot of places. That manufacturing warehouse included.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)that because they did not vote for the candidates that you support, they deserve to loose their jobs.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)What I am saying is that they lost their jobs because of the candidates THEY likely supported.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)you stated "it would not have changed at all" in response to my question about what would happen if they had voted for Democrats
In the case of these folks, they could have voted solidly Democratic for the last decade and it would not have changed a thing. They would have still lost their jobs.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)is because the Democratic party has been forced to nominate candidates way to far to the right in order to appeal to them.
The effort to appeal to white working class voters has in a way taken down both parties. This is why NAFTA was instituted by a Democrat. The Democratic party had to nominate a conservative in order to win their votes. Thus, Democrats are largely no better than Republicans.
I hope that is clear.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)The majority gets to decide. Sometimes it is messy and not always the way we would like it to be. But the folks that cast the votes get to make the decisions. Sorry that your candidates of choice have not won in the past, they lost because a majority of voters decided that they preferred another candidates. That is how it works. You have attacked those folks that worked for Carrier A/C
as possibly voting for candidates other than what you would have preferred. You do not know how they voted. You have made a very broad brushed generalization that because they were white, the some how automatically voted for republicans. And therefore they should lose their jobs. To hell with their families, it simply because they "may" have voted in a manner that you did not approve of. An interesting point of view on a Progressive web site. JMO
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Republican a lot, probably most, of the time.
We Americans need to vote for Bernie Sanders. He is the politician most likely to refuse to sign the TPP and to renegotiate other trade agreements to protect American jobs and fair trade not "free" trade.
polly7
(20,582 posts)EV_Ares
(6,587 posts)The past few years have been very good for United Technologies. The contractor does billions of dollars a year in business with the federal government. CEO Gregory Hayes pulled down nearly $10 million in 2014, and over $20 million the year before. On Thursday, the company reported $7.6 billion in profits, up from $6.2 billion the year before, and $5.7 billion the year before that. In October, United Technologies even expanded its stock buyback program to $12 billion. By spending the company's own money on it' stock, it elevates the value of its share prices. It was so flush with cash that it could burn money to boost returns for its investors.
Surely this largesse would trickle down to its rank-and-file employees, right?
Not exactly.
On Wednesday, Carrier, the air conditioner manufacturing wing of United Technologies, told workers at its Indianapolis plant that it would be outsourcing their jobs to Monterrey, Mexico.
"Throughout the transition, we must remain committed to manufacturing the same high-quality products," an executive can be heard insisting in a video of the announcement.
"Yeah, fuck you!" a member of the crowd responds.
"Please quiet down," the official says. "This was an extremely difficult decision."
"Was it?!"
Watch the reaction in the video below.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-people-really-support-trump-and-sanders_us_56be3c46e4b0b40245c6a159
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)This is so cruel. Those workers have no future.
"Free" trade is not working for America. Let's end our current agreements. We cannot afford them. Maybe the top 1% can afford this trade policy, but American families cannot.