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EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:21 AM Feb 2016

Video Shows Exact Moment 1,400 Employees Learn They Are Losing Their Jobs to Mexico

Although the decision to inform a workforce of 1,400 employees that they’ll soon be losing their jobs to Mexico is an admirable one from the standpoint of candor, it hardly makes for a good recipe for workplace morale.

A cell phone video taken at Carrier Air Conditioner in Indianapolis shows the exact moment that the plant and union workers were told that the company had decided to shift production south of the border. “The best way to stay competitive and protect the business for longterm is to move production from our facility in Indianapolis to Monterrey, Mexico,” says the company representative at the microphone.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/video-shows-exact-moment-1400-employees-learn-they-are-losing-their-jobs-to-mexico/

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Video Shows Exact Moment 1,400 Employees Learn They Are Losing Their Jobs to Mexico (Original Post) EV_Ares Feb 2016 OP
"During the transition we must maintain the same quality" Renew Deal Feb 2016 #1
I bet every white person there aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #2
Quick question gladium et scutum Feb 2016 #3
It would not have changed at all. aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #4
So what you are saying is gladium et scutum Feb 2016 #5
You lost me??? aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #6
In post #4 gladium et scutum Feb 2016 #7
Yes. However the reason why their votes for Democrats would have failed them aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #8
Its called Democracy gladium et scutum Feb 2016 #11
Indiana is a Republican state. The majority of the citizens of Indiana vote JDPriestly Feb 2016 #13
That is heartbreaking. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #9
Watch Corporate America Turn A Room Full Of Workers Into Bernie Sanders And Donald Trump Supporters EV_Ares Feb 2016 #10
It is just wrong. And let's don't make things worse by agreeing to the TPP. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #12

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
2. I bet every white person there
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

Voted GOP. Conservatives and Democrats that had to move to the right to gain there votes are the people responsible. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

Half the people in that room blame immigration on their job loss. A quarter of them spent the last 10 years voting based on gay marriage and the bible. I'm sure many of them think they would be in Harvard were it not for the evils of affirmative action.

I'm tired of white working class votes driving the country off a cliff.

Good riddance! Maybe someday they will learn.

gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
3. Quick question
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

Lets say, all of those white folks had voted straight Democratic tickets for the last 10 years. Exactly how would that have changed the circumstances they are in now?

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
4. It would not have changed at all.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:50 PM
Feb 2016

Here is why.

The democrats have been forced to nominate (locally and nationally) politicians to the right in order to win enough support from voters in a room like this to get elected. This is how we ended up with democratic presidents like Bill Clinton who instituted these trade deals. The folks in that room won't vote for a Jerry Brown in 1992. Or a Denis Kucinich in 2008. Or a Bernie Sanders in 2016.

So thanks to these voters and their warped sense of the world, they have actually corrupted 2 political parties.


Nancy Pelosi would be the most despised person in that room if she were there. I would bet my bottom dollar support for Ted Cruz or Indiana Governor Mike Pence is through the roof!

Like I said, to some degree, the white working class is getting what they are owed.


'What's the matter with Kansas" applies to a lot of places. That manufacturing warehouse included.

gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
5. So what you are saying is
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:25 PM
Feb 2016

that because they did not vote for the candidates that you support, they deserve to loose their jobs.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
6. You lost me???
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:28 PM
Feb 2016

What I am saying is that they lost their jobs because of the candidates THEY likely supported.


gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
7. In post #4
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016

you stated "it would not have changed at all" in response to my question about what would happen if they had voted for Democrats
In the case of these folks, they could have voted solidly Democratic for the last decade and it would not have changed a thing. They would have still lost their jobs.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
8. Yes. However the reason why their votes for Democrats would have failed them
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

is because the Democratic party has been forced to nominate candidates way to far to the right in order to appeal to them.

The effort to appeal to white working class voters has in a way taken down both parties. This is why NAFTA was instituted by a Democrat. The Democratic party had to nominate a conservative in order to win their votes. Thus, Democrats are largely no better than Republicans.


I hope that is clear.

gladium et scutum

(808 posts)
11. Its called Democracy
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

The majority gets to decide. Sometimes it is messy and not always the way we would like it to be. But the folks that cast the votes get to make the decisions. Sorry that your candidates of choice have not won in the past, they lost because a majority of voters decided that they preferred another candidates. That is how it works. You have attacked those folks that worked for Carrier A/C
as possibly voting for candidates other than what you would have preferred. You do not know how they voted. You have made a very broad brushed generalization that because they were white, the some how automatically voted for republicans. And therefore they should lose their jobs. To hell with their families, it simply because they "may" have voted in a manner that you did not approve of. An interesting point of view on a Progressive web site. JMO

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. Indiana is a Republican state. The majority of the citizens of Indiana vote
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:54 AM
Feb 2016

Republican a lot, probably most, of the time.

We Americans need to vote for Bernie Sanders. He is the politician most likely to refuse to sign the TPP and to renegotiate other trade agreements to protect American jobs and fair trade not "free" trade.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
10. Watch Corporate America Turn A Room Full Of Workers Into Bernie Sanders And Donald Trump Supporters
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:20 PM
Feb 2016

The past few years have been very good for United Technologies. The contractor does billions of dollars a year in business with the federal government. CEO Gregory Hayes pulled down nearly $10 million in 2014, and over $20 million the year before. On Thursday, the company reported $7.6 billion in profits, up from $6.2 billion the year before, and $5.7 billion the year before that. In October, United Technologies even expanded its stock buyback program to $12 billion. By spending the company's own money on it' stock, it elevates the value of its share prices. It was so flush with cash that it could burn money to boost returns for its investors.

Surely this largesse would trickle down to its rank-and-file employees, right?

Not exactly.

On Wednesday, Carrier, the air conditioner manufacturing wing of United Technologies, told workers at its Indianapolis plant that it would be outsourcing their jobs to Monterrey, Mexico.

"Throughout the transition, we must remain committed to manufacturing the same high-quality products," an executive can be heard insisting in a video of the announcement.

"Yeah, fuck you!" a member of the crowd responds.

"Please quiet down," the official says. "This was an extremely difficult decision."

"Was it?!"

Watch the reaction in the video below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-people-really-support-trump-and-sanders_us_56be3c46e4b0b40245c6a159

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. It is just wrong. And let's don't make things worse by agreeing to the TPP.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:51 AM
Feb 2016

This is so cruel. Those workers have no future.

"Free" trade is not working for America. Let's end our current agreements. We cannot afford them. Maybe the top 1% can afford this trade policy, but American families cannot.

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