SANDERS INVITED TO VATICAN APRIL 15!!! WILL ADDRESS IDOLOTRY OF MONEY

[floppyboo]

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[mountain grammy]

1. Yes, we desperately need morality in the world's economy..Desperately!

and the Pope, agree with him or not, believes this too. And he wants to talk to our candidate about it!

Sorry folks, this is YUUUUUGE!!!!

[JimDandy]

119. I'm not religious and don't believe in 'signs' but that birdie was impressive.

Economic immorality is killing our global societies. If a birdie, or an invitation from the Pope, or whatever else helps others focus on that fact, I'll give a nod to them.

[rhett o rick]

129. I am not religious either, but I accept signs from Mother Nature. nm

[BlancheSplanchnik]

172. ^

[JimDandy]

176. I'll heartily accept that view of the event! n/t

[hopemountain]

191. yes! and she will not be fooled!

there is wisdom in the collective conscience of all living things and the forces of the directions according to my elders.

[billhicks76]

128. His Best Ad Yet...Tears

Morality.
http://usadailypolitics.com/new-bernie-sanders-ad-is-bringing-people-to-tears-and-will-have-you-feeling-the-bern-video/

[840high]

132. Thank you.

[2banon]

136. Awesome! Thanks just posted to my fb. n/t

[DianaForRussFeingold]

169. Thank You!

. Bernie Sanders is so inspirational..
Beautifully done!

[Betty Karlson]

194. And that is the honest truth:

Clinton shows where the economy will go without morality - as usual, it's the wrong direction.

[notadmblnd]

2. Boy, this is really gonna give HRC and her minions an inferiority complex

They already ridicule Sanders for his decency and make fun of him for his principles- this is really going to cause heads to explode.

Just watch.

[hereforthevoting]

4. Especially since they seek the very expertise Hillary tried to denigrate this week.

Right, call Bernie of all people on not knowing his stuff when you basically say (with no legit plans to do it) that you will end racism and misogyny.

[notadmblnd]

5. They must have called a morning meeting to discuss how to counter this

or demean it with out sounding too jealous. Cause you know, the Pope ain't never gonna call on Clinton for any discussions on morality.

[EdwardBernays]

47. I believe their plan

was to have Bill insult black social justice activists...

Oh wait.

[magical thyme]

69. especially since the Pope turned down their invite

to the Clinton Foundation gala

[peacebird]

103. Yes, that's gonna leave a mark... Elton John did as well, & they were trying to bribe him there with

an award for his work for aids

[2banon]

140. Really??? Learning something new everyday. Good On Elton John!

[Enthusiast]

157. Yuuge Plus One!

[2banon]

171. Thanks for the Memories! So Appropo!

[2banon]

137. Is that right?! Is this recently?

I.N.t.E.R.E.S.T.I.N.G.

[magical thyme]

150. last September, also Elton John and Janet Yellen

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/clinton-foundation-snubbed-pope-elton-john-janet-yellen-214091

And Elton was supposed to receive an award

"Elton John was invited to receive an award for his efforts ..."

[AlbertCat]

68. They're already posting stuff like this

a 1990-something article from an author who died in 2009... and carefully edited to leave out the part in bold:

"Speaking directly from his Marxist bible (Karl, not Groucho), Ol' Bernardo couldn't conceal the contempt he held for all those well-dressed do-gooders."


Oooooh.... that sounds like level headed reporting, don't it? No wonder they concealed the red baiting stuff!




From this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141406989

[notadmblnd]

178. I saw that, but I'm not one to say-

I told ya so.

Aren't they something though? One can set a clock by them. So damn predictable.

[notadmblnd]

186. I kinda feel sorry for them- No really, I do.

nt

[Fritz Walter]

78. Actually, she was considered...

...but Pope Francis doesn't appreciate it when people shake their fingers in his face.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

177. Some of them are PROUD to have the support of Wall Street.

[elljay]

180. And I don't mind that

If that is what a person truly believes, then I respect their choice though disagree with it. What really gets me is when they refuse to own it. Hillary trends conservative on defense and military, finance and trade issues. This is simple fact, not up for debate. They need to stop denying it or trying to tell us she is progressive on these issues; just be honest and admit that they agree. Honesty is always best.

[Major Hogwash]

182. Well, they're not going to confess now!

Maybe we should get out the soft cushions with which we poke a person, or, *gasp*, bring out the comfy chair!

[Geronimoe]

3. Vatican

Feels the Bern.

[senz]

108. Beautiful!

So true.

[RKP5637]

6. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[antigop]

7. Was Hillary invited? nt

[FlatBaroque]

8. They opted not to pay the $250,000 minimum /

[Divernan]

12. Thread winner!

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. Hehe.

[Kelvin Mace]

14. You owe me a keyboard

[Divernan]

17. Now Pope is on Hill's revenge list.

[MisterP]

113. she's gonna go all Dawkins now: "Catholics did 9-11!"

[Jester Messiah]

19. Daaaaaang.

Sick bern!

[Plucketeer]

41. +1K! nt

[sarge43]

45. Rim shot

[colorado_ufo]

76. Tish-BOOM!

[840high]

133. Bam Booom!

[Duncan Grant]

170. ^^^

[SamKnause]

11. September 2015, The Clinton Foundation invited the Pope and Elton John to New York.

They were invited to the glitzy CGI gathering in New York.

Both declined.

List of names who declined;

The Pope
Elton John
Mark Zuckerberg
Bill DeBlasio
President Obama
Janet Yellen
Thomas Piketty
David Cameron
Angela Merkel

Source: The Hill

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/255058-elton-john-pope-francis-turned-down-clinton-foundation-invites

[HillareeeHillaraah]

18. Source?

Link? Anything more than words strung together?

And upthread, You folks honestly believe the Pope needs Bernie Sanders' advice?

Do you have ANY idea how tone deaf that sounds to Catholics?

Whatev, She'll win NY no matter how much hyperbole his camp tosses out.

eom

[alcina]

28. Here's a link that might be helpful

http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/Bitter-Taste-in-Mouth.html

You're welcome.

[HillareeeHillaraah]

34. Funny and expected

You've earned your fee for that one.

[Android3.14]

85. Just some advice

We've all had our backside handed back on a rhetorical platter in the past, so don't feel too bad. But the lesson here is to be an informed swimmer and know how to use the repellent before jumping into the shark tank.

[HillareeeHillaraah]

86. Thanks for the advice

It was both useful and condescending...simultaneously. Good on you!

And I'll take your words to heart.

Thanks much.

[KPN]

35. +1000

[KPN]

33. Hahahahaha!

Too much!

A little rattled this morning are we?

[HillareeeHillaraah]

43. Not at all

I'm good at Math.

Have a pleasant day battling against the Democratic Party, you know the party your candidate wants to be elected de facto leader of?

Good luck with that! Oh wait, I know...he's winning...in blogs across America, he's winning.

Carry on ~

[roguevalley]

50. ha ha. you're funny! projection, it must help you deal with reality.

[HillareeeHillaraah]

58. The only projection I read here is from camp Bernie with their winning delegate formula

Of course, if you need a miracle, the Pope's the guy to see about that so I guess...it's some kind of a plan. So you do have that going.

[karynnj]

70. Wow, this is a reworking of an OLD math joke that I saw decades ago

It's more common variation was what a math professor at IU referred to as proof by intimidation. That was where students would start on both ends of an equality they were assigned to prove and then - when they could not legitimately connect them, just put:

"Therefore, " between the two pieces - hoping that for some reason they didn't get that the two pieces really did come together.

He strongly suggested that we NEVER submit something like that on a test ... and he would gave absolutely no credit for the meanderings.

[lostnfound]

74. Only fools pray for votes or cash. Wisemen seek insight

And inspiration.
I'm sure he sees it as an honor to be invited, and an opportunity to see the world from a different view.
It's a ripple in the water or a butterfly effect. Whether or not he wins the nomination, Bernie has the attention of large numbers of people who want a more just economy. What should he do with that?

Cynicism doesn't become any of us.

[snagglepuss]

88. Well said! nt

[Utopian Leftist]

121. This!

Bernie is deeply intelligent, he understands the value of things like symbolism and reflection.

If a birdie landed on Hilly's podium, I'd be worried for its safety (**cough** roadkill **cough**).

[Nitram]

130. That's right Utopian. Hillary eats little birdies for breakfast.

And she don't know from symbolism and reflection. Dumb as a post and totally uneducated. Go Bernie!

[RiverNoord]

144. Good for you. Everybody should be good at something.

I'm pretty good at perceiving the biases and agendas underlying BS.

Your agenda is to sell the position that the current leadership of the Democratic National Committee, as well as the composition of the present members of the Democratic Party who hold elected office at the national level, are the Democratic Party.

This would, therefore, mean that any difference of opinion a person may have with the positions of any of these parties, particularly with respect to their preferred candidates for the office of the President of the United States, would really mean that a person who takes action based on this difference of opinion is acting against the Democratic Party.

This is a severely authoritarian perspective on the nature of the Democratic Party and its role in the American political process. If it became generally accepted, it would mean that the only appropriate parties in Party decision-making and the establishment of agendas would be those who already are in positions of power and influence at the national level of the Party.

One of the consequences of the widespread adoption of this perspective would be an abrupt end to the value of the Democratic Party as a mechanism for representative democracy. It's completely predictable because it's a frequent occurrence in history. A power structure that came to power via popular support becomes insulated, eventually acts against the entire system by which it came to power (because if people were able to put them in power, they could do the same thing to someone else and replace them), and cares only about its hold on power and its benefits.

The Democratic Party has existed, in some form, almost as long as the United States itself. It has undergone many major changes over the years, and it will undergo more as American civilization evolves and social and structural changes mandate changes. It is no longer the public face of severe racism and segregation in the South, for example, that it was from the 'Reconstruction' era to the the mid 1960s.

If you are a supporter of a political party and challenge the current holders of power in a political party because of their positions, you aren't 'battling' against the party, you're advocating for change within it. This is a necessary function of a political party which operates in the context of representative democracy. Sometimes the people at the top are the wrong people at a particular time, and must be challenged. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes the people advocating for change are wrong. But that's how things go. If you don't like it, then maybe representative democracy just isn't your thing.

[dreamnightwind]

197. Well done! - eom

[RiverNoord]

202. Thank you :-)

This could be a forum where people actually take the time to reason some stuff out, at least every now and then.

It's a lot more work (big time... that post certainly was - whew...) than cheerleading for your favorite positions (or candidates...) or taking cheap shots at others'. But if all we do is pick sides, throw shit at the others and see what sticks, we're just a bunch of 10-year-olds at recess.

Since that's a pretty apt description of the Republican nomination process this year (except that even the worst 10-year-olds on the playground rarely sink so low), I figure maybe we might be able to do a bit better. Probably. OK, maybe, say, once a month. Well, a guy can dream .

[dreamnightwind]

203. It would be nice

When it isn't primary season there is less vitriol. But there's generally a very real and acrimonious split between the populist side and the corporatist side, with seemingly little movement across those lines (people's opinions are dug in).

Long posts like yours tend to get read less, just because of info overload and time, but it's hard to be substantive in shorter posts.

[roguevalley]

48. what a,ridiculous reply. catholics will love this and the pope invited HIM.

Jealous much?

[HillareeeHillaraah]

52. Yes very!

How astute of you!

Pithy zinger there ! My feelings are hurt now

Done playing here.

Oh, and MATH!!!

[pangaia]

56. You act like a three year old. Grow up.

[HillareeeHillaraah]

59. Ouch! Stop that....

You folks don't debate much any more....just cheer each other on, rip down the Democratic Party and scold people.

Shame, jousting can be fun.

I'll leave you all be now. You can all have the last word. Ta.

[KPN]

65. Lol.

As someone already said up thread, classic projection.

But we're ready. Go ahead. Start the debate. Say something of substance that is debate worthy. We are waiting. Haven't heard anything like that from you this morning yet, but go ahead.

[FlatBaroque]

115. Hillarahhahhahhahhahhah

[Maedhros]

138. I'm laughing at the 'superior' intellect.

/ignore list.

[deacon_sephiroth]

142. last word? don't mind if I do

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[roguevalley]

57. pathetic. have a cookie, child

[magical thyme]

152. Math says Bernie is 211 points behind in pledged delegates

Math says that he knocked ~30% off Hill's 300+ point lead in the recent primaries & caucuses.

Math says that Hill needs to win ~62 % of all remaining delegates in the upcoming primaries to lock in the nomination via pledged delegates. That's after having only won 57% of them in the 1st half of the primaries, which were her stronger states.

Math + upcoming states + momentum says that Bernie can stop her from locking in the nomination which takes it to the convention floor.

And life says *anything* can happen between now and the convention. Hill's not likely to actually be indicted, but nothing says one or another of her closest aides won't be. Hill's not likely to suffer a pulmonary embolism, but her medical history says it's possible. Or, here's a really wild and crazy, off-the-wall impossible idea, what if the Pope were to invite Bernie to the Vatican for a confer....oh, wait a minute...

[revbones]

60. Awwww. Sour grapes?

Sour grapes cuz Hillary isn't moral enough to be invited by the Vatican and the Pope?

Yeah, I'm sure catholics who listen to the Pope are just going to be up in arms and not think "Hey, if the Pope says Bernie is the guy..."

Or is all this because you are having to rethink it too now?

[HillareeeHillaraah]

63. If I say you're right and concede the point

Do your posting fees go up?

Because I'm all about higher wages for working folks.

[revbones]

66. So, someone with that username is accusing me of being a sockpuppet? Nice.

Why not just change it to HillaryForPresident2016_IWorkForTheCampaign_AccountNumber216?

So how's it feel to have your candidate's opponent validated by the freaking Pope? Just curious...

[HillareeeHillaraah]

73. How does it feel?

Pretty damn good. He'll enjoy the experience. #BeenThereDoneThat

[snagglepuss]

81. Way different time. Way different Pope.. nt

[warrprayer]

164. got that right n/t

[floppyboo]

165. That pic was from when? JP11 died in 2005 - so, not a candidate. or SOS n/t

[warrprayer]

174. yup

JP2 was beloved, but also right wing and reactionary.

[floppyboo]

185. Opus Dei - Ratz Natz and JP2 - clingons

Both owned.
And they thought bringing in a SA with some ties in the past to the establishment would secure that corner of the world.
Ha Ha Ha!

btw- I put a big bet on Francis becoming Pope. I'm also betting on Bernie!

I don't loose often.

[warrprayer]

187. pretty accurate

:But I've said too much.

[senz]

123. Bill was a POTUS or past-POTUS. Bernie is a mere candidate.

And the Pope invited him.

I think you need to feel your way through your discomfort. There may be something in this you need to acknowledge to yourself.

[notadmblnd]

146. .......

[magical thyme]

151. You may wnt to take that up with

Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, who initiated the invitation.

"You folks honestly believe the Pope needs Bernie Sanders' advice..."

[thereismore]

32. The Clinton Foundation is really aiming to be the world's super-government. nt

[SamKnause]

44. They are definitely aiming for something.

What ever their goal, it will not be good for this country or the world.

[senz]

116. Thank you, I hadn't known about this.

It is reassuring to know that people with power and influence can see through the charade. Some of these people may have had other reasons for declining, but it suggests to me that at least a few of them share even a bit of our awareness of who the Clintons are and what they do.

It is important that people keep their eyes open. This is a crucial time.

[SamKnause]

120. You are most welcome.

[Divernan]

16. No - Pope is not interested in funding regime change via Clinton Foundation

[beerandjesus]

9. "The idolatry of money"

BOY, do I wish I would hear those words out of the mouths of evangelicals!

[stellanoir]

21. That quotation actually moved me ~

to tears of joy.

Have been deeply saddened by the manner in which the sickness of "affluenza" or "affluenza" envy has driven a near celebration of unconscionable behaviors & blatant usury in our culture.

An injection of basic morality is certainly long overdue.

May reverence replace myopically exploitive self interest much sooner than later.

[KPN]

42. "the sickness of "affluenza" or "affluenza" envy has driven ...

a near celebration of unconscionable behaviors & blatant usury in our culture."

Hear Hear!

[snagglepuss]

84. +1

[floppyboo]

10. I hope it's televised!

Might even out the media coverage! My cynical side sees media spinners a la 'Wag the Dog' creating a distraction... Thank goodness for the internet!

[FailureToCommunicate]

15. Terrific clip! The MSNBC folks looked dumbstruck by Sander's sincerity.

[kadaholo]

20. Pope Francis and Bernie have much in common!

Pope Francis and Bernie have much in common! This will be a meeting of like minds.

Although these quotes come from Pope Francis, they very well could have been attributed to Bernie Sanders.

Human rights are not only violated by terrorism, repression or assassination, but also by unfair economic structures that creates huge inequalities.

We must restore hope to young people, help the old, be open to the future, spread love. Be poor among the poor. We need to include the excluded and preach peace.

This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas. The world is crisscrossed by roads that come closer together and move apart, but the important thing is that they lead towards the Good.

Climate change is a problem which can no longer be left to our future generation.

GO BERNIE! (with your love, integrity and humility)

[lostnfound]

75. GO BERNIE! (with your love, integrity and humility)

It deserved repeating.
👍😎✌️✌✌

[dreamnightwind]

198. If you're new here, welcome to DU!

And thanks for that wonderful post.

[kadaholo]

201. Thanks, Dreamnightwind!

Thanks, Dreamnightwind!

[Skwmom]

22. Why April 15th?

A day after the debate and four days until the NY primary among other things...

[FailureToCommunicate]

25. Well, the Pope is probably pretty booked also. And Jane does Bernie's taxes...

Seems like okay timing to have some good press right before the NY primary. No?

[roguevalley]

51. the Vatican plans a year in advance. they just believe sanders is real unlike someone else

[jwirr]

77. Tax day - a time to do what my father always did - tell us

kids what our taxes were being used for: schools, buses, roads. But he never forgot that it was being used for the poor and in fact the good of all.

Bernie and the Pope do not belong to the prosperity religions. They speak for the good of all when it comes to economics.

I am very happy that this is going to happen.

[magical thyme]

154. it's an annual conference at the Vatican, planned well in advance.

They probably weren't thinking about the NY primary at the time they starting setting it up

[Divernan]

23. This is UNPRECEDENTED! Really, really big news.

And the one day conference is 4 days before the New York election!

WASHINGTON, April 8 (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders announced on Friday he had accepted an invitation to the Vatican, saying his views on fighting income equality were similar to those of Pope Francis.

“I am a big, big fan of the pope,” Sanders said in an interview on MSNBC. “He’s trying to inject this sense of morality into how we do economics ... and we need that absolutely desperately.”

The Sanders campaign said in a statement that he would attend a conference on social, economic and environmental issues during the April 15 visit. Sanders, who has made fighting poverty a central issue of his campaign, said he would talk about how to create a moral economy during his visit.

The visit will come four days before the primary election in delegate-rich New York, a state that both Sanders and his rival Democrat Hillary Clinton are viewing as home turf and hoping to win.

The announcement of Sanders’ trip came as the pope called for a church that was less strict and more compassionate toward “imperfect” Catholics. Sanders said he admires the pope for talking about the “worship of money, the greed that’s out there.” “There are people who think that Bernie Sanders is radical,” Sanders said on MSNBC. “Read what the pope is writing.”.

[Helen Borg]

29. Will the network cover it?

[Divernan]

38. It will get MASSIVE international coverage, for sure.

[Helen Borg]

61. I wonder how they will manage to spin that negatively!!

It's a tough call though... Perhaps Bernie should rather stay in New York and campaign on that day. Is he going for sure?

[werknotgoin2takeit]

106. MSNBC has,the smear covered

Andrea Mitchell is saying he invited himself. God I hate them all. There isn't a toilet big enough to flush all these turds.

[magical thyme]

156. not a tough call. yes, he's going. it's a great honor

and is giving him more publicity than a couple days of rallies. He can have surrogates at the rallies -- people will understand him accepting the Vatican's invite.

As far as how to spin negatively, Bloomberg issued a report claiming that a Vatican official (President Archer of the academy's social service dept) said he initiated the invite, lobbied to get it, was trying to turn it into a political event, yadayadayada. Rest of MSM ran with the smear.

Her boss just came out and debunked Bloomberg's report, saying that he (The Monsiegnor) initiated the invite and that Archer concurred.

The campaign emailed a copy of their invite to Reuters -- it had the Monseignor's and Archer's names on it.

[Mira]

24. I'm speechless

floored
ecstatic

[Helen Borg]

26. Why not Trump???

[jberryhill]

27. Why not?

It's not as if Jesus was known for meeting with the most popular people.

[floppyboo]

30. I just HAVE to repost this Super Bernie video!!! this is not momentum, this is a tsunami!

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[BigBearJohn]

71. Blubbering all over my keyboard. Thanks!!

[Duval]

104. Thanks for the video! It was great! nt

[2banon]

145. I love the new face put to Uncle Sam.. It'll be "Uncle Sanders"

from this point on!

[thereismore]

31. Hillary will get invited by Netenyahu's personal rabbi. Just wait. nt

[Divernan]

36. Send Chelsea on a pilgrimage to Mother Teresa's gravesite?

I'm series!!!! Remember you heard it here first!

[thereismore]

39. Better yet, make Hillary appear to pilgrims in Guadelupe. nt

[Divernan]

49. She could take a detour from her Mexico City fundraiser!

Her face will be seen to appear on an extra large fajita!

[roguevalley]

53. you are my new hero, thereismore

[thereismore]

125. Aww gee

[FlatBaroque]

37. I must have some sort of disorder

where I get teary eyed every time I hear Bernie speak about inequality.

[floppyboo]

46. see video at my post #30

You're not alone FlatBaroque. I cried when I watched it yesterday, cried again today! This is a WORLD REVOLUTION!!!

[Smarmie Doofus]

40. Hey.... NO FAIR !!!!! He didn't invite *Clinton* !!??!!#@#!!#$#@!@#@.

Or TrumpCruzKasich ?

I wonder why.

Never mind. They don't get it.

They'll NEVER get it.

[blm]

54. What an immense honor.

.

[KoKo]

55. Thanks for the Video... well worth the short watch..

[enid602]

62. finally

Finally! A politician that Saint Bernie can work with!!!

[Thespian2]

64. Yuuuuge K & R!!!

[leftofcool]

67. Will he be taking his tax returns to show how much he gave to charities?

[Divernan]

72. Weak/bitter sauce from HRC camp, as expected.

Maybe you better hold off on posting on this topic until you get the official campaign spin on it.

[Mother Of Four]

118. You should really be ashamed of that post n/t

[bvar22]

155. Here is a link that will be useful to you.

http://www.healthgrades.com/symptoms/bitter-taste-in-mouth

(Thanks, Alcina)

[leftcoastmountains]

79. I'm not religious but this is good for Bernie

thus good for us! Go Bernie Go!!!!

[flamingdem]

80. Blessings to Bernie

and have a great time with the hipster pope!

[zentrum]

82. Day after NY debate I think.

It's a big deal, even though the Pope "doesn't endorse" anyone.

It's the Oligarchy, stupid.

[snagglepuss]

83. A BIRD ON GOOD FRIDAY AND NOW THE POPE!

The Force is with the Bern.

[libodem]

87. Oh, man. oh, man

Must be hard to be humble when your buttons are ready to burst.

I love this Pope!

[Skink]

89. A Papal endorsement

[Baobab]

90. Pope Francis is really quite a good Pope, and I think Bernie should go.

He's by far the best Pope I can remember in my lifetime.

Reminds us what Christianity is supposed to be, as opposed to what its often portrayed as.

[Lodestar]

91. Wooohooooo! The little bird knew!!

Bernie has devoted his whole life to the morality of economic and government policy
so of course he should be at this conference!

<a href=".html" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt=" photo Bernie-Sanders-Saint-Like-Pope 2_zpsrsoq9uot.png"/></a>

[dcbuckeye]

92. He was not invited by the Pope

He invited himself, according to Bloomberg.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-08/vatican-academy-criticizes-sanders-s-monumental-discourtesy

[floppyboo]

93. He reached out to the Vatican. Why didn't Hillary? Maybe she didn't know about the conference?

Nice try. Or maybe she did? And His Holiness rejected her again?

And I'm trying to be nice here. Do you have primary sources of the Sanders/Pope exchange? Were there bribes involved? How, exactly, did Bernie from Vermont bend the Pope's ear?

Desperate!

[DownriverDem]

96. Hello?

Maybe you are about playing the tit for tat game, but the rest of us are concentrating on real issues.

[snagglepuss]

99. What is more real than poverty and the idolatry of money that goes unabated in society?

[floppyboo]

100. so what issue are you concentrating on here? You're responding to ^this^

[frylock]

109. Yeah, we've been reading about your "real issues" all week.

Tax returns and the unmitigated gall that Bernie showed by daring to question Mrs. Clinton's qualifications. Real issues.

[snagglepuss]

97. First question. How does Bloomberg know this? Second question. Why would it matter given that

the the Pope clearly has no problem turning down requests such as turning down the invitation extended to him by the Clinton Foundation. I have a feeling that this is a spin from one of the American arch-bishops to assuage anger from the Hillary camp.

[Lodestar]

101. Bernie has devoted his whole life to the subjects covered at this conference

and it makes total sense that he would want to be there and that he would
receive an invitation.

[dr60omg]

139. ACTUALLY NOT THE VATICAN DEBUNKED THIS

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/8/1512646/-Bloomberg-News-Vatican-officials-DENY-Archer-account-state-they-issued-invitation-to-Bernie

[Old Codger]

148. He was

Invited, before you lie you should check facts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511682365

But the invitation was actually made by Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the pontifical academy, an autonomous institution that receives some funding from the Holy See but is not officially part of it.

In a March 30 letter inviting Sanders to the event, Sánchez Sorondo wrote, "On behalf of the President, Professor Margaret Archer, the Organizers, and as Chancellor, I am very happy to invite you to attend the meeting on 'Centesimus Annus: 25 Years Later.' The meeting, which is humanitarian in its objects, will be held at the Casina Pio IV, the headquarters of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, from 15 to 16 April 2016."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-vatican-conference-221708#ixzz45GT3eAE5
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[magical thyme]

158. that's been Debunked. Monsignor Marcelo Sanches Sorondo (Archer's boss) invited him

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

[Petrushka]

179. Untrue . . . according to papal official who DID invite him --->

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[snagglepuss]

94. Let's not miss the powerful message the Pope is conveying by inviting an agnostic.

The Pope is saying that His faith is not exclusionary and that actions speak louder than pious words worn on sleeves.

[SunSeeker]

184. The Pope did not invite him. The Pope won't even be in town.

The Sanders campaign made the announcement on Friday as the Vermont senator made the rounds on the morning television news shows. Mr. Sanders, a Democratic presidential candidate, said he would take a break from campaigning in New York, just days before the April 19 primary there, to attend a conference hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, a scholarly association in Vatican City that was established by Pope John Paul II in 1994.

Mr. Sanders did not initially correct interviewers who suggested that he would meet with the pope, but he later clarified that he had not confirmed whether the two men would actually meet.

Further confusion about the trip bubbled up on Friday afternoon when the Vatican press office made clear that it had not issued the invitation, but that it had come from the academy. It said that there was no indication that Mr. Sanders would meet with Francis.

Meanwhile, Margaret Archer, the academy’s president, told Bloomberg News that Mr. Sanders had actively solicited the invitation for political purposes.

“Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Ms. Archer said. “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote, but this is not the Catholic vote, and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will.”

But hours later, Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, a senior papal official and the academy’s chancellor, denied that Mr. Sanders had invited himself to the event. He told Reuters that it was his idea to invite the senator.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/08/bernie-sanders-accepts-pope-franciss-invitation-to-travel-to-the-vatican/

In fact, Pope Francis will be in Greece April 14-15.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X227F

[DownriverDem]

95. Wrong!

It turns out Bernie was the one to invite himself. Don't let facts get in your way.

[snagglepuss]

98. No one can invite themselves to the Vatican. If you know otherwise please tell us how its done.

[frylock]

110. Maybe he hunted the Pope down and crashed his meeting like Hillary did with the Chinese.

[floppyboo]

107. can you explain why it would be uncommon or ungainly for 2 like minded

people to reach out to each other? We see it all the time with Hillary.

[progressoid]

147. You should probably tell the Vatican that.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[magical thyme]

153. Wrong. that's been debunked by Archer's boss.

Hope Archer likes crow, cause she's eating some now. Still waiting on Bloomberg's retraction, lol.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

[Petrushka]

181. Senior papal official who invited Sanders says otherwise --->

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[imagine2015]

102. K & R

[senz]

105. I've been hoping these two would get together. The time is ripe.

They each carry a consciousness we've nearly lost in our culture, a righteous spirit of economic fairness and basic human kindness.

These two honest, courageous individuals are not afraid to speak the truth at a time when we desperately need to hear it..

[MisterP]

167. and as a Christian Catholic humanism's goal is outside humanity, keeping it from settling

from seeing itself as its own goal

[chknltl]

111. It will be huge news throughout the world, here in the U.S. ........

.....we will have to catch the details on The Thom Hartmann Program.

[joanbarnes]

114. Even lapsed Catholics like myself LOVE our Pope! Catholics, get behind BERNIE.

I like to say Not your Daddy's Pope. In November we could say not your Daddy's President.

[GardeningGal]

117. Wow! I'm surprised but pleased.

I'm a reformed Catholic but I do like Pope Francis. This is a big deal. I wonder if the media will carry it.

[Cheap_Trick]

122. According to the $hills

Bernie "invited himself" to the Vatican.

They're just butthurt because $hillary didn't get invited too.

[deacon_sephiroth]

124. oh haven't you heard?

he apparently reached out to them first....

oh no then it says PUSHED for it,

oh then LOBBIED.

and he's scheduled to speak.

So the narrative is..... that BERNIE FREAKING SANDERS somehow has bullied his way into the Vatican event, and also muscled his way into a speaking spot. My ass.

Or it is more likely that the same conservative types that snuck Kim Davis into his holiness' presence are rearing their ugly heads again?

That's all I had to say on it. I'll be justifying that ridiculous trite with not on more moment of attention of thought.

Also Hilary would have shown up but they can't afford her! BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

[thereismore]

126. It just amplifies what I like to say: A week in politics is a lifetime! What a stunning announcement

[liberal N proud]

127. And to bring the lifetime full circle...

Vatican says Bernie reached out to them to obtain the invite and it sounds like they are not happy with him playing politics with this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110794988

oops

[deacon_sephiroth]

134. still pushing that RW BS? oops n/t

[deacon_sephiroth]

141. OOPS!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

get that weak sauce out of my house.

[bvar22]

159. Naturally, this lie was posted to the Hillary Group and has gotten 25 Recs.

http://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety/symptoms/bad-taste-in-mouth-anxiety.shtml

[liberal N proud]

163. I guess that group is not allowed to receive 25 times

Our bad!

[magical thyme]

160. Oops. It's been debunked. See multiple posts above. The Vatican invited Bernie

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

Papal official denies report Sanders invited himself to Vatican

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

[2banon]

131. awesome!

that'll be an interesting conversation on the international stage. Good on the Pope for making the invitation, and good on Bernie for graciously accepting.

Can't wait to hear about that meeting. So I missed when this is to take place.. anyone have that?

[ErikJ]

135. Lol. I didnt need no stinkin invite

I just went. No huge deal.

[deacon_sephiroth]

143. wrong in every way

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[janlea]

149. So.......

So Presidential, don't you think? I'm in tears. Bernie all the way!!!!!!

[johnp3907]

161. .

[Uncle Joe]

162. That was excellent.

Thanks for the thread, floppyboo.

[zwyziec]

166. FALSE HEADLINE.......SANDERS NOT INVITED "BY POPE!"

Just wishful thinking? Or manipulation of the media? Or a flat ass out lie?

[floppyboo]

168. No - neither lie or manipulation - just a mistake

for you, dear heart, I will edit

[ChiciB1]

173. Fantastic! This Is Such A POSITIVE Message AND A Message

that OUR LEADERS should listen to. But sadly, they only see $$$$$ and kneel down to worship there mighty dollar!

WHEN does anyone think that those who now CONTROL MSM and so much more are going to WAKE UP to what "we the people" WANT and NEED!

I was once a Catholic, but left the church a long time ago. Never joined another one either, but talk about an ENDORSEMENT... this is YUUUUUUUGGGGGGE!

The Whole World IS Really Watching! THEY see it, other countries see it BUT this country which was once known as a Shining Beacon of Democracy simply WON'T see it!

WE THE PEOPLE must help get Bernie elected, but then we MUST HELP this man bring back Our Democracy! He can't do it alone and he's told us this from DAY ONE. He will face a barrage of NEGATIVITY and it's not going to be easy, but "we the people" need to making our voices heard!

What more is there to say? He IS thew best person to be POTUS!

[40RatRod]

175. I apologize if this info info was previously posted in this long thread ...

... but I am tired and it is way past my bedtime, but I just saw on the news a few minutes ago that Bernie was not invited, but after he formally requested permission to attend, permission was granted.
The Vatican also issued a statement that the Pope did not invite him and would not be meeting with him when he attended.

[Android3.14]

189. Apology unnecessary as your effort has been derailed by truth

Again.

[CD7981]

183. The Pope Will be in Greece during the Centesimus Annus, also...

He is not listed as a speaker, he is listed as "other participants" on page 10. There isn't even a photo of him.

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

http://www.angelusnews.com/news/vatican/vatican-confirms-pope-francis-will-travel-to-greece-visit-refugees-10509/#.Vwh2tDYrJdg

[yortsed snacilbuper]

188. We'll never get religion out of government now!

[CentralCoaster]

190. Wow. And anyone who can't see the importance of this work, of this moment, well...

...I'll pray for them.

[Cheese Sandwich]

192. So cool. I ignored this all day because of the DU invitation wars.

Such a cool thing I'm just now hearing about it. I'm REC number 199.

[Peace Patriot]

193. Rec #200! Hope I made it!

[billhicks76]

195. Bernies Wife A Deadhead

That's all I need to know. And some fools want Bill Clinton back in the White House? What a sick joke. Deadheads unite. To hell with the bad people.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

196. The C church has run the world for 2000 years, the pope is richest man in world,

I think Bernie should stay in the U.S. of A. and visit some labor leaders.

[BainsBane]

199. Quite an irony considering how much of it he raises

and spends. FYI. It's an academic conference. Is he really going to prepare an academic paper?
Oh, and the pope won't be there, but lots of academic theologians will.

[HockeyMom]

200. Well, the Pope was not too happy with Trump's

Wall. Bernie's views are far more in line with Pope Francis.