TYT (May 8): Hillary Forces Wooing Jeb Bush Donors

[Jack Rabbit]

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Do you know what is the most unrealistic thing in the world? It's unrealistic to think Hillary is going to take all that money from Democratic and Republican donors and not be influenced by it.
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-- Cenk

[apcalc]

1. I believe Cenk is wrong.

Also Money spent to defeat Trump is money well spent.

[jalan48]

2. Didn't George Jr. and Bill C. refer to one another as "Brothers from a different mother"?

It's just one, big, happy ruling class.

[Jack Rabbit]

3. Well, Bill's biological dad was reputed to be a bigamist

But I doubt that's what he meant.
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[jalan48]

5. LOL

[billhicks76]

11. Some Clintonite DUers In Massive Denial

GW Bush, Bush Sr and Barbara have all called Bill and Hillary intimate family "MEMBERS"...this is not because they are all in some cocktail party presidents club as some foolish people insist...you wont see Jimmy Carter in that club or partying in Kennebunkport,Maine at the Bush private retreat as we did see Bill do all the way back to 1982 at least. Some people here are so full of crap and go to any lengths to deny the truth. Only in todays screwed up world could telling the truth be considered insulting.

[Ned_Devine]

12. Nice RW attack!

[billhicks76]

14. Lol...The More Left Wing We Are Here The More We Are Labeled Right Wing

Sorry to the lemmings but Hillary is the choice of military contractors...you know, the ones who robbed the treasury, murdered hundreds of thousands, tortured people and tapped all your phones and computers.

[Ned_Devine]

15. So true

What's the chatter going to be from them tomorrow after Bernie wins WV?

[billhicks76]

26. The More Bernie Wins The More He Loses

Good luck to these jerks when the pitchforks come out. #nosympathy.

[jwirr]

4. Hmmm. And her supporters say Bernie isn't a Democrat?

[Jack Rabbit]

6. Yeah, that's what they say

What would Jon Cowan or Debbie Wasserman Schultz know about being a Democrat?

[jwirr]

7. Exactly.

[stonecutter357]

8. .

[LiberalLovinLug]

9. She made a choice a long time ago

She's already got the mush middle ground Dems who will vote for her without even really knowing what that means. Or vote for her because of her husband, or because she is a woman. Or because its just her turn.

To pick up the needed other votes she could either court the FDR, Bernie, traditional Democratic value voter...folks that have supported the Democratic party for a long time, or say fuck those liberal retards, I'm going to woo the right of center crowd, the moderate Republican that may have voted Jeb, those duped into believing they should worship the wealthy and shower yuuuuuge tax benifits for them in earnest hopes they trickle a little back down, those that believe social programs are not to pick up the disadvantaged to even out the American Dream a little more, have income to contribute to the economy, and pay taxes and be a fruitful citizen, but instead is about "entitlement" and getting free stuff.

Its not because she believes any of that BS. She may, who knows, but she believes even more that they are the next largest demographic after her mushy middle grounder easily won over Dem voters. That there is a whole segment of disenfranchised old school Republicans that have felt left out since the crazies took over. She also probably feels much more comfortable schmoozing with W Bush's old base, the Haves.

She is a pure opportunist. Principles, ethics, or any talk of changing the status quo are not a part of the picture. She and Payday Debbie and the DNC only look at their interpretation of the numbers.

[840high]

10. Cenk is right.

[sofa king]

13. Here's a nice warm cup of compassionate conservatism.

Don't tell anyone, Bush people, but you can pass a drug test with it, too!

[Pauldg47]

16. So if Hillary moves away from Bernie's base, should Sanders run as a write-in Independant?...

Also, could he win this way?

[Jack Rabbit]

17. No, just the way you describe, Trump wins

However, if the GOP splits and runs a mainstream candidate as well as Trump, then Bernie stands a good chance of emerging as President.

Talk about a watershed election, that would be the mother of all realignments.

[Pauldg47]

18. But Hillary just took a hard turn to the right. Did you here?

[Jack Rabbit]

19. Frankly, I never took her populist rhetoric during the primaries seriously

Neither did her paymasters on Wall Street. Now she sounds more like Hillary.

Look at these people from Camp Weathervane. They are actually convinced that she can't be bought. Whatever they're smoking, I want some. Nothing will get through to them.

[Pauldg47]

21. Trumps hard and true criticism on th MSM will help the Bern; don't you think?

[Jack Rabbit]

22. Not really

Trump is like a broken clock who's right twice a day. Where he differs from a broken clock, it's that the broken clock is right twice a day because the time actually correponds to what it reads, Trump is right because he can make a valid syllogism in which one or both of the premises are false but the conclusion still corresponds to reality. For example:

• All trade deals that benefit China should be rejected by the United States (Questionable, to say the least)
• The Trans-Pacific Partnership will benefit China (So The Donald says, but I haven't figured out in what way it does)
• Therefore, The Trans-Pacific Partnership should be rejected by the United States (True, but the premises are a wee bit shakey).[/li[]

If Mr. Trump comes out and calls the MSM a gaggle of prostitutes servicing the establishment, I'd be inclined to agree with him. However, he insults them with still baser terms that could apply to anybody one doesn't like. I don't give a flying leap about Mr. Trump's personality conflicts.

[Pauldg47]

23. Sorry I wasn't clear...I mean't the hard and true criticism of Hillary & BillyBob the past few days?

[Jack Rabbit]

24. No, I don't think that is going to have a lot of effect

Again, Mrs. Clinton's supporters are deaf to any criticism of her in the first place. They think any criticism of her grows out of a vast right wing conspiracy. Of course, a lot of it does and most of that is a lot of hooey. Nevertheless, her supporters are whistling past the graveyard if they think all criticism of her is nonsense.

No one who is not voting for Donald Trump takes him seriously. Most of what he says he gets in the same place he got that thing about a great number of Mexican immigrants being rapists. The Donald calls Mrs. Clinton "corrupt" and I agree, but I didn't need him to tell me that. Where was he eight years ago? I already thought she was corrupt then. No one takes that much cash from shady Wall Bankers without performing a quid pro quo. Can I prove that? Of course not. Is it a "smear" as many Hillary supporters claim? No way. If Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd weren't happy all these years with service the get from Hillary Clinton, they wouldn't keep giving. Assuming she is a saint is naivete supported by sophistry.

Both sides should be worried about a low voter turnout and high rates of popular dissatisfaction with the choice of major party candidate with which it appears the public will be presented. By all accounts, the Republicans should lose this election with Trump and lose big. Look at the pickle into which Trump puts them. Meanwhile, polls show that 30% of Bernie supports are not inclined to vote for Mrs. Clinton in November. The Democratic establishment' is not inclined to give Bernie's supporters a place at the table. Although Bernie received about 45% of the votes cast in Democratic primaries, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC are shutting them out of committees to white the platform and the convention rules. That's very bad politics.

[Pauldg47]

25. I have a feeling though.....we'll see.

[McKim]

20. Her True Neocon Colors

Hillary Clinton is showing her true Neocon Colors. She will carry out the Bush/Cheney/ Neocon Agenda as she helps them build an empire to grab resources around the world, no matter how many die. This is a moral disaster. I may be forced to pay for it with my tax dollars! I may have to watch it all on MSMBC as the US discovers more and more "enemies" or people who are standing up against its empire. This is why I am still giving more and more money to Senator Sanders. It can't happen on my watch. Pulling out all the stops for Sanders!