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Michael Moore says it will be Worse than we think: (Original Post) tomhagen Feb 2017 OP
Moore needs to start digging into the Russian connections from the Trump administration. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #1
He's thrilled--he'll make one of his movies and people will buy it MADem Feb 2017 #2
yeah, good points. I was never a huge fan but he turned me off a bit during the election Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #3
Why? What did he do? nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #6
too much Hillary bashing and passive-aggressive Trump support Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #8
When did he bash Hillary? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #10
I can't remember specifics, but he was a strong Bernie supporter, and as such, leveled a lot of Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #12
yes, I was a Bernie supporter too, and not to rehash it, but things got testy between the two sides Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #13
He's continuing to work quite hard to motivate people to protest and call congress, and we can see JudyM Feb 2017 #14
He's turning as many people off as he's "encouraging." MADem Feb 2017 #18
Is your first statement based on evidence? Or anecdotal? JudyM Feb 2017 #21
Ya gotta feel for old warriors like this. yallerdawg Feb 2017 #4
Mr.Comfortable aka Don Lemon.. coco22 Feb 2017 #5
Moore says Trump is "honest"-- WTF???? Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #7
He said trumpft was honest in saying what he felt Merlot Feb 2017 #16
perhaps, but he didn't qualify it and I didn't like the way it came across at all Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #22
+1 putitinD Feb 2017 #26
The worse it gets obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2017 #9
The Moore hate is classic DLC. BlueWI Feb 2017 #15
Agreed. Moore is a truth teller. Merlot Feb 2017 #17
Spot on! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2017 #20
Exactly. BlueWI Feb 2017 #24
Thank you 90-percent Feb 2017 #23
That movie came out right about the time I was 18, It was a major factor in me looking to putitinD Feb 2017 #27
New blood is right. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #19
A number of other observers also said...."It will be worse than we think" Stuart G Feb 2017 #25
 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
1. Moore needs to start digging into the Russian connections from the Trump administration.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:54 AM
Feb 2017

Yes, I'm talking about a "Fahrenheit 9/11-type" documentary that exposes these bastards for who they really are.

I do agree with him about a changing of the guard in the DNC leadership-- Ellison would be the perfect fit to lead us into the 2018 & 2020 elections. A concerted grassroots effort (50 state solution) that catapulted us in 2008 should be the starting point for all involved.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. He's thrilled--he'll make one of his movies and people will buy it
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:47 AM
Feb 2017

like it makes a difference. Trump makes him rich. A Clinton presidency would have forced him to work much harder to find something to complain about on film.

I'm not impressed with him at all anymore. After he tried to paint himself as a Woman's March leader, lecturing the crowd about what they have to do, and was tugged away from the mic by Ashley Judd, I've quite soured on his antics.

I don't regard him as a leader in the 'resistance' effort and I don't think he'll motivate a large following (he'll always have die-hard fans). This thing is organic and bottoms-up--no one's waiting for pronouncements from Gods On High; they're working this locally and regionally, and that's great.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
8. too much Hillary bashing and passive-aggressive Trump support
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:25 AM
Feb 2017

not to mention the BS Moore pus out just in this video.

 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
10. When did he bash Hillary?
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:08 AM
Feb 2017

I found examples of him saying that Trump could win and Hillary needed to do better campaigning, but I can't find any where he bashed her.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. I can't remember specifics, but he was a strong Bernie supporter, and as such, leveled a lot of
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:25 PM
Feb 2017

criticism at her.

Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #11)

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
13. yes, I was a Bernie supporter too, and not to rehash it, but things got testy between the two sides
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 07:39 PM
Feb 2017

I could see the point at which criticism of Hillary got counter-productive.

In any case, my bigger beef here is his take on Trump, and calling him honest is too much!

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
14. He's continuing to work quite hard to motivate people to protest and call congress, and we can see
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:30 PM
Feb 2017

this is actually helping, based on comments even from rethugs in Congress.

I don't have a problem with a feminist of either gender speaking up at a women's march, and proactively mobilizing critical action.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. He's turning as many people off as he's "encouraging."
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 01:01 AM
Feb 2017

I don't take my cues from him.

First he looks at the purse.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. Ya gotta feel for old warriors like this.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:22 AM
Feb 2017

Been tellin' us the 'awful truth' for decades and America gives us Bush, and now...this.

Added 'The Reistance Calendar' for reference - three events in Alabama now! - with links!

Never quit fighting.

coco22

(1,258 posts)
5. Mr.Comfortable aka Don Lemon..
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:35 AM
Feb 2017

is talking like Joe Scarborough about branches of government and things taking care of themselves, and to that I say BULLHOCKEY!

This kind of talk has helped to normalize these maniacs.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
7. Moore says Trump is "honest"-- WTF????
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:25 AM
Feb 2017

Never mind the constant barrage of lies from Trump.

The TRump people are are only in honest in trying to do extremist rightwing things.

They are NOT going to do any of the good things they promised.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
16. He said trumpft was honest in saying what he felt
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:05 AM
Feb 2017

things like saying he could shoot someone and get away with it. I don't think Moore thinks for a minute that trumpft is an honest person.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
22. perhaps, but he didn't qualify it and I didn't like the way it came across at all
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:56 AM
Feb 2017

He was saying that Trump was honest about "what he's going to do". But I don't think Trump is honest about replacing ACA with something better or saving SS and Medicare, at all.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
15. The Moore hate is classic DLC.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:04 AM
Feb 2017

Moore makes brave, timely, and relevant films. Ever see them? He made his money with left leaning documentaries with a punch. Remember Bowling with Columbine? Sicko? Farenheit 9-11 when trembling liberals were voting for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act? When not one Dem senator was brave enough to call out the vote suppression in Florida as the 2000 election was being certified, Moore put that mess on the big screen. Who else did that?

Hillary Clinton cashed in with Goldman Sachs and people yawn. Moore makes an honest dollar with left films and gets bashed. Welcome to DU!

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. Agreed. Moore is a truth teller.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:11 AM
Feb 2017

Cynical people always say he's in it for the money. And even if he were "in it for the money" it still woudn't change the content of his docs.

And yes, he said drumpft would win. That didn't mean he wanted him to win. I always thought Hillary would loose no matter who she ran against. Doesn't mean I wanted her to loose. And we know that without all the skulduggery she would have won. But any dem who doesn't recognize that skulduggery is part of the repub play book is going to loose.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,272 posts)
20. Spot on!
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 02:17 AM
Feb 2017

Omg!!!! Michael Moore earns a ton of money making very successful films!!!!

This is when the DLCers turn in to communists - just for this topic.

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
23. Thank you
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:07 PM
Feb 2017

I've loved Michael since Roger and me. His nineties tv shows, one on nbc and one on fox, were his mix of humor and charming gentle comedy like his Canadian Bacon.

He is on the side of the American way and liberty and justice for all. And his pre-election prediction shows he can be spot on in his observations. He mingles with the little people a lot more than most public figures.

Like my lifelong hero Frank Zappa, Michael is only concerned about wealth in so much as it allows him to create his next works.

-90% Jimmy

ps - didn't he do a nice pre-election anti-propaganda about hillary and how shes not so bad after all?

putitinD

(1,551 posts)
27. That movie came out right about the time I was 18, It was a major factor in me looking to
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:09 PM
Feb 2017

the Democratic party. I was raised in a family of staunch Republicans, whom I've had much success in converting most of them to Democrats. MM makes obscure things going on around us mainstream.

Stuart G

(38,363 posts)
25. A number of other observers also said...."It will be worse than we think"
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:54 PM
Feb 2017

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Van Jones said the same thing in December on the Daily Show:...(an article about that from Daily Beast)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/06/van-jones-on-daily-show-trump-is-much-worse-than-we-realize.html

and the Daily Kos said the same in a long article on November 14...here is that link:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/14/1599005/-It-s-worse-than-we-think

very very scary...

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