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These simple voters have been used by the Con Man in the Oval Office (Original Post) tomhagen Mar 2017 OP
So while trump was willing to cause tremendous harm to OTHERS, fine Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1
Yes, I do feel sorry for this guy. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #2
what little empathy I had for the wingnuts elmac Mar 2017 #4
Pharmaceutical reform was Bernie's big deal prior to the election. And he endorsed HRC soo... Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #5
not one iota of concern heaven05 Mar 2017 #15
let me get a box of Kleenex out elmac Mar 2017 #3
I guess I'm just one of those bleeding hearts The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #6
Ah, but where is your sympathy for Trump? jberryhill Mar 2017 #9
I wouldn't want to live in his head, that's for sure. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #10
All while knowing deep down you are not jberryhill Mar 2017 #12
If you slipped these Trump voters truth serum, and asked them what they REALLY thought about repeal tenorly Mar 2017 #7
+++ heaven05 Mar 2017 #14
Bingo deancr Mar 2017 #19
Remember when Trump said that he would promise you the world Dude.............. turbinetree Mar 2017 #8
You know . . . JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #11
these voters are not simple heaven05 Mar 2017 #13
People like this get no sympathy from me. Paladin Mar 2017 #16
Yes they got conned MontanaMama Mar 2017 #17
I lost my son, too. tazkcmo Mar 2017 #18
Please save us from the fucking simple voters. stopbush Mar 2017 #20
makes no sense to me Skittles Mar 2017 #21

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. So while trump was willing to cause tremendous harm to OTHERS, fine
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:26 PM
Mar 2017

when it was clear he would be harmed, oh no...cant have that

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
2. Yes, I do feel sorry for this guy.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:28 PM
Mar 2017

I know there will be a lot of "Fuck him, he was an idiot for voting for Trump" comments, but this is a sad case. This man's son died of a heroin overdose, and like a lot of people who experience a personal tragedy he turned his grief into a mission (think of people like John Walsh and Patty Wetterling). His goal was to get help for others with opioid addictions, and he believed Trump's promises that there would be funding for opioid treatment programs. Moss' faith in Trump because of this particular issue was so great that he sold his construction equipment and stopped paying his mortgage in order to finance his campaigning.

One might say that level of faith in any politician's promises would be misplaced, since campaign promises, even those made sincerely, are merely aspirational. If you follow politics you know even your favorite candidate can't follow through on all of those promises because of political realities, but at least you know those issues will be promoted and supported. This man seems to have been pretty naive about politics, or at least he was blinded by his devotion to the issue of drug addiction and desperately wanted to believe Trump really would follow through. It's doubtful that very much else really mattered to him. Trump, of course, is a con man who had no intention of following through unless it was politically expedient for him to do so.

So, Kraig Moss sunk everything he owned into the Trump campaign because of his intense desire to do something about the addiction that killed his son, and Trump conned him, like he conned so many others in one way or another. I hope other Trump voters who see that story can finally figure out what many of us already knew about Trump.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
5. Pharmaceutical reform was Bernie's big deal prior to the election. And he endorsed HRC soo...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:33 PM
Mar 2017

Trump's strategy was truly to promise everything and hope that somebody finds at least one of those promises tailored to them enough so that they can overlook the shitty other promises.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
3. let me get a box of Kleenex out
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:29 PM
Mar 2017

NOT!, those self centered assholes were ready to screw everyone else so what goes around comes around

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
6. I guess I'm just one of those bleeding hearts
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:36 PM
Mar 2017

but I feel compassion for anyone who gets the rug pulled out from under them like that. Maybe he should have known better but evidently he didn't. He lost his son, he lost his money and I can't help feeling some sympathy. Trump is an asshole but I'm not.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Ah, but where is your sympathy for Trump?
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:04 PM
Mar 2017

Can he simply decide not to be an asshole?

Maybe he shouldn't be an asshole, but he can't help it.

Is he not a hostage to his own psyche like everyone else?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
10. I wouldn't want to live in his head, that's for sure.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:06 PM
Mar 2017

I can't imagine what it would be like to be so insecure that you have to spend every waking minute trying to prove to the whole world that you're the biggest, best, greatest, smartest, never wrong person ever.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. All while knowing deep down you are not
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:11 PM
Mar 2017

The attitude I have developed for coping with assholes is to imagine the horror of being one and having to wake up every morning and see myself in the mirror as one of them.

The true sociopath is untroubled though.

So I have to wonder if I were a lot dumber and didn't give a shit about anyone else, would *I* be happier?

The crazy thing is that I don't think I would be.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
7. If you slipped these Trump voters truth serum, and asked them what they REALLY thought about repeal
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:39 PM
Mar 2017

most of them would tell you: "Shoot. I thought the only ones who'd lose their health care, would be the n***ers!"

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
8. Remember when Trump said that he would promise you the world Dude..............
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:48 PM
Mar 2017

your first thought should have been this, this also was reality, and it was on a film......................

Your sorrow, is understandable, and I have empathy, he, your "guy" has no empathy--------------none, he is a pathological liar

Your "guy" was full of BS and he bragged about grabbing and harming woman, just think of that :



 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. these voters are not simple
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:27 PM
Mar 2017

poor things got conned?...I hope he has learned a valuable lesson, but in most matters hateful, probably not.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
16. People like this get no sympathy from me.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017

They are adults, they had opportunities to make informed political decisions, and they ended up putting in with trump---and in so doing, they placed the entire population of this country in profound jeopardy. I'm not in a forgiving mood, and I don't think I will be, for some time to come.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
17. Yes they got conned
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:40 PM
Mar 2017

But they had access to the same information the rest of us did and they made their own beds. I'm sorry this man lost his son but I'm sorrier for all the people who stand to lose their loved ones because of his stupidity and selfishness.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
18. I lost my son, too.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:49 PM
Mar 2017

SO I feel I can actually say, "I feel your pain." and be truthful to this man. Beyond the sympathy and empathy I feel for another parent burying their child (The pain does NOT go away!) I also have to forgive him unlike the woman who's husband is being deported due to her vote. The despair, over whelming sadness and self blame he's experiencing is strong enough to make an other wise smart person to do stupid things.

Normally, I'd be laughing at this Shit Gibbon voter but in cases like these I have to consider how their emotional state of mind has effected the rational part of it.

Sir, take your grief, anger and desire to prevent other parents from experiencing the same as you and try to channel it into positive actions. I know, it's much easier said than done when just getting out of bed feels like a monumental victory.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
21. makes no sense to me
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:52 AM
Mar 2017

I truly sympathize with their plights; what I CANNOT understand is how they *EVER* thought *DONALD FUCKING TRUMP* was some kind of answer

IT BOGGLES THE MIND

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