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Related: About this forumThese simple voters have been used by the Con Man in the Oval Office
They were taken in and exploited by the Slick Salesman Bullshit Artist who Conned them Cold. And the Media failed to communicate the facts.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)when it was clear he would be harmed, oh no...cant have that
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)I know there will be a lot of "Fuck him, he was an idiot for voting for Trump" comments, but this is a sad case. This man's son died of a heroin overdose, and like a lot of people who experience a personal tragedy he turned his grief into a mission (think of people like John Walsh and Patty Wetterling). His goal was to get help for others with opioid addictions, and he believed Trump's promises that there would be funding for opioid treatment programs. Moss' faith in Trump because of this particular issue was so great that he sold his construction equipment and stopped paying his mortgage in order to finance his campaigning.
One might say that level of faith in any politician's promises would be misplaced, since campaign promises, even those made sincerely, are merely aspirational. If you follow politics you know even your favorite candidate can't follow through on all of those promises because of political realities, but at least you know those issues will be promoted and supported. This man seems to have been pretty naive about politics, or at least he was blinded by his devotion to the issue of drug addiction and desperately wanted to believe Trump really would follow through. It's doubtful that very much else really mattered to him. Trump, of course, is a con man who had no intention of following through unless it was politically expedient for him to do so.
So, Kraig Moss sunk everything he owned into the Trump campaign because of his intense desire to do something about the addiction that killed his son, and Trump conned him, like he conned so many others in one way or another. I hope other Trump voters who see that story can finally figure out what many of us already knew about Trump.
elmac
(4,642 posts)flew out the window on Nov 9th
Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)Trump's strategy was truly to promise everything and hope that somebody finds at least one of those promises tailored to them enough so that they can overlook the shitty other promises.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)or empathy do I feel for this......trumpchump. Dead son or not.
elmac
(4,642 posts)NOT!, those self centered assholes were ready to screw everyone else so what goes around comes around
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)but I feel compassion for anyone who gets the rug pulled out from under them like that. Maybe he should have known better but evidently he didn't. He lost his son, he lost his money and I can't help feeling some sympathy. Trump is an asshole but I'm not.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Can he simply decide not to be an asshole?
Maybe he shouldn't be an asshole, but he can't help it.
Is he not a hostage to his own psyche like everyone else?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)I can't imagine what it would be like to be so insecure that you have to spend every waking minute trying to prove to the whole world that you're the biggest, best, greatest, smartest, never wrong person ever.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The attitude I have developed for coping with assholes is to imagine the horror of being one and having to wake up every morning and see myself in the mirror as one of them.
The true sociopath is untroubled though.
So I have to wonder if I were a lot dumber and didn't give a shit about anyone else, would *I* be happier?
The crazy thing is that I don't think I would be.
tenorly
(2,037 posts)most of them would tell you: "Shoot. I thought the only ones who'd lose their health care, would be the n***ers!"
true for 99.9999%
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)your first thought should have been this, this also was reality, and it was on a film......................
Your sorrow, is understandable, and I have empathy, he, your "guy" has no empathy--------------none, he is a pathological liar
Your "guy" was full of BS and he bragged about grabbing and harming woman, just think of that :
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Trump doesn't care.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)poor things got conned?...I hope he has learned a valuable lesson, but in most matters hateful, probably not.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)They are adults, they had opportunities to make informed political decisions, and they ended up putting in with trump---and in so doing, they placed the entire population of this country in profound jeopardy. I'm not in a forgiving mood, and I don't think I will be, for some time to come.
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)But they had access to the same information the rest of us did and they made their own beds. I'm sorry this man lost his son but I'm sorrier for all the people who stand to lose their loved ones because of his stupidity and selfishness.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)SO I feel I can actually say, "I feel your pain." and be truthful to this man. Beyond the sympathy and empathy I feel for another parent burying their child (The pain does NOT go away!) I also have to forgive him unlike the woman who's husband is being deported due to her vote. The despair, over whelming sadness and self blame he's experiencing is strong enough to make an other wise smart person to do stupid things.
Normally, I'd be laughing at this Shit Gibbon voter but in cases like these I have to consider how their emotional state of mind has effected the rational part of it.
Sir, take your grief, anger and desire to prevent other parents from experiencing the same as you and try to channel it into positive actions. I know, it's much easier said than done when just getting out of bed feels like a monumental victory.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)I truly sympathize with their plights; what I CANNOT understand is how they *EVER* thought *DONALD FUCKING TRUMP* was some kind of answer
IT BOGGLES THE MIND