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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 10:32 AM Aug 2012

Howard Zinn: "Be Honest About the History of Our Country"





Published on Aug 24, 2012 by democracynow

DemocracyNow.org - The late historian, writer and activist Howard Zinn would have turned 90 years old today. Zinn died of a heart attack at the age of 87 on January 27, 2010. After serving as a bombardier in World War II, Zinn went on to become a lifelong dissident and peace activist. He was active in the civil rights movement and many of the struggles for social justice over the past 50 years. In 1980, Howard Zinn published his classic book, "A People's History of the United States," which would go on to sell more than a million copies and change the way we look at history in America. We air an excerpt of a Zinn interview on Democracy Now! from May 2009, and another from one of his last speeches later that year, just two months before his death.


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Howard Zinn: "Be Honest About the History of Our Country" (Original Post) marmar Aug 2012 OP
I wish I could recommend this 1,000 times. Howard Zinn was a 1monster Aug 2012 #1
Thanks for posting LittleGirl Aug 2012 #2
"When enough soldiers refuse..." xtraxritical Aug 2012 #3
That, of course, is what actually ended the Viet Nam War. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #7
I went to great lengths to stay out of the Army from '68 to '75. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #8
Powerful stuff there. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #4
"People have the power when they start to organize and change things. That's all" leveymg Aug 2012 #5
He was a beacon of light, and I often refer to his words when told nothing will work: freshwest Aug 2012 #6
K&R!!! DeSwiss Aug 2012 #9
Howard Zinn made it possible for me to like history. Curmudgeoness Aug 2012 #10

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
2. Thanks for posting
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:20 AM
Aug 2012

I just discovered Mr. Zinn this year and I'm deeply saddened that I missed knowing him all of these years. I have read one of his books and this winter, I plan to continue to read everything I can get ahold of that he wrote.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. "People have the power when they start to organize and change things. That's all"
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

Howard was my teacher and my friend. He's also a hero.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. He was a beacon of light, and I often refer to his words when told nothing will work:
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:24 PM
Aug 2012
“To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness.

What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something.

If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction.

And if we do act, in however small a way, we don’t have to wait for some grand Utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.


~ Howard Zinn
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
9. K&R!!!
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 03:08 PM
Aug 2012

Also check out:

Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong
by James W. Loewen. Simon & Schuster, 1995.

http://www.criticalthink.info/Phil1301/lieshist.htm

Note: The following are notes from the above book. I found the book seminal, eye-opening, life-changing. I recommend that you buy and read the entire book. Only by reading the entire book will you get the whole picture. The following quotes, I hope, will whet your appetite. -- Colby Glass

"..the teaching of history, more than any other discipline, is dominated by textbooks... the books are boring... [they] exclude conflict or real suspense. They leave out anything that might reflect badly upon our national character" (13).

Helen Keller
"Keller.. never wavered in her belief that our society needed radical change.. she helped found the American Civil Liberties Union to fight for the free speech of others. She sent $100 to the NAACP with a letter of support... She supported Eugene V. Debs, the Socialist candidate, in each of his campaigns for the presidency..

"One may not agree with Helen Keller's positions. her praise of the USSR now seems naive, embarrassing, to some even treasonous. But she was a radical--a fact few Americans know.." (22).

Woodrow Wilson
".. two antidemocratic policies that Wilson carried out: his racial segregation of the federal government and his military interventions in foreign countries" (23).

"Under Wilson, the United States intervened in Latin America more often than at any other time in our history.. In 1917 Woodrow Wilson.. started sending secret monetary aid to the "White" side of the Russian civil war... This aggression fueled the suspicions that motivated the Soviets during the Cold War..." (23-4).

"..Wilson's interventions in Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and Nicaragua set the stage for the dictators Batista, Trujillo, the Duvaliers, and the Somozas.." (24).

"He was an outspoken white supremacist--his wife was even worse--and told "darky" stories in cabinet meetings" (27).

"Spurred by Birth of a Nation, William Simmons of Georgia reestablished the Ku Klux Klan. The racism seeping down from the White House encouraged this klan.." (28).

"Wilson was not only antiblack; he was also far and away our most nativist president, repeatedly questioning the loyalty of those he called "hyphenated Americans"" (29).

Christopher Columbus
Columbus discovered America and proved that the earth was not flat... Right? We tend to "underplay previous explorers" (39). There were probably 15 or more individuals and groups that "discovered" and settled America before Columbus.

"..new and more deadly forms of smallpox and bubonic plague had arisen in Europe.. Passed on to those the Europeans met, these diseases helped Europe conquer the Americas and, later, the islands of the Pacific" (44). Columbus claimed everything he saw right off the boat. When textbooks celebrate this process, they imply that taking the land and dominating the indians was inevitable if not natural" (44).

"Christopher Columbus introduced two phenomena that revolutionized race relations and transformed the modern world: the taking of land, wealth, and labor from indigenous peoples, leading to their near extermination, and the transatlantic slave trade, which created a racial underclass" (60).

"When Columbus and his men returned to Haiti in 1493, they demanded food, gold, spun cotton--whatever the Indians had that they wanted, including sex with their women. To ensure cooperation, Columbus used punishment by example. When an Indian committed even a minor offense, the Spanish cut off his ears or nose" (61). "...attempts at resistance gave Columbus an excuse to make war... For this he chose 200 foot soldiers and 20 cavalry, with many crossbows and small cannon, lances, and swords, and a still more terrible weapon against the Indians, in addition to the horses: this was 20 hunting dogs, who were turned loose and immediately tore the Indians apart" (61).

"Columbus.. initiated a great slave raid. They rounded up 1,500 Arawaks, then selected the 500 best specimens (of whom 200 would die en route to Spain. Another 500 were chosen as slaves for the Spaniards staying on the island" (62). Spaniards hunted Indians for sport and murdered them for dog food. Columbus, upset because he could not locate the gold he was certain was on the island, set up a tribute system... The Indians all promised to pay tribute.. every three months... With a fresh token, an Indian was safe for three months, much of which time would be devoted to collecting more gold... the Spanish punished those whose tokens had expired: they cut off their hands" (62).

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Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. Howard Zinn made it possible for me to like history.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 03:16 PM
Aug 2012

I always thought that there was so much more than learning about the presidents and kings and wars. To know what the policies of a time meant to the ordinary people was what I had craved. I always wanted to know how people like me were doing at certain periods....well, Zinn gave me that.

"The power of the people at the top depends on the obedience of the people at the bottom." Ain't that the truth!

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