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Related: About this forumHMS Bounty Sinks Off Coast; 14 Rescued, 2 Still Missing
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Elizabeth City, NC -- Fourteen people are safely back on land after their ship sank as Hurricane Sandy skirted the North Carolina coast.
The HMS Bounty, a 180-foot, three-mast tall ship, was last marked about 90 miles southeast of Hatteras.
The ship has sunk, according to the Coast Guard at 8:45 a.m. Monday.
The Coast Guard continues to use a helicopter and an airplane to search for the two remaining crew members.
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SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)The Pirates of the Caribbean.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...it was created for the 1962 Mutiny on the Bounty starring Marlon Brando. That's a serious loss of movie history, although certainly not as bad as the fact that two crew members are still missing.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)the replicas let you touch history. They were part of The Tall Ships around the country. We were able to board The Bounty when it came to Duluth.
joanbarnes
(1,723 posts)flamingdem
(39,319 posts)best thoughts for those involved
theoldman
(3,674 posts)They had adequate warning that the storm was coming. It is a sailing ship and depends on the wind so it was a lot slower than ships powered with an engine. The captain must take responsibility for the loss of lives.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Early reports suggest there was some sort of disagreement or confusion among the crew. More details are coming...
bongbong
(5,436 posts)> arly reports suggest there was some sort of disagreement or confusion among the crew. More details are coming...
If that EVER happens on a sailing vessel there is a Serious Problem. Democracy has no place AT ALL on the high seas. If the captain cannot restore order and issue straight, clear, unambiguous commands - disasters happen. If that was the case here, it is certainly an illustration of one of the most important rules aboard ship (or yacht or dinghy or rowboat).
progressoid
(49,996 posts)Engines: 375 hp John Deere (2), diesel
Propellers : 54" x 42" â four blade
bongbong
(5,436 posts)750 rated HP pushing on a full-displacement hull weighing 800,000 lbs is not going to result in much speed. They might've been making for open ocean and lost some or all of their power, resulting in beam seas and taking on water. Even at full power, however, they were risking losing steerage, resulting in the same disastrous beam sea situation.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)a GIANT HATS OFF to the saviors of our Coast Guard. I can't imagine the skill it must take to hold that chopper steady in winds like that! And to voluntarily jump into swells like they do. Wow!
progressoid
(49,996 posts)Amazing.
rsweets
(307 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)You can hear the radio say that the other raft had capsized and "2piw" Two people in water.
Prayers for those still missing.
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)Even got to meet the captain of the USCGC Tamaroa (from the perfect storm).
Not my area of the USCG, I'm oil and chemical spill response.
But this isn't the first time this has happened with a tall ship trying to beat a storm. She should have never left port. Whereever she was, they could have found something better up a river. Even an intentional sinking in shallow water would have been better than this. There is a reason Cape Hatteras is called "the graveyard of the Atlantic". Very sad for the crew and the ship.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)Unfortunately, I discovered that my "personality" wasn't at all compatible with the military -- which didn't prevent me from getting drafted (in '68) and doing a tour in Viet Nam. Nonetheless, I still hold a special place n my heart for the USCG ... the hard nucleus about which the Navy forms in time of war. I had two family members who served in the USCG and I've always found the quality of the people topnotch.
I had the experience of sailing the USCGC Eagle (under full sails) off the coast of Cape Hatteras in the summer of '62 (training voyage) during a full gale. We set a speed record in the White Bitch. Her starboard gunwales were awash ... normally a 12' freeboard. Mess deck portholes were 100% submerged. We rigged lifelines fore & aft amidships. Before it got crazy dangerous, riding the forecastle just aft of the bowsprit (think "Titanic" was thrill of a lifetime. We blew a mainsail. It was AWESOME!
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)My personality isn't exactly compatible either, but I am surviving. I read a piece somewhere, I think it was by Chris Hedges that talked about the conformity required of most of our institutions. I thought going in that looking the part would be enough cover, but it isn't and I don't do conformity of thought well.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)Mine was the last class of 250 cadets without an African-American ... and one of the last without females. The early 60s was still in the full throes of the "Leave It To Beaver" 50s ... required chapel attendance, classes in etiquette, ballroom dancing, the whole thing.
"Conformity" doesn't even come close to describing the Life of a Cadet. EVERY article of clothing had to be stowed in a very specific way and location. Shoes had to be tied and in specfic order in the closet. Every shirt and pair of trousers had to be buttoned and facing in a specific direction hanging in the closet. Every pair of socks and piece of underwear had to be folded in the prescribed manner and stowed in a specified drawer. EVERY cadet's room looked exactly the same ... and there were formal inspections every Saturday. And THAT'S just scratching the surface. Time management was obsessive. Every fraction of a minute of every weekday was allocated and there were very few deviances allowed. It was an enormous "learning experience."
And then there was the hazing. There's no way that hasn't been changed. Stuff that makes the news these days would have gotten a shrug if noticed at all in my day. The emotional toll it took could be HUGE. Suffice it to say that Army Basic Training and fraternity hazing in college were almost laughable "walks in the park" for me. As a matter of fact, my own inability to "dish it out" as an upperclassman was a prominent factor in my determination that I wasn't a good "fit" for the military. Too empathic, I guess.
All that said, I have great respect for Coasties, in particular. When I planned on a career in national service, the various missions of the Coast Guard made all sorts of sense to me. Rather than sit around waiting to kill the "enemy" (as my Army experience confirmed), Coasties are busy saving lives and making the seas safer for everyone on them. In "my day" over 75% of the aids to navigation in the entire world were placed and maintained by the USCG, from channel markers to LORAN.
THAT'S a worthwhile National Service.
COASTIES ... eat Post Toasties!
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)OK. Technically they were on a lifeboat but they made sure everyone else was safe. The Captain and a crew member saw everyone else to safety. And then the lifeboat capsized.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)And major mojo for the missing - I hope that they are found safe, although I know the chances are slim.
It must have been terrifying. I remember my family's transatlantic voyages - I spent a major part of my childhood vomiting. I don't like the open sea!