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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:13 PM Aug 2012

Does a goatee REALLY make you look like a douche?

Last night I watched one of those "World's Dumbest" shows on TruTV, where D-list "celebrities" (Danny Bonaduce, Tonya Harding, Daniel Baldwin, Todd Bridges) riff on clips, such as one for a special trimmer made especially for goatees.

One of them said something like "Nothing says 'I am a douche' more than this product."

I don;t really care of people think I'm a douche, but my beard just doesn't grow in on my cheeks, period. So I'm growing a goat. My donor star's expired so the poll I wanted to post isn't gonna happen, but what are your thoughts...does a goatee REALLY seal a guy's fate as a douchebag?

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Does a goatee REALLY make you look like a douche? (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Aug 2012 OP
Hey, don't rip on "World's Dumbest" ... zbdent Aug 2012 #1
Yes Mr.Bill Aug 2012 #2
Not really- digonswine Aug 2012 #3
Abrham Lincoln, Maynard G. Krebs, Mirror Universe Spock, Shaggy eShirl Aug 2012 #4
That's a Van Dyke graywarrior Aug 2012 #6
. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #7
No, appearance and personality are mutual exclusive. Denninmi Aug 2012 #5
Only because everyone else wears em. Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2012 #8
neckbeards FTW! pokerfan Aug 2012 #9
doncha just love blueknight Aug 2012 #10
Danny Bonaduce had a goatee last I looked. eom yawnmaster Aug 2012 #11
Nope. n/t savalez Aug 2012 #12
What's wrong with being clean-shaven? LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #13
Yes. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #14
It helps if you're a douche already... Aristus Aug 2012 #15
I've got one and I think it works. pa28 Aug 2012 #16
I've had Van Dyke for about the past five years. bluesbassman Aug 2012 #17
I have a goatee, and I am absolutely fucking awesome because of it petronius Aug 2012 #18
No, but a lambtee sure will... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #19
Let's think about this... 7wo7rees Aug 2012 #20
If you have to ask... Odd Won Out Aug 2012 #21
What kind of goat are you growing? LynneSin Aug 2012 #22
Pygmy Goats are too cute for words. Liberal Veteran Aug 2012 #24
Absolutely..goatees looks like shit.. MicaelS Aug 2012 #23
I had a moustache/beard/van dyke/goatee type beard once. geardaddy Aug 2012 #25
When I was a little kid and afraid of losing my hair as an adult, my plan was to... Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #26

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
1. Hey, don't rip on "World's Dumbest" ...
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:23 PM
Aug 2012

it's how Danny Baldwin gets enough money to keep from being homeless ...

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
3. Not really-
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
Aug 2012

most of the rednecks in my area choose a bald head and a goatee. They drive big trucks. They love their coon-huntin' dogs, they look askance at all others. It is a cliche about bald overweight folks using a goat to compensate.
They love their dogs, but keep them caged 24/7. Pricks.
You are not a douche for having a goat.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
5. No, appearance and personality are mutual exclusive.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:35 PM
Aug 2012

People often make snap judgments base on appearance, but that doesn't make them valid.

You certainly don't sound like a douche to me, based on what I know of you from your posts. All a goatee says to me about a guy is that he is perhaps more daring in his fashion/style choices than I am.

I actually had kind of a strange conversation about many things a week or so ago with my mother, who is 87, and at one point, I brought up the issue of snap judgements/first impressions/stereotypes based on appearance. And, I picked a photo of someone from an online image gallery and showed it to her. This is the photo I chose and showed to her:



And I asked her to do this little exercise -- tell me about this person? What kind of person would this be? What would he do in life? Would he be a success? Would he be a productive member of society? Would he be a good person?

Her answers were kind of telling, I thought, because they showed a lot of prejudice, probably generational, based solely on the image. Without having a clue who the man is, she said that the person depicted was probably a criminal or drug addict, and she thought he could possibly be someone "famous" (she meant infamous) for doing some horrific act or crime. She said he was probably a lazy person, dangerous, untrustworthy, someone who would probably rob or steal or rape, and was probably in prison.

The man in the photo is, of course, Billie Joe Armstrong, lead singer/songwriter of one of my very favorite bands, Green Day, one of the most honored punk bands ever. Among other things, Armstrong is a very dedicated Democrat and has campaigned for Gore, Kerry, and Obama as well as for candidates in California races. Hardly lazy, he has written or co-written numerous songs for multiple albums as well as one Broadway musical, with the second in the pipeline.

So, no, I a say appearance is superficial, it's personality that matters.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
8. Only because everyone else wears em.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:01 PM
Aug 2012

Same thing with piercings, tattoos, whatever clothing is all the rage. Trying to look like a non-conformist is the new manufactured norm. But if you would have worn a goatee in the preppy 1980s or in the future when the fad has passed, then rock it.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
13. What's wrong with being clean-shaven?
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:31 PM
Aug 2012

Or growing a mustache?

I can't stand goatees - they are the ugliest of all beads, and I dislike beards altogether. Goatees make guys look like goats.
I don't know that goatees instantly turn people into douchebags. But they are purely unattractive.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
14. Yes.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:42 PM
Aug 2012

A goatee identifies you incontestably as a douche. However, a soul patch proves that you're an even bigger douche.

Aristus

(66,379 posts)
15. It helps if you're a douche already...
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 10:32 PM
Aug 2012


As above, technically a Van Dyke (a true van dyke, with pointy ends and everything...), but still...

pa28

(6,145 posts)
16. I've got one and I think it works.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:02 PM
Aug 2012

Outside opinions don't really bother me as long as I'm happy with it.

On a side note Tonya Harding recently moved to my town. I'm not kidding.



bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
17. I've had Van Dyke for about the past five years.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:10 PM
Aug 2012

Basic shape (moustache connected, no long points along the jaw, etc.) and I keep it trimmed very short.

Not fond of true goatees, and I find that most of the guys I run into sporting a patch of hair on the tip of their chins lean to the douche side, but your mileage may vary.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
18. I have a goatee, and I am absolutely fucking awesome because of it
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:49 PM
Aug 2012

Of course, guys who make claims on the internet about how awesome they are, are by definition douchebags.

Thus, the answer to your question is "yes". QED.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
22. What kind of goat are you growing?
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 01:37 PM
Aug 2012

Boer Goat?


Pygmy Goat?


Angora Goat?


Fainting Goat?

Goats are such pretty animals!!!

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
24. Pygmy Goats are too cute for words.
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 01:47 PM
Aug 2012

Squeeeeee!

I was in a pet store one time and a pygmy goat came up to me like a puppy.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
23. Absolutely..goatees looks like shit..
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

Unless you're Abraham Lincoln, and I make an exception for him.

VanDykes, OTOH balance out the facial hair look. A well trimmed VanDyke looks great, much better than a full beard.

IMO, the only thing worse that a goatee is the deliberate stubble look.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
25. I had a moustache/beard/van dyke/goatee type beard once.
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 01:52 PM
Aug 2012

I didn't have it long. I thought I looked like a douche.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
26. When I was a little kid and afraid of losing my hair as an adult, my plan was to...
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012

shave my head and grow a VanDyke because I thought Anton LaVey looked really cool.
Apparently, so did just about every other man in the world.
Thank god I kept my hair.

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