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no_hypocrisy

(46,243 posts)
3. My first experience:
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 05:49 AM
Apr 27

I took a big swig of chocolate soy milk at age 35.

Call it free association, but my first reaction was "Ugh! Baby formula!"

I called my mother to see if she could explain the connection.

Mom revealed that I was breastfed until 3 months. She switched me a soy formula due to mastitis.

I find it remarkable that I knew what I was tasting despite the fact that at 3 months, I wasn't verbal.

Irish_Dem

(47,530 posts)
7. That is so interesting. A true preverbal memory.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:00 AM
Apr 27

It sounds like you didn't like the switch at three months of age.

Irish_Dem

(47,530 posts)
9. Quite interesting and verified preverbal infant memory.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:18 AM
Apr 27

Sounds like a very strong memory from 3 months of age.
Generally we think that such things cannot happen before 6 months of age.

But I believe in your case you were quite upset about the food switch and didn't like the taste of soy milk.
And so it left a strong preverbal memory.

That means you just have the feeling, but no words attached to it.

That memory was activated when you tasted soy milk again, many years later.

To take one taste of soy milk as an adult and dislike it because it tastes like baby formula is unusual.
Then you discuss it with your mother who verifies that you were switched from breast milk to soy milk
at 3 months of age.

no_hypocrisy

(46,243 posts)
11. I've heard and read that the most primitive senses of our five
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:56 AM
Apr 27

are smell and taste.

Besides the above referenced anecdote, I add this: I was melting leaf lard and it emitted a noxious smell/odor. I was ready to retch (excuse the alliteration). After a few hours, it came to me: when I was four, I smelled the same odor and had the same reaction. We had an African-American housekeeper from the South. Our kitchen had the same smell at times. She was melting lard to make the fried chicken my father craved.

Around the same time of my life, I entered Kindergarten. Our room was in the basement of an old building. And our room had a certain smell: wooden floors, plaster, dried paint, etc. And when I returned 50 years later (last chance to tour the building before it was torn down), I smelled exactly the same smell. I was immediately returned to my Kindergarten class. It was extraordinary.

Irish_Dem

(47,530 posts)
12. Yes. Smell has the very strong ability to spontaneously evoke strong memories.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:05 AM
Apr 27

Brain scans show that odors bring on strong memories because of the brain regions that process them.
The group of brain areas that are best known for processing emotions, learning, and memory also process odors.

It can transport us back to the time and place of the original experience.

So olfactory input is located in the same part of the brain that processes emotions and memory.
That part of your brain is quite active.

Also when your mother stopped breast feeding you and switched you to a bottle, you lost the skin on skin
contact with your mother. Her smell, body warmth, etc.

So perhaps we had a small attachment loss going on.

Sanity Claws

(21,860 posts)
4. I don't drink it alone
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 07:21 AM
Apr 27

It is okay when you substitute it for cow milk when baking. I also use it with oatmeal and mix it with fruit to make a smoothie.
Otherwise I just don't like it enough to drink alone.
Why do you ask?

Blues Heron

(5,947 posts)
5. Depends on the brand. Get unsweetened, unflavored if you can. Works in Tea, coffee can curdle it unless you
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 07:46 AM
Apr 27

pour through the PH barrier really fast and/or the coffee isnt too acidic. If you are trying to avoid dairy, soy can be an excellent alternative. Definite taste acceptance curve. However, a few days or weeks of using it and you might find its cows milk that tastes weird!

unblock

(52,387 posts)
6. I prefer it to cow milk.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 07:46 AM
Apr 27

Cow milk now seems thin and watery. Soy milk is richer and more flavorful. Vanilla soy milk is good for drinking straight. Plain soy milk works great in cereals.

I now use cow milk only for sauces. Soy milk doesn't seem to mix well. Maybe there's a trick to it, adding emulsifiers somehow?

JanMichael

(24,897 posts)
10. It is fine for cereal and cooking.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:35 AM
Apr 27

It has a nuttier essence than macadamia. And it has a good protein profile.

Oat is great for cereal but lousy for cooking due to the sugar content. At least is you are cooking non sweet stuff.

Plus I cannot stand the abuse of animals for our satisfaction.

hunter

(38,337 posts)
13. Different brands have a different taste to them.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:56 AM
Apr 27

None of them really taste anything like cow's milk. They taste like soy milk. There are vegan milk substitutes that taste more like cow's milk but I think cow's milk is an acquired taste.

My wife is lactose intolerant and that's common in our family so milk isn't on our regular shopping list.

Worldwide, about 65% of people experience some form of lactose intolerance as they age past infancy, but there are significant differences between populations and regions. As few as 5% of northern Europeans are lactose intolerant, while as many as 90% of adults in parts of Asia are lactose intolerant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance


I've also got some animosity towards the factory farm dairy industry.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
15. thanks for all the answers
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 12:33 AM
Apr 28

Just worrying about what I will sub for dairy milk (which is a large part of my protein intake) if necessary.

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