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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:37 PM Nov 2012

Do you think animals in zoos are generally happy animals

Mind you let's assume that the zoo is well run although I suspect there are still zoos out there that poorly treat their animals.

I mean the pros for an animal living in a zoo is that it will always be well feed, have the best medical care should it hurt and it would no longer have to worry about being hunted (for those animals that are food for other animals). Todays modern zoos insure that there is plenty of space for the animals to live along with plenty of toys to play with to keep it amused.

The downside of course is the animal does live in a confined space and many times in conditions not normal to it's habitat (ie Elephants and camels don't normally live in regions of the world where there is snow).

What do you think?

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In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
1. No.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:40 PM
Nov 2012

I wouldn't be too thrilled about being confined no matter how comfortable my surrounding seem to be.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
2. True - but you and I have brains with greater capacity
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:44 PM
Nov 2012

I mean my cats seem pretty darn happy with routine.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
9. Animals are smarter than we think.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:29 PM
Nov 2012

Sometimes I wonder about my brain . . . as in What the hell was I thinking.

My chocolate lab was a rescue. I found her running the streets of Florence Alabama. She had been beaten (there were scabs) and kicked (it was difficult to walk past her in a small space). I gave her a home, food and a fenced-in yard. We've recently moved and now she is a house dog without a yard of her own. She's adjusting to her limited space but she whines to be outside. Is she happy? Yes & no.

My parrot wouldn't survive 24 hours without me but she will try to fly toward me or a window when she's frightened. She was born in captivity. She's never known freedom. She loves me but I wonder if she would be happier with a mate.

[img][/img] BTW ~ Your cats have it made. [img][/img]

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
4. True, I can't imagine an animal that has lived in the wild for years could manage well in a zoo
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:48 PM
Nov 2012

but those born & bred in zoos probably couldn't survive as well in the wild.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
6. I don't see anything wrong with it if the animals are well taking care of,..
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:04 PM
Nov 2012

...Are treated with respect and have plenty of food.

Our Zoo, here in the Tampa bay area,even has a large space (2 city blocks) for certain animals to roam.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,580 posts)
7. I'm not sure animals can be either happy or unhappy
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:19 PM
Nov 2012

maybe there is something in them that wants to go over the fence and they've figured out they cant, but being able to reflect on that and think 'geeze, my life sucks, I can't jump that fence', well, I don't know...........

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
10. It probably depends on
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:15 PM
Nov 2012

whether or not they know any different.

Most zoo animals aren't born in their natural wild habitat.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
11. Agree. If they are born in captivity, their frame of referance
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:21 PM
Nov 2012

will be vastly different than those born and raised to adulthood in the wild.

Individual animals, however, will have different reactions - just as some domestic animals have more wild instincts, so may some wild animals have more domestic inclinations.

hibbing

(10,099 posts)
12. depends
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

Hi,
I guess it depends on what kinds of animals you are talking about. I can't look at the big cats in zoos, they all seem to go psychotic with the pacing over and over and over.

Peace

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
13. It depends on your perspective, but many of the more intelligent animals such as
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:32 AM
Dec 2012

elephants often get very depressed when in captivity.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
15. Having worked in one I have to say it's different for different animals.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:16 AM
Dec 2012

When I did animal rehab we had a sanctuary/zoo for those animals that couldn't be returned to the wild. A HUGE and important part of the job was to try to keep them from going what I really would call functionally insane. But there's a lot required. A natural habitat, "puzzles" to solve with a food reward, companionship if at all possible, spaying and neutering, a varied diet, lots of things went into alleviating boredom and the nervousness engendered by being on display. Lots of prey animals are very timid and don't take well to being watched. The cats were actually fairly comfortable if we gave them a lot of variety. The wolves did well when together and poorly alone. Same for the bears, which I always thought was interesting since they tend to be solitary in the wild.

One of the things that would be best for the predators and raptors is something that nobody wants to talk about...they could stand to have something to kill. We used to give the raptors live mice now and then. It was hard to do but it was good for them and they actually do much better when they have bone and fur go through their systems.

I don't think any captive animal is completely "sane" in the way that no person who was kept forever captive would be like people who weren't, but I think some are content enough, and I am always heartened to see zoos that work hard to make habitats stimulating and as natural as possible. Elephants and primates may have the hardest time being as natural as they would in the wild, and they alwways make me a bit sad.

Kennah

(14,277 posts)
16. Whether wild or captive raised, I think there is wiring in an animal's DNA
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:23 AM
Dec 2012

On some level, I think every zoo animal knows or realizes that something isn't entirely right about this situation. Perhaps it's not unlike the life of Truman Burbank.

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