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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIf you don't like The Catcher in the Rye and A Confederacy of Dunces, you should be banned!
Because you're part of the problem, and by part I mean nearly all.
taterguy
(29,582 posts)LonePirate
(13,424 posts)I need to read it again to lighten my spirits after these dark past few days.
JVS
(61,935 posts)Remember when he made a protest sign out of his bed sheet? The other protesters kept looking at the stains on it and back at him.
The next funniest book I ever read was the Sot-Weed Factor by John Barth. He got into a fight buying stationery.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)I live in New Orleans . . . IMO, no other author has captured the 'yat' accent as well as Toole! So sad that he killed himself . . .
Codeine
(25,586 posts)has at least one - usually several - posters who are virtually indistinguishable from Ignatius J. Reilly in tone and in attitude.
MiddleFingerMom
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"Confederacy of Dunces" -- I've LOVED it each of the 5 or more times that I've read it.
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Truly genius.
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"Catcher in the Rye", even though I read it as a very rebellious teen... somehow failed
to catch the eye of my spirit -- and I've never tried to read it again.
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That's OK. MiddleFingerMomSis turned me on to Tom Robbins' "Still Life with Woodpecker",
saying, "If there's ANYONE who will love this... it's YOU!!!"
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I read 15 pages or so and put it down -- wondering if she knew me at all.
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Five years later, I tried it again and it's now in my Top 3 books ever.
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EastTennesseeDem
(2,675 posts)I remember reading it actually, my freshman year of college. It was the last day of exams for me (but not for most), so to unwind I took it to the library to read it.
I got so many dirty looks from people studying. I was absolutely disarmed and making a scene in the library because I was crying.
SEMOVoter
(202 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)It boggles the mind to think that someone .. anyone could NOT love these
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Thought the kid was so annoying.
I didn't read Dunces.
noamnety
(20,234 posts)I read it 35 years ago or so, and what I remember at this point is mainly such a high creep vibe off the main character that it was hard for me to read. I couldn't tell you any details or plot, so all that stuck with me was a large ICK.
Oh well, I guess not everyone needs to like every book.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)until I checked the web.
locks
(2,012 posts)You gotta love ole Ignatius Reilly and quirky New Orleans.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I think it was assumed by one teacher that we were going to read it the next year and by the next that we had read it the previous year, and I just never bothered to read it myself.
A Confederacy of Dunces, however, is a personal favorite of mine, bigtime.
The end of the world is coming... You'll regret it if you don't read it before then. Trust us. It's such insightful, poignant commentary on the artificial cliches and how the adult world is so depressing.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)not sure why Catcher wasn't part of my school reading back in the 80s.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)and I think it's just one of those pieces of art that has a lot more resonance to Boomers than more recent generations. Growing up in the postwar optimism and prosperity and the kind of wholesome popular culture that existed in the 50s, I can see how this depressed, foulmouthed character would have been a dash of cold water to teenagers that were just starting to figure out that the world was less sunny than they had grown up to believe. Add to that the frequent controversy over it being taught in school and the whole John Lennon thing, and it makes sense that it was a huge cultural touchstone.
Growing up in the much more coarse and cynical 70s and 80s, Holden wasn't telling kids anything they didn't already know, and he kinda comes off as a overprivileged preppie with no real problems other that grossly unrealistic expectations about life (and of course some variety of mental illness that is no picnic no matter how privileged you are). It's still a pretty good book for freshman/sophomore lit, since Holden is pretty witty and and likeable when he's not in the grips of depression, and it is well written. It's also a much easier introduction to the idea of an unreliable narrator than something like The Sound and the Fury or Lolita would be. Among people in my age range, opinions range from liking it to hating it, but I don't know anyone under 50 who had the "this book changed my life" reaction that you often get from Boomers.
Confederacy of Dunces though - comedy gold.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I read The Sound & The Fury, and loved it at the time. It was either Junior or Senior year of high school, which was mid 80s. And, the Catcher in the Rye was taught in my school system in CT, just never seemed to be my specific class.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)the coarse and cynical 70s.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Don't love Confederacy of Dunces. I read all the way through it trying, for the life of me, to find something worthy of the time spent reading. I never did.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)when I realized that the structure mirrored the undisciplined mess that was Ignatius.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Holden to be unpleasant and unlikeable.
Another nice ironic use is in the movie The Good Girl. Thomas Worther adopts the name "Holden" because he identifies with the character. Apparently, he is oblivious to the fact that his last name is almost identical to "Werther", Goethe's original model for moody and sensitive young men.
EastTennesseeDem
(2,675 posts)A lot of people are clamoring for it.
I wholeheartedly disagree. If you make it into a movie, you will inevitably lose J.K. Toole's voice, which is what made it so unbelievably hilarious to begin with.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)you have to love it, else kick to the butt
RedCloud
(9,230 posts)AnneD
(15,774 posts)I value my time. If it doesn't grab me by the first 20 page....I'm outta there.
I have made it through War and Peace, Dr Zhivago, most of Shakespeare, Lot's of scifi writers (I don't like Asimov strangely enough), the Greek and Roman classics etc. I read Catcher in the Rye...over rated and just couldn't get into Confederacy. But I read once and Future King multiple times and that is my fav.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)and she has also reread it numerous times.
AnneD
(15,774 posts)it set me back $0.95. read it in Junior High.
downandoutnow
(56 posts)Loved a Confederacy - one of the funniest books I've ever read, Ignatius is a great off-beat character, and at least I felt such a sense of humanity in the humor - we're not really laughing at the characters in the book, we're all laughing at ourselves?
But did NOT like Catcher - Holden was such a rotten trustafarian hipster type.