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Having a few cold ones with Will Shakespeare. Ask us anything. (Original Post) Aristus Jan 2013 OP
For starters, Iris Jan 2013 #1
To be. Aristus Jan 2013 #2
Hamlet crazy? Sedona Jan 2013 #3
Nah. He was faking it in order to throw Claudius off of his game. Aristus Jan 2013 #4
What does Aristus think about all the wild speculation over the years fleur-de-lisa Jan 2013 #5
Well, the speculation is not necessarily unfounded. Aristus Jan 2013 #6
Watch the Michael Wood PBS special. Graybeard Jan 2013 #13
I'll have to take a look at that. It sounds very interesting. Aristus Jan 2013 #14
It convinced me. Graybeard Jan 2013 #32
Do you or Will have any idea when I might feel like myself again??? CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #7
Will just held up his tankard and said: Aristus Jan 2013 #8
Please tell Will how much I appreciate his tender consideration! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #9
Will also apologizes about the crack a few weeks back Aristus Jan 2013 #10
Omigod, I'd forgotten that! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #11
Will and I left the tavern and headed to his place: New Place. Aristus Jan 2013 #12
But soft! What light through yonder window breaks? KamaAina Jan 2013 #15
It is the East. And Juliet is the sun. Aristus Jan 2013 #16
Will, what is your favorite movie adaptation of one of your plays? WI_DEM Jan 2013 #17
Kenneth Branagh's "Henry V" was pretty good. Aristus Jan 2013 #19
Aristus, Aristus, wherefore art thou Aristus? UrbScotty Jan 2013 #18
Why am I Aristus? Aristus Jan 2013 #20
Mayo or Miracle Whip? Grantuspeace Jan 2013 #21
Will doesn't go for all those fancy French sauces. Aristus Jan 2013 #24
shall I compare thee to a Summer's Eve? Enrique Jan 2013 #22
Are you calling me a douche? Aristus Jan 2013 #25
What is so rare as a steak in June? struggle4progress Jan 2013 #23
A barbecue not hot enough to cook it properly. Aristus Jan 2013 #26
Churchy LaFemme said: "Well, the 29th of February is plenty rare, but struggle4progress Jan 2013 #29
History, Comedy or Tragedy? Paulie Jan 2013 #27
Shakespeare should always be experienced in the original Klingon! Aristus Jan 2013 #28
How, why, were humans given the capacity to be so cruel at times? Denninmi Jan 2013 #30
'...and the women you will wow.' Graybeard Jan 2013 #31

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
4. Nah. He was faking it in order to throw Claudius off of his game.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:47 PM
Jan 2013

Orson Welles once remarked: " 'What a rogue and peasant slave am I' That's a divinely sane thing to say."

Will just said: "Welles was the best Falstaff ev-AR! Welles ROCKED!"

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)
5. What does Aristus think about all the wild speculation over the years
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jan 2013

that Shakespeare was, in fact, illiterate, and therefore, very unlikely to have been the author of the body of work attributed to him?

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
6. Well, the speculation is not necessarily unfounded.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:20 PM
Jan 2013

Will's father, John, was known to be illiterate, although it didn't prevent him from being a fairly successful businessman and local office-holder. For a time, he was High Bailiff of Stratford, equivalent to mayor these days.

And there's no record of Shakespeare's children receiving formal education. Although his children who lived to adulthood were both girls, who wouldn't have had much education anyway.

There is strong anecdotal evidence, although no direct evidence, that Will attended Stratford Grammar School. It was one of the best schools in England at the time, and the curriculum, which included mathematics, Latin, Greek, and astronomy, among other subjects, would challenge a modern college student.

Although no manuscripts of the plays exist in Shakespeare's handwriting, he is known to have been the author of the Sonnets and narrative poems attributed to him. So the charge of illiteracy is a pretty weak one.

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
13. Watch the Michael Wood PBS special.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:03 AM
Jan 2013

"In Search Of Shakespeare" is a wonderful investigation of his life. It puts to rest any speculation that he was not the author. Just two examples of his evidence:

Some of his characters have the same names as families in the town where Will grew up. Also references in a play to how someone was "like leather" able to be stretched and pliable. Will's father was a glover and worked with leather. Anyone else writing the plays would not have these references. Many more.

In Search Of Shakespeare-Michael Wood PBS (2004)
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Aristus

(66,381 posts)
14. I'll have to take a look at that. It sounds very interesting.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jan 2013

I've heard the textual evidence of knowledge of glove-making before. It's pretty convincing, if not 100% irrefutable proof. But then, I don't need proof like that. I have no doubts that Shakespeare is the man who wrote the plays attributed to him.

Thanks for the PBS recommendation.

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
32. It convinced me.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

I'd be interested to know how Will reacts to this journey back into his childhood, love life and turbulent career.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,629 posts)
7. Do you or Will have any idea when I might feel like myself again???
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jan 2013

This is just an excuse for a question.....I don't expect a serious answer!

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
8. Will just held up his tankard and said:
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jan 2013

"Pegeen, love! May your tomorrow be much brighter than your today. I kiss my hand at you!"


What a charmer...


Hope you feel better soon, CalPeg...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,629 posts)
9. Please tell Will how much I appreciate his tender consideration!
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:31 PM
Jan 2013

Thank you, my dear Aristus...I hope so too.....pretty sore today.

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
10. Will also apologizes about the crack a few weeks back
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jan 2013

about writing the role of Innogen in "Much Ado About Nothing" for you.

It was a lame joke.

Wait...he's still apologizing...

I think he's apologizing in sonnet form...

Oh hell, I'm not going to try to transcribe it. Suffice it to say, he is very eloquently sorry...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,629 posts)
11. Omigod, I'd forgotten that!
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jan 2013

Tell him that it's OK, no apology needed.........It's really an honor to be teased by such a famous writer!



I need to get some dinner together......Later!

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
12. Will and I left the tavern and headed to his place: New Place.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:06 AM
Jan 2013

Now enjoying some warmed rum, and watching the wind blow through the branches of the mulberry tree just outside the window.

Cozy...

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
16. It is the East. And Juliet is the sun.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jan 2013

It's a metaphor. Get it?

Truth is, Will never liked comparing women to the sun, or to a rose, or anything else obvious like that. He recommends the Sonnets to you. His descriptions of The Dark Lady are not necessarily flattering. Talk to Will about beauty, and he won't talk about how radiant, or entrancing, or spell-binding it is, but about how brief it is. How quickly youthful beauty turns to the decay of old age. He's kind of a buzzkill on the subject. But, as always, an eloquent buzzkill:

"Come kiss me, sweet and twenty;
Youth's a stuff will not endure."

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
19. Kenneth Branagh's "Henry V" was pretty good.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

The one with Lawrence Olivier was ridiculous. Yeah, it started out okay, showing what a play was like at The Globe, but Agincourt? Please! The battle was not fought on a croquet pitch in the bright sunlight the way it looks in Olivier's film! Branagh did it much better. Mud, blood, confusion, chaos. That was warfare back then.

Richard Loncraine's "Richard III" with Ian McKellan was mostly pretty good, bringing it into the 20th Centry like that. Back in my day, we rarely wore period-appropriate costuming. Too much research and tailoring to do when you've got three days to rehearse and prepare a play. I didn't like how old the principles were. The real Richard III was 33 when he was killed, not in his 60's, the way it looks in the film. Still, quite a good film.

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
24. Will doesn't go for all those fancy French sauces.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:30 AM
Jan 2013
Mayonnaise, like Dijonnaise, Hollandaise, and other sauces inspired by or named for European locations, stem from 19th Century French haute cuisine.

It's all a bit much for a guy who likes his Warwickshire comfort foods...

struggle4progress

(118,293 posts)
29. Churchy LaFemme said: "Well, the 29th of February is plenty rare, but
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:18 AM
Jan 2013

the 57th of November is even rarest."

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
28. Shakespeare should always be experienced in the original Klingon!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jan 2013


You should see Will: he just shot me a gesture that must be the local Warwickshire version of 'up-your-plumbing'...

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
31. '...and the women you will wow.'
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:07 AM
Jan 2013

.
MOBSTERS:

The girls today in society
Go for classical poetry.
So to win their hearts one must
quote with ease
Aeschylus and Euripides.
But the poet of them all
who will start 'em simply ravin'
is the poet people call
the Bard of Stratford-On-Avon.

Brush up your Shakespeare
Start quoting him now.
Brush up your Shakespeare
and the women you will wow.
Just declaim a few line from 'Othella'
and they'll think you're a helluva fella.
If your blonde won't respond when
you flatter 'er
Tell her what Tony told Cleopaterer.
And if she still, to be shocked, she
pretends well,
Just remind her that,
"Alls Well That Ends Well".

Brush up your Shakespeare
And they'll all kowtow.

Cole Porter
"Kiss Me Kate"

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