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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:51 AM Jan 2013

On a much lighter note, my LoL moment for the day.

Justin Bieber's bodyguard sues him for punching him and berating him. I think if you're a 'body guard' and you can't protect yourself from being beaten up by the Bieb, you don't deserve to call yourself a body guard. If you incur pain and suffering as a result of the Bieb "berating" you, you don't deserve to call yourself a body guard.

While I would love to see the smile on the judge's face as the "bodyguard's" lawyer makes his plea as to why his client's case should proceed to trial, I think our court system is already overburdened enough. BTW, I am a 53 year old mother of three grown children, and soon to be grandmother, so I'm not a fan of the Beib. I just know BS when I see it. I took Karate for less than a year 20 years ago, and I could put the Beib in a risk lock or a head lock, in a second after all this time, without either of us incurring permanent injuries. Now as for the hurt feelings, that may be a different matter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2260388/Justin-Bieber-beat-Teen-pop-star-sued-bodyguard.html

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On a much lighter note, my LoL moment for the day. (Original Post) politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2013 OP
I don't know... Xyzse Jan 2013 #1
My understanding about the unpaid wages, (from another article) was that the bodyguard politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2013 #2
I can agree that you can restrain someone Xyzse Jan 2013 #3

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
1. I don't know...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jan 2013

If I was a body guard and I had a client throwing a tantrum, who started hitting me. I'd probably take it, unless it was something that could seriously hurt.

I don't see the Bieb being able to throw effective knock down punches. I'd probably say that is possibly equivalent abuse from a diva slapping around their body guard out of temper.

Then, if you add the point that he supposedly hasn't got paid. Well, that might be the actual reason for this, and him getting hit is just incidental.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
2. My understanding about the unpaid wages, (from another article) was that the bodyguard
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jan 2013

after he quit (or was fired) "learned" that he may be entitled to overtime pay for his 14-18 hours days working for the Bieb. It appears the O/T wages wasn't an issue until after he no longer was working for the Bieb. If you are a 'professional' and not a novice, you should know what the laws are (regarding providing personal services) and what you're entitled to.

You should also know how to restrain an individual should you need to, if you're a bodyguard, or leave the room. If you don't, or you chose not to, for whatever reason, don't be a wuss after the fact and file a silly lawsuit saying the Bieb berated you and beat you up. This is not directed at you personally.

As I mentioned in my OP, I took Karate 20 years ago, barely for a year myself, but my kids did too for a longer period than me. One of the first things they teach you in martial arts and self defense, is to know when to use force and when to walk away, and I believe that has served my kids especially well in many aspects of their lives.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
3. I can agree that you can restrain someone
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

But, I don't know. I just think the guy was stuck in a bad situation.

Putting your hand on your client wouldn't be good.
If you're a body guard, you are paid to be there. He took the abuse dished by a spoiled brat.
Getting hit or punched does not mean that you get hurt, especially from someone like Bieb.

What I find funny about this whole thing is that the only guy he could hit, is someone he paid to guard him and can't put his hand against him.

I know how to restrain people as well, but as a body guard, putting your hand on a client is not something you can do.

http://www.thegloss.com/2013/01/11/odds-and-ends/justin-bieber-fight/

Like I said, when I picture this, I tend to picture a toddler throwing a tantrum and hitting an adult over and over. Ineffectual, doesn't hurt, but still abusive.

From what I've looked at, it seems he let himself get hit so that he doesn't hurt his client. Which to me is valid, and he did just leave without clocking the brat. I just think, like I said, the guy was in a bad situation. Either way, there is no way to win in that situation.

Any how,
I apologize...
I changed the tone of the thread. It should have been more lighthearted.
It is just unfair that an employer would hit their employee for doing their job.

Besides, I doubt that being "Beat Up" was the term used by the body guard. I think that was more the media's description.

I find that characterization unfair to those that risk their lives to protect someone else.
The guy is ex-israeli military. Could have wrecked Biebs with Krav. He just walked away.

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