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romantico

(5,062 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 04:09 PM Jul 2013

ATTN: Junk/Antique Experts. Need Help Identifying this 'whatchamacallit!'

Has anyone ever seen anything like this or know what it is? I may have posted this here before (I can't remember) I've had it for years,belonged to my Grandma who collected a lot of antiques and odds and ends. I photographed this a couple years ago after I cleaned it and it was very bright. I have no silver/brass polish so I could not clean it up and wanted people to see how it looks right now in case I try and sell it somewhere. Its bronze and stands about 5 1/2 inches tall. Looks like a mermaid design. Very ornate. My best guess so far is a page turner perhaps. Any ideas?

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ATTN: Junk/Antique Experts. Need Help Identifying this 'whatchamacallit!' (Original Post) romantico Jul 2013 OP
a key? sigmasix Jul 2013 #1
a key to another dimension???? Yavin4 Jul 2013 #16
Interesting romantico Jul 2013 #2
Just a guess: A shoe horn In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #3
wow. I have no idea. Viva_La_Revolution Jul 2013 #4
I think it's a knuckle-rapper petronius Jul 2013 #5
I romantico Jul 2013 #6
My first thought was that iti is a handle for a hand mirror, but I don't think so. hedgehog Jul 2013 #7
Papal back scratcher? NightWatcher Jul 2013 #8
Jesus trailer hitch tightener pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #9
Door knocker? elvisbear Jul 2013 #10
if you are signed up on ebay truegrit44 Jul 2013 #11
Lid lifter for a dutch oven. Lars39 Jul 2013 #12
Dead man on a stick ornament StanGr Jul 2013 #13
A very ornate coke spoon from the mid 80s olddots Jul 2013 #14
Ressurection of Christ Aerows Jul 2013 #15
It's called a 'Fenetra Callibrater'. From the Victorian Age. trof Jul 2013 #17
Well done! burnodo Jul 2013 #18
Thenk yew. trof Jul 2013 #19
Google search for "Fenetra Callibrater" goes nowhere. I've tried different spellings, and your wiki NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #29
Don't look now, but your leg is being pulled. trof Aug 2013 #31
But antiquie Aug 2013 #32
Try a physical therapist. trof Aug 2013 #33
A few sessions with the Pulled-Leg Evener should do the trick... pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #34
~ antiquie Aug 2013 #35
You may have gotten punk'd by trof earlier, but you were the first to 'get' this one pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #36
Bwahahaha! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #43
That's probably "fenestra" (latin for window) ... and the link goes nowhere. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #21
Are you sure it's not a brass magnet? petronius Aug 2013 #24
Did you also once work in a screw foundry of a USDoD contractor? Chan790 Aug 2013 #25
Find a reputable dealer in antique Victorian curios. trof Jul 2013 #20
Whoa! romantico Jul 2013 #22
DO NOT POLISH grasswire Aug 2013 #23
Antiques Roadshow also has a site where questions and photos are shown No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #26
You should post this hermetic Aug 2013 #27
British Antiques Roadshow on Ovation had an item similar csziggy Aug 2013 #28
Not a page turner. Can you identify the figure on the handle? Skakespeare or some royal figure? NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #30
Medieval Underwear Straightener pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #37
Holy backscratcher pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #38
It's a "marital aid". NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #44
Doorknocker? haele Aug 2013 #39
Any early reader of Mad Magazine would instantly recognize that object as a RushIsRot Aug 2013 #40
I agree with the guess upthread about doorknocker Duer 157099 Aug 2013 #41
Do not polish it up. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #42

romantico

(5,062 posts)
2. Interesting
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jul 2013

Interesting guess but not sure how it would work. Another possibility I suppose could be a pull like one you'd see on a hanging lamp or ceiling fan or something.I'm throwing guesses out here at random. I have no clue.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
5. I think it's a knuckle-rapper
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jul 2013

When kids get uppity, you whack 'em with the flat end to larn 'em some manners.


How about just a paper-weight? Looks like it might spread nicely over a stack of lose papers on a desk...

romantico

(5,062 posts)
6. I
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jul 2013

I don't think its heavy enough for a paper weight, but then again who knows.My first guess is it has something to do with a boat or nautical. I say that because of the mermaid figure I guess. I suppose it would display well.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
7. My first thought was that iti is a handle for a hand mirror, but I don't think so.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jul 2013

It does look similar to an Art Nouveau mermaid letter opener I saw on E-bay. So, could it be part of a dress set or desk set? It's tempting to see the hands as having held something, but I don't see how this would have been done without blocking the face.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
9. Jesus trailer hitch tightener
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jul 2013

For some hitches you can't use a spanner--you need a tightener that's holy different. And now, let us tighten...



truegrit44

(332 posts)
11. if you are signed up on ebay
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jul 2013

you can go to the main page click on community then go to discussion groups and then there are specific groups and you will find antiques. I bet if you posted it on there someone would know what it was. I personally have no idea.......

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. Ressurection of Christ
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jul 2013

ornamental piece. The Father is the piece at the bottom. It's designed to be a hanging piece is my guess.

trof

(54,256 posts)
17. It's called a 'Fenetra Callibrater'. From the Victorian Age.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jul 2013

From wiki:
"Fenetra Callibraters were tools, usually very ornate, used to adjust the opening of windows of the casement type or awning type. The windows had a metal fixture attached to the frame with a small ring for a grip. A finger could be used to adjust the window's opening, but using one's own finger was considered to be 'plebeian'.

Upper class English Victorians instead used the Fenetra Callibrater.
Nautical themes were popular."
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Fenetra+Callibrater&button=&title=Special%3ASearch

Yours appears to be a mermaid with her tail entwined in a kelp strand.
The bas relief face on the end is undoubtedly King Edward VII.
You're welcome.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
29. Google search for "Fenetra Callibrater" goes nowhere. I've tried different spellings, and your wiki
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:18 PM
Aug 2013

wiki link goes nowhere.

Please check it again, maybe it was an erroneous wiki entry.

Typically, it would be "fenestra" for fenestration or opening.

Also, I think the wealthy would have had people to do their window adjustments, so the idea that they needed this to do that seems questionable.

Not you, but whomever wrote it.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
36. You may have gotten punk'd by trof earlier, but you were the first to 'get' this one
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 02:03 AM
Aug 2013

You are hereby redeemed.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
25. Did you also once work in a screw foundry of a USDoD contractor?
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:04 AM
Aug 2013

I got sent on a wild goose chase for the brass magnet when I worked for one despite the fact that I kept telling people that brass isn't magnetic because neither the zinc or copper component of brass is magnetic.

I returned the favor by submitting a requisition for a dehydrated-water fire-extinguisher in case there was an electrical fire.

trof

(54,256 posts)
20. Find a reputable dealer in antique Victorian curios.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jul 2013

If your piece is solid brass (not brass plated nickel) it may be worth upwards of $75, 000.
Many (if not most) of these tools were melted down during WWI to make brass shell casings.
Yours may be exceedingly rare.

romantico

(5,062 posts)
22. Whoa!
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jul 2013

Whoa, thanks! At least I now have a name to go by. I would have never found that out so thanks alot!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
23. DO NOT POLISH
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:27 AM
Aug 2013

Don't you ever watch Antiques Roadshow??

Very often, the value of a piece is greatly cut by any polishing or refinishing or cleaning of the patina!

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
26. Antiques Roadshow also has a site where questions and photos are shown
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:31 AM
Aug 2013

Antiquesroadshow.com.
I also agree - Do not polish - at least at this time.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. British Antiques Roadshow on Ovation had an item similar
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 04:41 PM
Aug 2013

The appraiser was not sure what it was, but thought it might be a mirror handle minus the mirror. The one they had was of a naked female figure and the overall size was much shorter appearing than yours.

In another segment on a different episode there was a mermaid item - not sure what it was, I wasn't paying much attention. But the appraiser mentioned that French mermaids had two legs until they merged for the tail while English mermaids had a single tail from the body down. From that, your item may have been French made.

Sorry I don't have more info - Ovation suns the old BBC Antiques Roadshow episodes weekdays, three or four per day. I tend to have them on in the background while doing other stuff. You might check Ovation episode listings to see if you can find more information. I know the episodes I saw were this week, probably Wednesday or Thursday.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
30. Not a page turner. Can you identify the figure on the handle? Skakespeare or some royal figure?
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 01:30 PM
Aug 2013

That could be the main clue, and secondly the mermaid motif may help solve the puzzle.

I don't think it's a window adjuster, but it may have had a purpose in a library or on a ship.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
41. I agree with the guess upthread about doorknocker
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 12:39 AM
Aug 2013

The arms would slip into loops and swing.

I bet it originally was designed not as a mermaid but as Jesus, and they'd put them on their doors so that when people would use them, they'd say "Jesus is knocking at your door."

Probably modified the design to a mermaid when they needed a secular version.

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