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TBF

(32,017 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:26 PM Oct 2012

Ecuador Remembers Che Guevara -



Ecuador Remembers Che Guevara on the 45th Anniversary of his Assassination
2012.10.04 - 09:19:08 / web@radiorebelde.icrt.cu

Ecuador Remembers Che Guevara on the 45th Anniversary of his Assassination

HAVANA, Cuba.- Several activities, some of them presided over by Brigadier General (r) Harry Villegas (Pombo), a Cuban comrade in arms of Commander Ernesto Guevara, will honor the Heroic Guerrilla in Ecuador, on the occasion of the 45th anniversary of his assassination.

Pombo, as Che referred to him on his campaign diaries in the Congo and Bolivia, will give a lecture at the Ecuadorian Culture Center in Quito on Friday, in which he will tell about his experiences during the years he shared with the legendary Latin American revolutionary, the Prensa Latina news agency reported on Wednesday.

Participating in the meeting will be writer Raul Perez, president of the Center; Jorge Rodriguez, Cuba’s ambassador to Ecuador; and Rosa Mireya Cardenas, secretary for Peoples, Social Movements and Citizen Participation of the host country.

A book on anecdotes of the years they fought together, entitled “Pombo, un hombre de la guerrilla del Che,” (Pombo, a Man of Che’s Guerilla) will also be presented in that South American nation ...

More here: http://www.radiorebelde.cu/english/news/ecuador-remembers-che-guevara-on-the-45th-anniversary-of-his-assassination-20121004/
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white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
2. Wow, just wow.. I'm not even a fan of Che and I think what you wrote is stupid.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
Oct 2012

He was engaged in a war, so of course people died. By your logic George Washington is a serial killer and a sociopath. There are plenty of valid criticisms of Che, but you didn't list any good ones.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
10. not exactly
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jun 2014

He was Castro's chief executioner, because that was the only thing he was actually good at. Was he a sociopath? It was well known that he was a serial rapist. After he executed Eutimio Guerra, he wrote to his dad: “I’d like to confess, Papa, at that moment I discovered I really like killing”.

And no, George Washington did not did not joyfully execute political prisoners like Che when he was in charge of La Cabaña prison.

TBF

(32,017 posts)
11. And why did you pull up this very old post to go off on?
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jun 2014

Is there some reason you're doing this?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
12. just stumbled on it and had to put in
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jun 2014

my two cents. While I'm a fan of Bernie Sanders, I'm not a fan of Che.

TBF

(32,017 posts)
13. You "just stumbled on" a 2-yr old post?
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jun 2014

And you've been here since 2006?

I've got some ocean-front property in Lubbock if you're interested ...

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
14. seriously,
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jun 2014

I was researching something for a different post, in a different site, and it came up on the first page of Google.

TBF

(32,017 posts)
15. Here are our tos for this group -
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jun 2014

please tread carefully. We are not friendly to imperialists in here.

TBF

(32,017 posts)
3. Willing to listen to valid, intelligent criticism -
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:18 PM
Oct 2012

what you've put here is just status-quo ranting.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
5. Seriously, it's annoying.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 04:47 PM
Oct 2012

Like I said there are some valid critiques of Che, but calling him a sociopath isn't one of them.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
4. Please read the pinned post entitled "Welcome Comrades" up at the top of the forum.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:32 PM
Oct 2012

This is safe haven group from USAmericentric imperialist brainwashing.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
6. This was a review of a book about Che.........
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:29 PM
Oct 2012

that I thought was pretty good. It made me want to read the book anyway.

I guess it would help if I provided the link right?

http://www.workerspower.net/che-guevaras-legacy

TBF

(32,017 posts)
7. Nice treatment of Che
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 08:08 AM
Oct 2012

Thank you for this. Exactly what I meant by intelligent criticism. The argument of course is reconciling the authoritarianism/paternalistic nature of Che with his anti-imperialist agenda. As promised in the welcome statement above I'm not going to go into commentary on that. Suffice it to say that we may have criticism but we can't doubt his sincerity and strength in rallying against capitalism and that aspect of Che is what I find appealing in the man - and certainly the aspect that led him to be killed. Imperialism does not take kindly to such dedicated resistance.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
8. Hey T, just because we can't bring personalities..........
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:52 AM
Oct 2012

into the mix, doesn't mean we can't debate respective positions relative to those personalities. And the last part of your post is EXACTLY what I find appealing about Che Guevara also. NO one doubts the sincerity of his beliefs and his determination to bring those beliefs into fruition. Now, tactics and a theoretical understanding of classic Marxism? Yeah, I'd probably argue that with Che himself, but I would do it on a basis of respect for his side of the argument.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
9. Onto the topic of Che himself...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:24 PM
Oct 2012

I think the biggest flaw in his theories, and this can apply to others as well, Mao's People's War springs to mind, is that his Foco Theory focuses too much on warfare. It may very well be a good tactic for wining a war, but that won't be enough to bring the working class to power. Still though, I can't question his sincerity.

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