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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:05 PM Feb 2015

I just got back from a trip to California

I attended my first photo workshop at the Salton Sea. From wikipedia:

The Salton Sea is a shallow, saline, endorheic rift lake located directly on the San Andreas Fault, predominantly in California's Imperial and Coachella valleys.

...

The modern sea was accidentally created by the engineers of the California Development Company in 1905. In an effort to increase water flow into the area for farming, irrigation canals were dug from the Colorado River into the valley. Due to fears of silt buildup, a cut was made in the bank of the Colorado River to further increase the water flow. The resulting outflow overwhelmed the engineered canal, and the river flowed into the Salton Basin for two years, filling the historic dry lake bed and creating the modern sea, before repairs were completed.[2] While it varies in dimensions and area with fluctuations in agricultural runoff and rainfall, the Salton Sea averages 15 miles (24 km) by 35 miles (56 km). With an estimated surface area of 343 square miles (890 km2) or 350 square miles (910 km2), the Salton Sea is the largest lake in California.[3][4] The average annual inflow is less than 1,200,000 acre feet (1,500,000 dam3), which is enough to maintain a maximum depth of 44 feet (13 m) and a total volume of about 6,000,000 acre feet (7,400,000 dam3). However, due to changes in water apportionments agreed upon for the Colorado River under the Quantification Settlement Agreement of 2003, the overall water level of the Sea is expected to decrease significantly between 2013 and 2021.[5]

The lake's salinity, about 54 g/L, is greater than that of the waters of the Pacific Ocean (35 g/L), but less than that of the Great Salt Lake (which ranges from 50 to 270 g/L). The concentration increases by about 1% every year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea


Here are a few from the trip... I took so many images yet had so few keepers. Need to improve on the ratio.

Day 1:

Came across a squadron of pelicans.


Then did some sunset shooting


Then sunset turned into night


Day 2:

Of course I had to photograph something abandoned


Then I found a kitty and we bonded a bit


Then we had some free time, so we hunted down this landscape


Then we had another sunset


And that sunset turned into another night shoot


Day 3:
I haven't processed those yet... but there was more abandoned stuff on day 3.

It was a fun (and affordable) workshop and an interesting area to photograph. It was my first trip to the west coast (prior to that, Kansas was the furthest west I'd been) and I wasn't prepared for the desert heat and how bright the sun is off the salt flats but I learned a lot and made some new friends.
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I just got back from a trip to California (Original Post) justiceischeap Feb 2015 OP
Seems to me that you did really well! These are all excellent. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #1
Thank you! Is it not so hot on the coast? justiceischeap Feb 2015 #13
It is generally much cooler on the coast! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #28
The average high in February is in the 70's down there CreekDog Feb 2015 #37
Very nice! elleng Feb 2015 #2
Thanks! justiceischeap Feb 2015 #14
These are beautifully ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #3
Thank you! justiceischeap Feb 2015 #16
When I recover from this stroke ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #27
I've actually been to Brawley which is right at ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #30
I actually stayed in Brawley for most of the trip (last night in Palm Springs) justiceischeap Feb 2015 #31
Aha - thanks. It was ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #33
I'm pretty certain these two images are from the same block of stores justiceischeap Feb 2015 #38
It is a great ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #39
Nicely done! Blue_In_AK Feb 2015 #4
Thank you Blue justiceischeap Feb 2015 #24
Well, these are beautiful, Blue_In_AK Feb 2015 #35
Beautiful shots, jic! I use to live in Indio, Cal in the '80s.. I've been to Salton Sea and to a Cha Feb 2015 #5
Oh man! You saw the sea at it's finest then justiceischeap Feb 2015 #17
I've always found the Salton Sea interesting. These are excellent photographs. NBachers Feb 2015 #6
Here's a KQED docu about the Salton Sea justiceischeap Feb 2015 #18
Your Photographs Are Astonishingly Beautiful! Leith Feb 2015 #7
Thank you! justiceischeap Feb 2015 #19
I've acclimated Leith Feb 2015 #34
Oooh, that last one is stunning. Aldo Leopold Feb 2015 #8
Thanks! nt justiceischeap Feb 2015 #20
Very nice job! keep 'em coming 7962 Feb 2015 #9
Thanks! I'll post some from day 3 tomorrow. nt justiceischeap Feb 2015 #25
WOW....great photos. Thanks for sharing. n/t madamvlb Feb 2015 #10
You're welcome and thank you! nt justiceischeap Feb 2015 #26
NICE shots! Triana Feb 2015 #11
Thanks! justiceischeap Feb 2015 #23
Quite an experience for you Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2015 #12
It was great justiceischeap Feb 2015 #22
Wonderful images! logosoco Feb 2015 #15
I was worried about the kitty justiceischeap Feb 2015 #21
Great shots NV Whino Feb 2015 #29
Thank you! justiceischeap Feb 2015 #32
These are top notch! Snarkoleptic Feb 2015 #36
Very nice. calikid Feb 2015 #40
Great shots OnionPatch Feb 2015 #41
Thanks! It is indeed a very bizarre place justiceischeap Feb 2015 #42
CA has other wetlands, but a great deal have been lost... Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #44
Salton Sea is one of my favorite bizzaro places, since first visiting as a child the place is the Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #43
I kinda want to make it my life's mission to visit justiceischeap Feb 2015 #45
Beautiful! Particularly since you can't smell the place. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #46
Thanks! justiceischeap Feb 2015 #47
Yup. You definitely don't want to make those pics scratch'n'sniff. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #50
Some outstanding shots! Solly Mack Feb 2015 #48
Thank you Solly! nt justiceischeap Feb 2015 #49

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
1. Seems to me that you did really well! These are all excellent.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:12 PM
Feb 2015

I especially liked the sunset pics and the into night ones.

Well done!

I look forward to seeing more.

Next time you come out to California, come on out to the coast......we have a lot of great sights out here too.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
13. Thank you! Is it not so hot on the coast?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:09 PM
Feb 2015

I was expecting a max of 70 degrees during the day but it was close to 90 all three days (better than the East Coast but still, it's hot in the desert!).

I came away not entirely impressed with California (did I mention it was hot!) but I keep telling myself I can't judge a very large state on a very small area.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
28. It is generally much cooler on the coast!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:34 PM
Feb 2015

Also, the humidity is somewhat higher so you don't feel as though your skin will flake off!

The Salton Sea area is NOT typical of California.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
37. The average high in February is in the 70's down there
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:58 AM
Feb 2015

but almost any day during the winter down there can hit the mid-80's and near 90 in the winter is not unheard of.

I wouldn't judge all of California by the Imperial Valley and even less by the Salton Sea, which isn't even a natural feature.

California has a few deserts and the Imperial Valley is probably the least scenic of them. There's Coachella Valley, the Mojave Desert, the high desert that straddles the border of far Northern California and Northern Nevada, and all these are really beautiful in their own desert way.

I also hope you'll come to California again, because I'd love to see the photos you could produce in other parts of the state! Because I really like this set!

elleng

(130,959 posts)
2. Very nice!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:15 PM
Feb 2015

Some in there would be suitable for February contest that ends today. Topic: Keep it SIMPLE!!!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
14. Thanks!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:09 PM
Feb 2015

I made an entry for the contest. I'm sure it'll be recognizable because of this post... so much for anonymity.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
3. These are beautifully
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:38 PM
Feb 2015

executed photographs. The compositions and exposures are superb. I particularly like the third one down and the black and white landscape.

Do tell more about the workshop please.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
16. Thank you!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:12 PM
Feb 2015

The workshop is run by Keith Skelton of California Photography Workshops. He knows the area well and has several different workshops. He's a heck of a nice guy too, so that helps and he actually instructs instead of having other photographers pay for his personal photography trip (I've heard stories of this happening).

And since you asked, I'll post the link so you don't have to hunt it down. I didn't want to come across as an advertisement for Keith when I initially posted.

http://www.californiaphotographyworkshops.com/Workshops.html

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
27. When I recover from this stroke
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:31 PM
Feb 2015

and can walk and hold my camera I want to take a workshop and a trip out west - probably for the last time.

I appreciate all the info and again, congratulations on professional grade photographs. I took 4 semesters of photography and can't always get what I want, but I learned enough to know outstanding photography when I see it.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
30. I've actually been to Brawley which is right at
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:47 PM
Feb 2015

the Salton Sea. It was about 20 years ago. There was a small one hitching post town that sold tee shirts in the one store that said "where the hell is ......" but I can't remember the name of the town. Do you know what I'm talking about?

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
31. I actually stayed in Brawley for most of the trip (last night in Palm Springs)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:06 PM
Feb 2015

But I didn't see anything like that. We were pretty exclusively in and around the Salton Sea and there wasn't a heck of a lot of "tourist" attractions to speak of.

Let's see... I was at Palm Springs, Brawley, Mecca Beach, Niland, Calipatria, Bombay Beach, Salton City, Salton Sea Beach, Desert Shores, Salvation Mountain, Slab City and East Jesus--we were very, very busy. From what I understand from the instructor, there were things that were there last December that weren't there in February. The place is forever in flux.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
38. I'm pretty certain these two images are from the same block of stores
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:58 AM
Feb 2015




Of course, there's an identical block of stores across the street so I could have it wrong.

That's a great image!

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
39. It is a great
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:51 AM
Feb 2015

image. It could be the same block -=it was pretty rough when I was there but it was interesting.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
5. Beautiful shots, jic! I use to live in Indio, Cal in the '80s.. I've been to Salton Sea and to a
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:49 PM
Feb 2015

Hot Springs(out in the middle of nowhere) that was close by.

You certainly did it justice!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
17. Oh man! You saw the sea at it's finest then
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:13 PM
Feb 2015

And for me that's when it's first falling into disrepair.

Thank you, BTW.

NBachers

(17,119 posts)
6. I've always found the Salton Sea interesting. These are excellent photographs.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:03 PM
Feb 2015

Two movies I've seen:

1. The Monster that Challenged the World

2. Salton Sea

Leith

(7,809 posts)
7. Your Photographs Are Astonishingly Beautiful!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:16 PM
Feb 2015

I live in the Mojave Desert but I come from Michigan originally. The scenery here out west has a drama to it. It sounds like the workshop was a great experience.

Thanks.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
19. Thank you!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:15 PM
Feb 2015

I don't know how you stand the desert... This pale skinned woman is not cut out for the heat.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
34. I've acclimated
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:37 PM
Feb 2015

I'm so light skinned that I glow in the dark so I stay out of the sunlight. When I do go out, a lightweight longsleeve shirt is the way to go. And, of course, sunglasses. But I made a vow when I moved here: I will never shovel a driveway or scrape ice off a car again in my life. So far, so good.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
12. Quite an experience for you
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:59 PM
Feb 2015

and great for us because we get to see some incredibly beautiful photos. Thank you so much for posting them.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
22. It was great
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:18 PM
Feb 2015

I'm quite an introvert, so the was the hardest aspect of the workshop for me (being around people ALL.THE.TIME!) but we were with a great group of people and I was actually there with some members of my local photo group I go out with. I'm glad you like the images.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
15. Wonderful images!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:10 PM
Feb 2015

Love how the trees and shore line look like bright day light, but the stars are shining in the night sky.
And you caught that kitty laughing!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
21. I was worried about the kitty
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:16 PM
Feb 2015

She never fully opened her eyes. I hope it's because it was so bright there and not a health issue. She helped ease my separation anxiety from my own kitties.

Thanks!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
32. Thank you!
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:07 PM
Feb 2015

It was my first interaction with live pelicans. I've seen them on TV but never in real life.

calikid

(584 posts)
40. Very nice.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:15 AM
Feb 2015

To have one keeper from a shoot is great, you had more than that, you should be very pleased with the results.
I've been to the Salton Sea one time, photographing California for the Dept. of Agriculture. Even though I was in a plane a mile and a half in the air, it was June and VERY hot.

Again, great work

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
41. Great shots
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:52 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Isn't the Salton Sea one of the most bizarre places you've ever been? We're about an hour away and head down there sometimes when we want a change of scenery. It's a great place to watch birds, too, if you can get a little upwind of the dead fish odor.

I have a friend who works with some agencies that are trying to have it restored but who knows what the future of the Salton Sea will be.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
42. Thanks! It is indeed a very bizarre place
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:29 PM
Feb 2015

Particularly East Jesus.

It would be nice to see it restored because as I understand it, Salton Sea is the only Wetland left in the state of California. I know there are agencies that no longer want water diverted for the purpose of keeping it full. Of course, they aren't thinking about all the salt and such flying all over when there's a dust storm. Ick!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
44. CA has other wetlands, but a great deal have been lost...
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:26 PM
Feb 2015

"According to the State of the State’s Wetland, there are approximately 2.9 million acres of wetlands in California today. Although vast, this represents only 10% of the estimated historical extent of wetlands. The numbers in the graph are from a more recent estimate of modern wetlands that uses new data. This estimate sets the total to about 3.8 million acres of wetlands, which is about one million more than the previous number, yet still less than 20% of the historic wetland extent."
http://www.mywaterquality.ca.gov/eco_health/wetlands/extent/

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
43. Salton Sea is one of my favorite bizzaro places, since first visiting as a child the place is the
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:20 PM
Feb 2015

definition of the uncertain destination.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
45. I kinda want to make it my life's mission to visit
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:19 PM
Feb 2015

other bizzaro destinations in the US... maybe create a book from them. Of course, who would buy that.

SunSeeker

(51,564 posts)
46. Beautiful! Particularly since you can't smell the place.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 01:53 PM
Feb 2015

I haven't been to the Salton Sea In 15 years. I imagine the bird poop smell and condition of the water has only gotten worse.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
47. Thanks!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:27 PM
Feb 2015

I didn't notice the bird poop smell but there was a rotting smell that couldn't be overlooked.

SunSeeker

(51,564 posts)
50. Yup. You definitely don't want to make those pics scratch'n'sniff.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 03:14 AM
Feb 2015


But your pics make me want to go back. That says a lot.
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