Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumSo the Pope just said on the plane that he was getting ready to leave and on his way out Bernie was
Standing there!!! whaaaatttt......
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Sure it was all official as BS confirmed earlier!!
still_one
(92,366 posts)lost face big time
Andy823
(11,495 posts)It was nothing more than a casual greeting and a handshake, but he can now say he DID meet the pope, although he seems to be exaggerating the whole thing to make more than what it really was.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... as he'd led everyone to believe. That's deceptive.
pandr32
(11,605 posts)Of course the Pope was gracious and shook his hand...that's it! No "meeting" at all.
LuvLoogie
(7,021 posts)No fucking way! He really DID groupie-stalk His Eminence?!
BlueMTexpat
(15,372 posts)of truth ... not.
"Truthiness" perhaps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Tanuki
(14,920 posts)Whose son in law is an investment broker for Goldman Sachs?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/fashion/weddings/31sachs.html?_r=0
That Jeffrey Sachs? Probably. He was present when Sanders accosted the pope.
SunSeeker
(51,658 posts)Sachs is still Sanders' "foreign policy advisor," right?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)ABC News says he and Jane met w/ Pope @ Vatican
Won't save his bid to destroy Democratic party
blackdove78
(35 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)... press release at face value. Now they've got egg on their faces.
The Pope's own words "he knew I was coming" are fairly believable, I'd say.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)a) Sanders was staying at the same Vatican guest house (probably along with the other participants) as the pope. So it was a matter of waiting in the lobby of the guest house at the right time; essentially a 6 am ambush (though one to which the pope was surely alerted ahead of time).
b) Sachs (a Sanders advisor whom I've now lost complete respect for) was obviously heavily involved in arranging both the conference invitation and the "rendezvous". Note that Sachs not only attended the rendezvous, but discussed the rendezvous, by speakerphone, with the reporters traveling with the Pope to Greece!
Shameless political exploitation of this event: tacky, tacky, tacky. And also the actions of a political wannabe, not the political maturity of a future president.
These are not the actions of someone who understands the nuances and consequences of global diplomacy, either.
http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/francis-meets-bernie-sanders-briefly-discuss-climate-change
Sanders had arrived at the Vatican Friday for a brief visit away from the campaign trail to address a conference on building a more moral economy. The question of whether the candidate would meet the pope had hovered over the trip, with some criticizing the Vermont senator for politicizing Francis.
Jeffrey Sachs, an American who had helped organize the Vatican conference, told reporters traveling with the pope on speakerphone from Greece that Sanders used the meeting to thank Francis for his environmental message and his recent encyclical Laudato Si'.
Sachs, the director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University, said those present for the meeting also included Sanders' and Sachs' wives and Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of the Sciences.
Sanders had spent Friday night at the Santa Marta guesthouse. Sachs said the candidate met Francis at about 6:00 am in Rome, just before the pope headed to the airport for a one-day visit to Lesbos.
Note that the president of the Pontifical Academy (fyi, of social sciences, not "the Sciences" , Margaret Archer, who offered blunt criticism of the inclusion of Bernie on the program, was not there for that early-morning encounter.
This 24-hour fossil-fuel-wasting political exploitation adventure is so objectionable on so many levels .
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Sachs is a smart and well-respected visionary on poverty issues. Too bad he didn't see how silly this entire Bernie Goes to Rome episode would become. Sanders surrogates are a real problem for him.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)"When the Pope doesn't invite you to the Vatican, you get up early and get a good place in the morning ropeline." - Jane Sanders to Andrea Mitchell
liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)Bernie Sanders is a Stalker.
nini
(16,672 posts)She does NOT like the Pope being used like this. Old BS may be a bit surprised that the old die-hard Catholic Dems aren't buying this crap one bit.