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Related: About this forumWhy Can't Hillary Clinton Lock Up the Nomination?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/482229/Bernie Sanders may be on the verge of a winning streak. After defeating Hillary Clinton in the Indiana Democratic primary, the Vermont senator notched a win in West Virginia on Tuesday, and appears well-positioned for a victory in the upcoming Oregon primary.
That will allow Sanders to claim momentum. Its also likely to help the campaign pull in a fresh flood of small-dollar donations from energized supporters. Still, none of that changes the fact that Hillary Clinton has effectively sealed off a pathway to the nomination for Sanders. To get technical, it is no longer mathematically possible for Sanders to win enough pledged delegates in the remaining primary contests to win the nomination.
never ending of BS hope not
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Of the remaining delegates.
I'd say she's got the nomination locked up.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)And only 23 percent actually believe he will win,
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)...
These voters are armed with statistics to argue that Sanders is well-positioned in the race, but they may be engaged in wishful thinking.
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For one thing, Sanders has not been subject to the same kinds of negative attacks as Clinton, precisely because he has not been viewed as a frontrunner. If that were to happen, his standing in polls would almost certainly drop. Its a phantom advantage, Putnam said.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Hillary Clinton will Lock Up the Nomination no question in my mine.but he is getting on my nerves.she shouldn't have had to go though this .....but she's tough and smart enough to deal with anything that comes her way...we cant wait to vote for her in Nov.....
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Where the hell did Barack Obama come from?
Trump???
Bernie. Some states tailor-made to a clever campaign - unrealistic, but clever.
A quarter of a billion dollars clever.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)caquillo
(521 posts)So I hope that bodes well for Hillary. If anything, I hope it's a virtual tie, so it becomes a wash for Sanders. I would prefer her to win (by double digits, if possible), but I would take the former scenario than have Sanders win by large margins.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,176 posts)1. she doesn't need to
2. she doesn't want to alienate his supporters
3. She is trying to save money...which is why Sanders has heavily out spent her
Now Sanders is out of money and it's all over except for the whining.
Cha
(297,723 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)That's why she put so much time and resources into those early primaries with lots of delegates.
The only variable they couldn't account for was how long a loser who is losing BADLY would opt to stay in the race to assuage their ego. Not even the most-ardent Sanders opponent could have imagined they'd be fighting the Black Knight from Monty Python.
texstad79
(115 posts)Demographics are destiny. The demographics of NJ and CA portend landslides for HRC.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)saw a bit of her rally on MSNBC.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)but the title is a bogus false premise. She can't make Bernie Sanders drop out and he certainly should not drop out unless he wants to.
The Democratic Party system, especially with California going near last, makes it VERY difficult to clinch the nomination mathematically until most or all of the states have voted. It also makes it very difficult to actually change the race. So it lands in this vortex where it's difficult for either candidate to boost their delegate totally significantly, meaning we already know the results aren't going to change, but that the person who won can't put it away mathematically.
Which comes down to Bernie conceding, or not. He chose to go through the last states, which is fine. It's not a reflection on her that he did that. The story is pointless.
On the Republican side, if Texas hadn't voted yet, and Cruz hadn't dropped out, they'd be writing the same story about Trump (who also mathematically hasn't clinched yet. His opponents just quit).
It's a canard and mildly sexist, because I've seen repeatedly the leap from Nomination isn't clinched -> Why can't Hillary close the deal -> Hillary is weak...all of which is nonsense that would not be ascribed to a male candidate who had won by more than double digits nationally. It's really comical.
skylucy
(3,743 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Hillary, as a woman, has to prove herself doubly to get the same recognition as a man would. That's what is happening here.
If Hillary were a man, I don't think there would be any question. Sanders has no mathematical way to win the nomination. (Yeah, yeah, if he wins 98% or whatever of the remaining delegates...blah, blah, blah...it's not going to happen.)
She should be recognized as the presumptive nominee. But the media still treats Sanders like he's got just as much of a chance as she does. After WV, where he netted a whole 18 delegates, I saw breathless headlines about his "momentum" and "big win". WTF? He's down 3m votes, 300 pledged delegates, even more in total delegates, and has NO WAY TO WIN THE NOMINATION.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)In 2008, Hillary stayed in past the California primary; she received more popular votes than Obama during the primary season. She was also closer to Obama in pledged delegates then than Bernie has been to her since Super Tuesday. She was a stronger candidate in 'o8 than Bernie is now by every measure. Yet, I do not recall ANYONE asking why Obama couldn't close the deal. Funny that.