Wesley Clark name hinted for Hillary's VP by Rachel

[northoftheborder]

Clark will appear on O'Donnell's show tonight

[NanceGreggs]

1. I'm a BIG Wes Clark fan ...

... from way back.

Thinking about it, it would be a "good fit" on many levels.

[GP6971]

3. I am too.

Was a volunteer on his campaign. And I served in one of his commands.

[fun n serious]

2. I think he would be perfect!

[Kingofalldems]

4. Nice. Instant gravitas.

Trump will then go get Col. Bo Gritz, militia boy.

[Ilsa]

5. I like Gen. Clark. What has he been doing lately?

I know he's divorced, living in Arkansas.

I know he has some unfavorable history regarding the School of the Americas, but he is also very experiencsd and very intelligent. I think he might be her best choice.

[fleabiscuit]

6. Hammer Time!

[Ilsa]

8. What? I don't understand. nt

[fleabiscuit]

16. Oh it's just text turrets when my Chi is disturbed.

[Hekate]

34. Tourette's

Altho I have to admit "text turrets" has a certain something.

[TwilightZone]

36. lol, agreed

I was like "what the hell?" until you posted that.

Though, I admit I didn't put a lot of thought into it.

[fleabiscuit]

38. See!

[KewlKat]

9. to my knowledge they never divorced

and I was told they were back together.

[Ilsa]

12. Okay, thanks. NT

[MADem]

23. That's because Gertrude wouldn't cooperate. I can't say as I blame her one bit.

I hadn't heard they were back together, but that Shauna Mei business--even if it's over--is disqualifying.

As is his age. He's 71. The VP needs to be "The Future." Not the past--and not the divisive past, certainly. The only reason Obama got away with an old VP is because he was youthful and lacked experience. Biden was playing Cheney to his Bush, if you will forgive the horrific analogy.

HRC needs to pick a young up-and-comer. Someone who thinks on their feet, takes direction well, doesn't go off message, is camera-friendly, knows when to zip it and knows how to give a non-answer answer when needs must.

She doesn't NEED any "experience" on the ticket, and certainly not his. She was the damn Secretary of State--the most SENIOR position on the entire cabinet, senior to Defense and all the rest of the players. She's got way more experience than Clark, and he has some hard negatives that the right wing would love to drag up (militarily-related, having nothing to do with his messy private life). He is just not on the short list, no matter what TV pundits say.

[KewlKat]

7. clarkie here........i had

u-wes-a.com and us4clark.....you might remember Ice?

I wonder if Gert would go for it?

[Ilsa]

11. I think they are divorced.

I could be wrong, though.

[6chars]

17. after the Paula Broadwell affair, that is hardly surprising

[KewlKat]

18. wikipedia

still shows her as the CURRENT spouse. I know he filed but I heard they got back together.

Gert I think would be against his taking any office. She got very upset with the smears they through at him the last time. It was her that said no to the second run much to all of our disappointments.

[Kingofalldems]

20. Says here they are still married and together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark#Personal_life

[BootinUp]

15. Jim4Wes still here just a different handle. nt

[northoftheborder]

10. Clark supported Hillary in '08......

.....and I think he has remained an inside friend of her family and perhaps unofficial advisor....I remember the day she went back to her Senate office after the primary and convention, the first person she met there was Wesley Clark. I've been a little surprised though that he has not publicly campaigned for her this time, though, as far as I know.

[BootinUp]

14. He campaigned for her in Iowa.

[BootinUp]

13. Just saw him on on O Donnell. He gets my support any day

I supported him in 04.

[MADem]

19. NEVER. Never, never, NEVER.

Yes, he is a strong supporter, but his negatives are impossible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389919/General-Wesley-Clark-68-STILL-divorced-wife-46-years-blindsided-left-her.html


He dumped his lovely, kind, highly regarded and long-suffering wife of a half century for a Chinese woman young enough to be his GRANDDAUGHTER. She is in her early thirties, a former Goldman Sachs banker, who now calls herself an "entrepreneur."

Update: Shauna just got married--to her partner at her business. She and Wesley parted ways: http://pagesix.com/2016/04/23/shauna-mei-has-a-new-soulmate/

As near as I have figured out (and I could be mistaken) Wes and Gertrude (she was a very nice lady the few times I met her) aren't divorced (notwithstanding what the article above says) --there's a bit of Catholicism in the way of all that.






He's not an easy person to get along with. He can be ... imperious. I had a few encounters with him when I was on active duty, and it is my considered view that he's not the best choice for the job. Also, he's too old (71). There needs to be some youth and vigor for a bit of balance on the ticket, and a guy who is in his seventies with a way-too-young girlfriend doesn't provide that balance.

I would be both shocked and disappointed if she chose Clark for the number 2 gig.

[TwilightZone]

25. Aw, dammit.

[BootinUp]

30. I sincerely doubt it would happen nt

[MADem]

31. He can be very helpful to her, but not on the ticket. nt

[TwilightZone]

33. Agreed.

It brings back a lot of good memories, though. And a few bad ones that aren't his fault.

[Hekate]

37. Very interesting

[COLGATE4]

21. I think he would make an excellent VP for Hillary. I don't know that much

about where he's from. What State would he be liable to bring to our side in the GE?

[BootinUp]

22. He's from Arkansas raised there still lives there I think.

Born in IL I think.

[COLGATE4]

28. Thanks. Now I remember. That's one thing that might mitigate

against him being VP. Normally the idea with the VP is to bring along an important state that the candidate can't get on his/her own.

[TwilightZone]

24. Aw, man, don't tease me like that. Huge Clark fan.

I had to leave DU for a couple years because I got really pissed at how many of us were treated. I'm having flashbacks.

lol

[BootinUp]

26. I thought I recalled you were

a clarkie in 04.

[TwilightZone]

27. Yeah, the first time I was in the HCG (after eight years away from DU), I recognized a few names...

from the olden days.

Also noticed since then that a couple of them are now rabid Sanders fans. Kind of a bummer.

[BootinUp]

29. I changed my username

was Jim4Wes back then and there was a forum site called DU Clarkies I used to hang out at. We missed out on a great Prez. Would hae beaten old dubya I still think.

[TwilightZone]

32. Nice! I remember you....

I seem to recall spending some time in DU Clarkies and/or another site whose name escapes me that was set up by another DUer, but I got so frustrated with how Clark fans were treated by the mods here that I kind of swore off political sites completely for a while. I came back around '08 but didn't stay all that long.

I'm not really sure why I'm back now, frankly. I picked about the worst possible time to return, though I'm slowly realizing that it's becoming an outlet for my ever-present, inherent sarcasm. haha

Now, I have to stay if only to see what they do with the place post-6/14. I hope (and believe) that Skinner is going to wield the banhammer with abandon, so maybe it can become a halfway tolerable place to be again.

[BootinUp]

39. DU Clarkies was started by incapsulated

She set it up real nice looking, she had some graphical skill. There were like 4 of us that ran it together, WesDem was another. After the 04 campaign was over a bunch of folks joined from here, but it quieted down a lot after a few months. Can't recall if you were a member there but I definitely remember you here at DU.

I seem to recall we were considered invaders here, lol. It was the Deanies v the Clarkies v the old timers.

I am also looking forward to seeing what happens here after the Primary.

[TwilightZone]

41. Yep, that's it. She sent me an invite. I joined and hung around for a while, but it was about

the time I'd had it with this place, so I really didn't contribute much or for very long even though it was a refuge from here.

A lot of the animosity here had to do with Clark being a former moderate Republican, of course, and the Deanies and the others never really accepted him as a Democrat. The funny thing was that after he dropped out, he campaigned like hell for a ton of down-ticket Dems and was a great asset. We knew he would; no one else did. lol

Like anyone, he has his faults and the internment thing was a little odd (though, he apologized), but still love the guy. I hope he helps again this fall. He would hand Trump his ass on foreign policy.

[BootinUp]

42. He definitely has the FP chops. Hope he can pitch in. nt

[bluestateguy]

35. That's who I supported in the 2004 primary

He was against the Iraq war from day one.

And he wouldn't put up with any of Trump's testosterone chickenhawk crap.

[BootinUp]

45. Watch this video for old times sake!

[still_one]

40. I am a Wesley Clark fan, but I think he might be too old

[msongs]

43. not as old as bernie, still not the best move for the democrats' future white house aspirations nt

[still_one]

46. exactly

[TeamPooka]

44. No. He represents the past not the future. nt

[blue neen]

47. Aw, man.

Love Wesley Clark. It's probably better, though, that we get someone younger on the ticket. As others have already said, we need someone who represents the future.

[JustAnotherGen]

48. Personal Level - I adore him

Strategic Level - No.

Does he want to - No.


We have some really excellent Gen X politicians on our side - and I'd like to see someone in that role who bridges Gen Y/Millenials and Boomers/Silents.

I'm not saying we are NOT Cynical Assholes - we are. But on the left we seem to have a stake in both our older folks (Social Security - Giving Women Seniors a desperately needed Raise) and how college debt impedes commerce (Getting married, buying homes, having children, traveling) for the Y's.

He's not the bridge.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

49. Hope not! Too old and not progressive enough to bring

the young folks on.

[SharonClark]

50. He'd be good on the stump for Hillary

But he's too old to be veep.

[lunamagica]

51. I wanted him as her VP in '08, but I'm not sure anymore

His age is an issue, and a lot of things have changed since then

[book_worm]

52. Sorry we need someone more up to date and exciting to younger voters

Wes would have been a great candidate in 2004.