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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:41 AM Jun 2016

We are seeing the separation growing in the polls between hillary and trump

and the polls are yet to reflect how poorly trump is actually doing and this horrible down ballot effect. I still wish the big push against trump would start after their convention. Really don't want to give him or the conservatives time to change nominee...they see the writing on the wall and its not pretty for them....and there is still time to bail on on their part

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We are seeing the separation growing in the polls between hillary and trump (Original Post) beachbum bob Jun 2016 OP
Maybe it's good our primary took so long! Gave the GOP time to get stuck with a dud! Her Sister Jun 2016 #1
They can't change the candidate. He is being defended BootinUp Jun 2016 #2
They could. If they make a deal with him behind spooky3 Jun 2016 #5
They aren't going to change candidates, they are going to run two seperate campaigns. Walk away Jun 2016 #3
Dumping Trump would be a good thing for the Ds. stopbush Jun 2016 #4
I don't know why the lipless wonder thinks everyone spooky3 Jun 2016 #6
They are caught! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #7
totally agree though I don't think the percentages are as high...40-50% range more likely beachbum bob Jun 2016 #10
73% of Republicans... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #12
Sorry. Much closer to 90% and I'm being conservative Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #14
Ain't that the truth. Cha Jun 2016 #18
I don't think it matters whether they dump Trump or not. They've already been stained by him. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #8
I don't feel 5he least bit sorry for them Cary Jun 2016 #9
Hillary has become the presumptive nominee and as expected has risen in the polls. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #11
And most of the current polls were started before it was official. It should continue to get eastwestdem Jun 2016 #16
No pity for GOP....they get what they deserve. northoftheborder Jun 2016 #13
"I still wish the big push against trump would start after their convention." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #15
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #17

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
2. They can't change the candidate. He is being defended
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016

on the tube quite a bit because they have no alternative.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
5. They could. If they make a deal with him behind
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

The scenes to withdraw (for money he probably needs), he's free to do that. Then they could choose someone else.

But I suspect his massive ego loves the adoring crowds and potential power even more than $.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
3. They aren't going to change candidates, they are going to run two seperate campaigns.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

One for Trump and another for every other republican running!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. Dumping Trump would be a good thing for the Ds.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

Who do they replace him with? One of the also rans who lost to him in the primaries, or some totally untested and unvetted person who would been seen as a usurper? Paul Ryan, who was a horrible candidate for VP?

The Rs are in a no-win situation, and they know it.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
6. I don't know why the lipless wonder thinks everyone
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

would be thrilled with him as a candidate after the 2012 campaign loss, but the narcissism is strong with this one too.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. They are caught!
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jun 2016

The primary voters picked Trump. The Republican "establishment" can't ditch him without breaking the party.

50-70% of Republicans don't consider what Trump says as racist or bigoted. Possibly, 50-70% of Republicans are racists and bigots! But we knew that!

Trump is the gift that keeps on giving!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
10. totally agree though I don't think the percentages are as high...40-50% range more likely
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jun 2016

but those 40-50% are zealots and they do vote, they are racists and trump reflects there morals and values


30 years of cultivating the hate is paying off for conservatives....many thanks to Newt Gingrich, rush limbaugh and foxnews....Im enjoying their heads exploding with trump

karma is a real mofo'ker

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. 73% of Republicans...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

have a favorable view of Trump. Most recent poll.

Hillary has 76% Democratic favorability. Bernie is 78% without 3 decades of bashing.

Pgs. 15-16:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/06/09/fox-news-poll-national-releas-6-16/

Cha

(297,323 posts)
18. Ain't that the truth.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:57 AM
Jun 2016



West Wing Reports
✔ ??@WestWingReport
Fair to say that the only person now standing between Donald Trump and this room is Hillary Clinton
1:13 PM - 3 May 2016
101 101 Retweets 96 96 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/05/03/president-honors-the-2016-national-teacher-of-the-year-and-finalists/#comments


Stonekettle ??@Stonekettle
Tell me again how you're not going to vote
7:33 AM - 2 May 2016
147 147 Retweets 120 120 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/05/02/mic-drop/#comments



https://theobamadiary.com/2016/05/03/chat-away-819/



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=164395

yallerdawg
 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
8. I don't think it matters whether they dump Trump or not. They've already been stained by him.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jun 2016

The major GOP figures who have sat back and allowed the hateful bigot show to continue with nary a protest all co-own his remarks now. He made them under the GOP banner, for which they are all responsible. The questions about those ideas and policies and the sentiments behind them don't just go away, especially since Clinton's campaign will be linking them to other GOP policies as "almost as bad as {Trump's idea}."

The GOP needed to stop Trump before he got this far. Now it's just too late.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
9. I don't feel 5he least bit sorry for them
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jun 2016

One would hope they would learn something this time beyond the usual "not conservative enough" b.s.

Leopards don't change their spots, their demographic will just keep dying off.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
16. And most of the current polls were started before it was official. It should continue to get
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

better for us as the party unites.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
15. "I still wish the big push against trump would start after their convention."
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

You and me both!

OTOH, if they tried to change horses in mid-stream, I think the party would splinter apart irreparably.

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