MSNBC Live just reported that Bernie Supporters on line are flooding the internet with sexist....

[Walk away]

misogynistic posts that makes it logical for Hillary to play the "Woman" card! That's the first time I have ever heard Bernie's supporters called out on the air that way..

They even said that Bernie should get his supporters under control because they are really hurting him.

It came right before Hard Ball started. I will try to get the segment but if anyone finds it, please post it.

The perfect answer to "Bernie isn't sexist"....maybe... but apparently the media has noticed that many of his supporters are, and are loud about it!

[leftofcool]

1. I saw that and they are doing exactly that!

It is just sad and pathetic what Bernie's supporters are doing to his campaign. It is no wonder he can't get past the 25% mark.

[willvotesdem]

103. Bernie supporters? It's the internets silly, could be anyone even HRC supporters! eom

[brush]

2. It was going to be noticed sooner or later. It's not just on DU

[riversedge]

14. I see it alot on twitter.

[Agschmid]

74. I posted an image I took at Hillary event on Instagram...

And immediately was rudely called a name, I blocked the person and moved on with my day but it was annoying.

[Historic NY]

3. What a bunch of childish assholes............

who are they getting this from Dear Leader.

[TheFarseer]

52. did you just call Bernie Sanders Hitler

And me an asshole? Wow!

[Cha]

68. Settle down.. no one is calling you anything.

[Duppers]

54. Wow! Ever consider this could be a "false flag" operation?

Smart, evil cookies.

[Cha]

69. What, are you suggesting they're not BS supporters? they already have a rep on the net. Who

would it be.. O'Malley supporters?

[XenaAmazon]

100. Who would benefit the most?

"Would it be...O'Malley supporters?"
(Please tell me that's a joke!)
Who benefits? Republicans. Don't put it past them. We already know that the Kochs are spending unbelievable amounts of dark money on this election.
I've seen outright lies posted about HRC. (I'm a Bernie person, but I'll vote for whichever Democrat takes the primary). Purported democrats are posting they will either stay home or write in Bernie's name rather than vote for Hillary.
Please, guys, think about this. Who stands to benefit? It's not O'Malley. It's the Republicans. They specialize in character assassinations.
Is anyone else old enough to remember Lee Atwater?
When he was dying of brain cancer, he had pangs of conscience over the tactics he used to get Reagan elected. He admitted that he used every dirty trick, every sleazy tactic he could think of. He admitted to using lies, slander, etc. And Atwater was tame compared to the Koch brothers.
The same family that founded and bankrolled the John Birch Society founded and bankrolled the Tea Party. They have used every smear tactic at their disposal against Obama. When it comes to Clinton, they've already said it will be gloves off.

[Cha]

110. It's BS Supporters.. I've seen it all over the net.

[bravenak]

4. I just turned to it.

I hope they repeat it. It will prove my points.

[Historic NY]

5. I sent him a tweet...I believe in reach out and touch someone....like your florist!!

@BernieSanders Apparently the MSM is reporting on your petulant children

[bravenak]

7. Good Job!!!

I need to find that story and tweet it to him.

[glinda]

44. How do we know it is his children?

[Cha]

64. LOL... Thank you!

[Cha]

6. Great! They're being called out like that.. Wow.. wtf are the bernies saying?

[BootinUp]

8. We NEED THE VIDEO!!!!!!!! LOL>

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. Just like with BLM, his supporters haven't reached acceptance yet. It makes him look bad. That's..

the problem with pulling all of these "former" Libertarians into left leaning politics. They don't know how to behave unless someone "leads" them.

"These gender dynamics could have an unfortunate downside, however. Sanders went after Clinton hard in his speech Saturday night, and his supporters cheered every word while the Clinton supporters sat in silence. Sanders supporters are a diverse crowd, but as Suzy Khimm of the New Republic notes, a huge amount of his support comes from an Internet-savvy, cantankerous crowd of young men. It’s a crowd that’s already swapping conspiracy theories about a media plot against their candidate, as Khimm writes:

That question became pressing after the first Democratic debate aired on CNN in mid-October. When pundits everywhere hailed Clinton as the winner, and others (myself included) argued that Sanders had fallen short, the subreddit and every other social media channel went crazy with allegations that media was in the bag for Hillary Clinton. “Bernie wins EVERY poll yet CORPORATE MEDIA declares Hillary the winner !!!” one Sanders fan told me. “Are you blind or just bought? Grow a pair and admit the truth,” another wrote to Slate’s Josh Voorhees. Conspiracy theories rapidly proliferated, alleging that major outlets were deliberately undercutting Sanders by suppressing favorable poll numbers and deleting pro-Bernie comments. “We have an explicit example of the corruption of money in politics,” one Redditor wrote last week. “Time Warner is a top donor of Hillary Clinton and they own CNN, and CNN is censoring Bernie Sanders to alter his message.”

http://www.salon.com/...

I can't believe they think this shit helps BS. This is the sort of crap you expect from online gamers.

[Cha]

17. I think they can't help themselves.. and don't really give a shite if it helps BS or not.. it's all

about them.

[Tarheel_Dem]

67. Agreed. n/t

[Fred Sanders]

10. I dunno. I would suspect the vast majority of these on-line folks are Tea Folk finding yet another

outlet for their anger, which is really anger at themselves for being such losers with only a gaggle of losers to choose from.

"On-line" means anonymous and this kind of conclusion, that these are Bernie fans, is not my conclusion.

[GusBob]

12. Whomever they are

I am starting to believe they ain't democrats.

Now the cool thing to say is: the polls don't count me 'cuz I never voted before!

[Fred Sanders]

13. Some might be Democrats, look at the Kentucky marriage clerks, but who knows? Who knows?

This shouldn't be something to get too outraged about and pin on a group of Democrats, not without empirical evidence these folks are really Bernie fans, which is impossible.....does not really compute.

[Walk away]

16. I'm not outraged. I'm glad that it's finally being reported....

I believe it's true and it really is going to cut into Bernie's numbers. I frankly think he deserves it. He made the poll numbers pandering to these folk and now he is stuck with them.

[GusBob]

18. I agree

They could be trolls, some Indys, some Greens, some disrupters, some Dems


Nothing to get too worked up about.

The rhetoric is gonna get heated up here soon, next week and after the next debate

[2naSalit]

104. with a little help from some

"friends"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016135850

[LuvLoogie]

49. Yeah, I don't know if I could admit to being 27 and never having voted.

Then whining about how "Politicians don't speak for me! Noone inspires me."

Whatever.

[upaloopa]

53. That's what we said about on line polls but

then it wasn't true.
What ever favors Bernie is true what doesn't favor him is a lie. This campaign will be written about after the election and Betnie fans will not like what is written.

[fleabiscuit]

109. Dang! Where is that 'LIKE' button? Very good. n/t

[bluestateguy]

11. Disgusting

nt

[Thinkingabout]

15. We have been accused of many things, many of which has been started by the supporters

and are still being accused of starting the stories. They have ramped up the attacks as Hillary's poll numbers have risen.

[Starry Messenger]

19. Good.

Perhaps Sanders will finally call off the hounds. This is the 21st century, even a single tweet can be a news story. It's entirely due to media goodwill that these vicious floods of bigoted attacks haven't become more of an issue. This will follow him around until he gets it under control

[Walk away]

20. Many people in the media hate Bernie supporters....

columnists, news producers and on air personalities have been bombarded with hate mail and even veiled threats from Bernie supporters. We, here in the Hillary Group, are familiar with the tactics. At least here on DU there is a barely effective system to filter out the worst of the vileness. These poor reporters are getting attacked whenever they report facts that don't support the Bernie world view.

[Starry Messenger]

21. I usually watch Chris Hayes, who has turned into a Bernie fanboy.

I didn't think about the others in the media who are getting "the treatment" Good point!

[Walk away]

22. I have a bunch of clients who work for or have worked for....

MSNBC. There has been talk about Bernie supporters for months. I've been waiting for it to start spilling out.

[Starry Messenger]

26. Ooooo.

Interesting...! You know that if supporters of HRC had been tweeting and posting vile crap for months, we'd all be on the front page of the NYT in the doghouse. I'm sure we will be blamed when the bad behavior finally gets national attention, for some reason.

[Walk away]

28. No. I think everyone knows where it's coming from.

Even folks in the media who favor Sanders get some serious hate mail from folks supporting Bernie. The big deal was when Hillary won the 1st debate. Everyone who reported it got a barrage of hate on the Facebook pages, emails and their own blogs.
One of my clients told me that it reminded him of the RW hate when Obama won in 2008. Really mad!

[Hortensis]

105. ..."reminded him of the RW hate when Obama won". Interesting.

I've been trying to figure out who these people are ever since I moved to Democratic Underground trying to get away from the worst of the behaviors exhibited by right-wing reactionaries.

According to one Pew evaluation about political types in general, I suspect at least two of the socially right-wing but economically occasionally liberal political orientations that they identified are represented here. Attacking in packs is behavior very typical of strong social conservatives, as is hostility toward anyone who isn't one of them.

[Walk away]

31. Did you notice that Hayes said the Hillary would win the nomination!

He may be in the bag for Bernie but at least he is in touch with reality!

[Starry Messenger]

34. Uh oh, hate mail, incoming!

I haven't watched yet tonight, I'll keep an eye out. I do like his analysis and coverage, so his tone lately has been a bit abrasive to me, but I'm glad he's still on planet reality.

[Walk away]

35. He did a great interview with a girl who witnessed that poor girl....

getting abused by the police officer.
The Hillary thing was off hand but clear!

[BootinUp]

41. Shocking video

suspect the officer has other serious underlying issues to be revealed.

[Walk away]

42. Watch the Chris Hayes interview. This guy was a real.....

Dick!

[riversedge]

80. I have noticed that also.

[GusBob]

24. Hmmmm

Yes we are all corporate puppets.....Or enemies of the state

[Cha]

81. We're both. According to some people. LOL

[joshcryer]

30. IMO it's not on him.

It's on the supporters who act like it's no big deal or who are in denial about how bad it is. It's really fucking bad, and when I tell supporters this they get all offended and pissed off. I'm a Sanders supporter, that does not mean I can't recognize some nasty behavior within Sanders "supporting" groups (and there are some in the Hillary camp as well, of course).

It's not an insult, it's not trying to tear down supporters, it's just saying, hey, we gotta reign this shit in. Thankfully Reddit's Sanders group is realizing it and trying new stuff to reign that shit in. I wish DUer's would realize it is a really big problem. It's not an insult, but it will be taken that way. It's good to note that there are bad apples in a group, and it's good to try to work on it, even if there are some in the group who won't change. At least trying it will work.

[Starry Messenger]

32. Well, I'm glad you guys are taking it on, but this is really a leadership issue.

People look to their guy to get cues about what they need to do. If the behavior is rising to the level of an actual media event, it's going to get asked about to Bernie directly on a show. Then what?

And respectfully, it isn't just a matter of reining it in at this point. Now that people know what is being "reined," it's kind of tough to unring that bell.

[Walk away]

37. It would actually make a great debate question.

If Bernie is a populist and if he is really running a grass roots campaign, why can't he control his campaign? I'm going to write it in to MSNBC for their debate. It's a long shot but it might put an end to the worst of the Nazi/sexist threads.

[Starry Messenger]

38. I like your style.

[Cha]

79. You never know.. it's not like it hasn't been news for awhile now. It's just still going on and

no end in sight..

Thank you!

[Rose Siding]

85. He may be a populist but his campaign and supporters look like anarchists

[joshcryer]

78. Just wanted to say, internet stuff is not IRL stuff.

Not trying to be dismissive at all here, but I'm involved in IRL stuff and the internet stuff is 1000x more beyond the pale. The internet brings the worst out in people.

And I really don't think Sanders can denounce the internet stuff because the IRL supporters will feel like he's denouncing them, either directly, or indirectly because they're incapable of actually doing squat about what internet slacktivists do or say.

I realized this when some Reddit Sanders "supporters" came out and said they'd support Trump over Hillary. Fuck it. It's not possible to reason with these internet nobodies...

But yeah I know it's an issue I just don't see Sanders himself denouncing it will do much if any good at all. I'm not opposed to him trying, mind you, but I don't think it's on his radar. If he was Lessig or something I could see it being on his radar, but he's not that kind of person that I think would be that focused on internet BS. I think he actually might be insulated by his campaign staff in a way, and that's not too bothersome because a lot of politicians are not internet savvy.

So I can't rag on Sanders for not knowing this is happening or not responding to it. It is, unfortunately, what it is.

[Starry Messenger]

89. The Internet is real life too Josh.

Real people are saying things to other real people, and it is having a real life effect.

That's all I have left to say on the subject, however.

[Hortensis]

106. I don't know IF Bernie feels they work more to his benefit

or do not, but I suspect it is beyond a leader's ability to impose moderation on a type that is wired to be immoderate, hostile toward outsiders, and unreachable by reason that contradicts a cherished belief. I suspect we have a lot of social conservatives in that group wired to hostility toward outsiders, as well as the more expected left wing ideologues who see everything in black and white.

We may need to cut Bernie a break here. He also has followers who behave pretty much as any of Hillary's do. These others are a different sort of person, or different types of persons. And would we want him to cut them loose, to support maybe Cruz or Rubio, even if he could?

[Starry Messenger]

107. Some of them run his campaign's regional Twitter accounts.

I've seen some very intemperate remarks from some that were *representing* the campaign. Even if they are volunteers, and not paid staff, he could at least rein those folks in.



Who knows, maybe this is the kind of person he attracts, and he doesn't see anything wrong with it. I was actually trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he'd want to halt that kind of thing.

[Hortensis]

108. Well, you provide a partial answer to my own question about

what he would want to do, Starry. He is obviously himself wired to be strongly...focused in vision and unwilling to compromise and thus may be slow to realize how damaging this kind of stuff is.

I think we can at least observe that he does attract this kind of person, though. That's settled, whatever it might mean.

[bravenak]

25. Might be better to post this for the Bernie Group to see. They usually are not here.

[BootinUp]

27. you're kill'in me. lol.

[Walk away]

29. There is a SARCASM smiley!

[okasha]

33. They went public on themselves

when the BernieBus contingent walked out of the Iowa JJ dinner.

We've seen the same comments here on DU, possibly by the same people.

[mcar]

36. Yes

Wait for the DU Bernie contingent denial in 3 2 1

It's all Shrillary's fault!!!

[workinclasszero]

40. Yes they exposed themselves to the entire democratic party at the JJ dinner

And that was a big, big mistake on their part.

I believe it marks the beginning of the end of Bernie Sanders attempted takeover of the party.

[workinclasszero]

39. Truly pathetic but we have seen the arrogance and heavy handedness, right here on DU

for months!

Bernie's followers have been out of control for a long time.

Ride the tiger Bernie, its really hungry.....

[Eric J in MN]

43. What garbage!

I can say, "Hillary Clinton supporters are flooding the internet with sexist messages."

No evidence needed. Just a bogus accusation against unnamed people.

Pseudo-journalism.

[Walk away]

50. You should contact MSNBC with that.

I'm just the messenger. I'm sure "Live" has a blog that you can contact.

[Cha]

62. No, it's not garbage.. I believe it.. BS supporters have built their reputation across the net..

starting with attacking #BLM activists.

[drm604]

45. How do they know that they're Sanders supporters?

Even if they are, there's no reason to believe that they're anything more than a small percentage.

[Walk away]

47. Don't ask me, ask the reporters on MSNBC Live!!!

[DinahMoeHum]

46. Ever consider the possibility that the "posters" are ratfuckers?

Just sayin'.

[Walk away]

48. You need to contact the reporters about that.

I am just posting what they said on the air!

[BootinUp]

56. rofl

[Walk away]

58. Stop laughing you little rolling smiley.....

I am trying to keep a straight face!!!!!!

[upaloopa]

57. We have no reason to resort to those tactics

because we are winning.
It is time we admitted that being a progressive liberal Democratic Socialist or what ever does not translate to sainthood.

[Cha]

63. Oh, they're "ratfuckers" all right.

[RandySF]

51. I've seen a few on DU as well.

[BootinUp]

61. Yeah

maybe several.

[Duppers]

55. Shame, MSNBC. nt

[Cha]

65. NOPE. Shame on the bernie supporters.

[Walk away]

70. You should email MSNBC how you feel about them!

That should help

[Duppers]

71. Will do. We ALL should!

Thx.

[Walk away]

72. I agree with them so they don't need to hear from me! nt

[Gothmog]

59. Sanders supporters are really hurting their candidate

This is not the first time that other have seen Sanders supporters hurt their candidate. A Sanders supporter on this board told me that I was a bad parent because my children were supporting Hillary Clinton. These comments have no impact on who I am voting for but the concept that you can persuade someone to vote for your candidate by attacking them is not a good move

[Walk away]

60. But yeah! They are losing so....good for us, the country and the party!

Bernie can run for President of Scandinavia and his supporters can move there, pay 50% Income Taxes and 17% VAT tax.

[Cha]

66. Yep. It's contagious.. almost everyone gets it. A notable few I've seen.. are not defending the

majority's behavior.

[Gman]

73. This is the story that likely will be the end of Sanders

Too bad, too but it was inevitable. He has a good message that needs to be heard but his own supporters are causing him defeat. And the loss of his message in this election.

[demosincebirth]

75. I like Berne Sanders, but many of his supporters are costing him dearly.

[Cha]

76. It was bound to backfire at the velocity they've been hurling.

[demosincebirth]

77. Yup.

[William769]

82. Talk about a campaign going down in flames.

[BainsBane]

91. Damn. For the first time in forever I actually wish I had cable.

[72DejaVu]

83. Well, what did you expect in a revolution?

While the rest of us are engaging in an election campaign, they claim to be staging a revolution.

Elections are conducted under mutually agreed to terms and conditions.

In revolutions, there are no rules or ethics other than victory for your side.

[workinclasszero]

88. "In revolutions, there are no rules or ethics other than victory for your side."

Sound like the Berniebros alright, good point.

[rbrnmw]

84. Bernie supporters are mansplaining to me about sexism

I was told I as a woman am sexist for voting for Hillary because she is a woman, that's the only reason I am voting for her. I was also told I was wrong to have recognized a mistake Senator Sanders made by saying "all the shouting in the world" to a woman immediately. I was told I only said that after Hillary said it which isn't true. They weren't sitting in my living room when I said he shouldn't have said that. I am just a liar who hates my own children and future grandchildren by voting for a woman just because she is a woman.

ETA I am voting for Hillary for many reasons being a woman is just a plus. Bernie's supporters helped me make that decision by the way they treated African Americans.

[Cha]

86. I'm voting for Hillary because she's the best candidate. And, I sure as hell don't owe BS

supporters any explanation. Always trying to get all up in everyone's personal business..

Smacks of desperation.

[rbrnmw]

87. It is desperation

[workinclasszero]

90. As Bernie falls down the polls

Magic thing really takes hold of the berniebros

Clicky click spam polls are what they believe in and placing all their faith in age groups that hardly ever show up to vote.

Oh and actually believing that President Obama and Bernie are exactly the same charisma wise and with the same ability of inspiring speech.

LOfreakinL these people are sooo delusional!

[mak3cats]

92. No link for this? Couldn't find anything via Google either.

Unrec for lack of proof.

[Walk away]

94. Lucky me! I have friends at MSNBC. I should have it by the weekend!

It could take a few days because they are pretty busy there now. But I promise you that I won't only post it here for you but I'll make sure it get's a big thread all to itself with the proper title line!

[Cha]

96. I just told the unrec guy that your OP is proof and he just didn't want to hear it. Denial isn't a

good thing.

Thanks again, Walk away.

[Walk away]

97. That's ok. One of my friends who is a producer say's he'll send it tomorrow...

It always takes him longer though because they are understaffed and it's busy. If somebody shoots someone or blows something up or whatever, they have to work day and night. They don't put "Live" broadcasts on their site so I think you have to know someone to get copies.
It might be fun to have because I could post it in GD too.

[Cha]

98. Thank you so much for getting that for the unbelievers!

[Cha]

95. The OP is proof.. you just don't want to hear it. Too bad. Denial isn't a good thing.

[Cha]

99. It doesn't matter how many posts you have in here.. one or a dozen.. if you Unrec you're

outta here.

This is Hillary's Group. We support our Team.

If a Hillary supporter went into the BS Group and wanted "proof" and unRec.. they would be Blocked, too.

So don't act like it's only Hill's Group that would do that.

[Walk away]

93. Many people saw it. But, luckly I may be able to get a hold of a clip....

directly from MSNBC. Hold your unrec for a day or two.

[Thinkingabout]

101. Their time could be better spent getting the needed signatures in each state for Sanders to get on

the ballot, apparently some are thinking this is the job of the DNC. We have to work for our candidate if we truly feel this is the candidate we want to get elected, too damn much whining and not enough time winning.

[Metric System]

102. It's the He-Man Hillary Haters Club.