What is really surprising that is going unchallenged on DU... The attacks on other Democrats

[liberal N proud]

There are all sorts of posts against any Democrat that supports Hillary of late on DU.

This never would have been allowed to stand in previous elections. It is just astounding IMO.

[DesertFlower]

1. it was bad in '08. we had obama supporters and

hillary supporters. it was nasty, but not as bad as this time.

[still_one]

17. No one spammed anyone's Facebook or web page because they didn't agree with an endorsement in 2008

[fourcents]

2. Personal attacks I am against but mentioning facts I am all for lets not confuse the two please.

Personal attacks I am against but mentioning facts I am all for lets not confuse the two please. This should strengthen them against GOP future attacks?

[Thinkingabout]

26. How is throwing other Democrats under the bus gong to strengthen either candidate?

[fourcents]

37. When its facts on the issues it not attacks. This is the primaries right.

[Cha]

39. that's not what she asked.. you don't throw Dems Under the Bus just because they don't support

your candidate. Hillary supporters don't do that.

[Cha]

42. Don't worry, no one is "confused" around here. thanks anyway.

[MelSC]

6. Why aren't they being banned?

This message board is horrible, it seems like it's been taken over and run by rabid Bernie supporters. It's seriously become unpleasant. There are no fair arguments made just name calling and making posts personal. It's like the majority of the board is made up of middle school kids.

[workinclasszero]

9. Juries are always packed with BS fanatics

And nullified.

I'm about ready to get out of here for good. It's sickening to see democrats savaged by the bro army.

[MelSC]

13. The fact that he hasn't been a Democrat very long

Makes me resent the hell out of him. You do know most of his demographic are young millennial males right? I bet the older ones were Nader voters or the same silly purists who like to whine and complain about DINOs all day. (I've actually been here longer than my profile says, I had another profile name back in 2004 on here when we were going insane over GWB, I remember people bashing Kerry then too...when I came back in 2008 I had forgotten my old username and didn't have the same email). This crew has always loved to bash their own, but it's taken a new obnoxious level.

Maybe in Bernie's mind he thinks this is what our party needs? I still think he seems too nice to really want his followers to act like idiots like this. I usually just post during election periods because I finally have to leave and take a breather from some of the crazy going on.

Don't know you well but you seem like one of the nice ones and it's a shame that the quality nice members feel like they want to leave and nothing is being done. Are the mods just apathetic at this point?

At least we know the majority of our party doesn't post on here and we probably have more allies than we think. I guess we will see after this primary!

[liberal N proud]

25. Spends his career fighting Democrats until he wants to stir the shit

His supporters are an extension of that.

[LiberalAndProud]

32. That is an untruth.

Bernie has been a reliable ally for the Democratic party all of his career. For those of you who resent his late coming to the party, understand that for many, that is an asset to his campaign. Whether it is true or not, Bernie is associated in many minds with allegiance to policy over party. If I were to give a word of advice to the Hillary campaign, appealing to party affiliation is not a winning issue.

[Cha]

40. Nope. liberal N proud speaks the TRUTH. And, you're not welcome to come into our

group and give advice.

We're quite capable of assessing the situation.

[LeFleur1]

49. I'm Puzzled by His Followers, too

I guess we shouldn't lump every Bernie follower in the same group of Bernie supporters as those on DU, but those on DU are absolutely outrageous in their hatred for Hillary. It's unbelievable. They accuse her of everything, including 'screeching'! Which makes me wonder if it's about how much they support Bernie or if it is about a woman having the audacity to run for President when she has that screechy woman's voice, boobs, female clothing, except for the pants, and a brain and experience. It seems really really scary enough to them for them to go on constant ridiculous attack. Certainly there is a difference in their plans for the future, although we don't really know the details of Bernie's plans.

I know this isn't good for the Democratic Party, and it is especially discouraging because the candidate isn't a Democrat and has made no bones about that fact for twenty years.

[OKNancy]

20. I enjoy

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/index.php

[JimDandy]

52. Brand new Pro-Hillary site (not a pro-Bernie post on it)

is available for your perusal:
http://www.DemocratsForever.org

[workinclasszero]

8. It has been taken over

There are more anti democratic attacks here than freakrepublic

[Andy823]

34. It's been going on for some time

Many of those doing the attacking, are also the same bunch that went after president Obama from day one and started bashing him. They are the same group that wanted to purge the Democratic party of anyone that didn't meet their purity test. They are the same group started their own group last year and pushed the "anyone but Hillary" meme. Their fearless leader was banned back in December I think for trying to get others to join him in writing in Bernie's name if Hillary won. He also was promoting his followers to "protest" at an event Hillary had. His group started their own site where because they "claimed" they were being picked on here, yet they still come here everyday to trash and bash, spew their hate, and as someone else pointed out, dominate the jury pole here.

Everyday more and more GOP trolls flood in here and are welcomed with open arms by this group, at least the trolls that "claim" they are Bernie supporters. Other trolls also come in to help keep the fighting going, and to divide DU. GD-P has become a war zone, and the vast majority of threads or not about issues, but about trashing and bashing. I have decided to stay away from there because it's do damned crazy.

[Cha]

43. "Many of those doing the attacking, are also the same bunch that went after president Obama from

day one and started bashing him."

Exactly. Mahalo Andy!

[Lordquinton]

12. And the Hillary supporters who say they won't vote for Sanders?

You think they should be banned as well?

[MelSC]

14. Where are those guys??

Haven't seen one, but honestly wouldn't blame them for feeling that way if these are the only other dems they talk to on a regular basis. Most likely and empty threat. But yes both should be treated the same...I would vote for Bernie if that was the only choice bc I wouldn't want a Republican in office. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would. For some reason, in 2008, I was upset about ahillary not winning the primary but I really grew to love Obama. He was also a true Democrat

Unless Bernie runs as an Independent then seriously fuck him and his entire bandwagon. It will be their fault we will have a Republican president. Honestly, I'm older and financially secure I won't mind the tax breaks....it's not me who will be harmed by another Republican prez...it will be Bernie's demographic.

[Lordquinton]

50. I didn't realize what group I was in, sorry

I didn't mean to come in here and start anything.

[tkmorris]

16. That's OK see, because he's not a Democrat

Or something...

[yallerdawg]

21. Some days, according to what he said...

he is not a Democrat.

But he's not Hillary, so we should give him a pass...or something.

[tkmorris]

27. As long as he is running in the primary as a Democrat

He is one. He doesn't need a pass.

[yallerdawg]

31. Senator Sanders (I-VT).

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/about

Bernie Sanders is serving his second term in the U.S. Senate after winning re-election in 2012 with 71 percent of the vote. His previous 16 years in the House of Representatives make him the longest serving independent member of Congress in American history.

This is his day job. I don't see anything about Democratic Party in "About Bernie Sanders."

He must 'moonlight' as one.

[JimDandy]

57. I think that's fine, because he ran as an indy for this Senate seat, but

The Senate might prohibit members from stating on the Senate website that they are running for a different elected office, which may be why we haven't seen any info on this page stating that he is runnning for President as a Democrat.

[Cha]

41. No, because he had the bad judgement to want President Obama primaried in 2012.

[mcar]

23. I've seen one or two HRC supporters say that

As compared to dozens of Sanders supporters. Nice try at false equivalence though.

[yallerdawg]

36. When I would argue with them pointlessly...

it often ended with "not a Democrat anyway."

Which is when I stopped arguing with them 'out there.'

[pandr32]

46. Exactly!

[Hekate]

38. Kindly link, please, to all these folks who will never vote for BS. While I've seen people pointing

....out that BS has only been a Dem for about 10 minutes, and spent his career being a gadfly against the Dems, I haven't yet seen anyone say they won't vote for him if nominated. That would be stupid and counterproductive.

There's quite a cohort of Sanders fans here, however, who want Bernie or they'll "bern " the house down. And they say it out loud.

[Cha]

44. There have been 2 sanders fans who have been banned for going against the rules that Skinner

set up. No Hillary supporters have done that.

Don't worry it about it.

[Chalco]

4. I sent a question to admins on Monday about this

and have gotten no response.

Here's what I said: Concerned about the vitriol

I find DU at present very disturbing. In particular the vitriol spewed out about Hillary Clinton. What in the world is DU going to do if she becomes president? The negative vibes seem even worse than when she was running against Obama.

Perhaps, DU needs to consider whether making an official statement about the underlying motivations for the vitriol other than what is being said. Perhaps, DU needs to look within to understand the hatred. The intensity of the hatred is explained by more than what is being purported. It goes much deeper than that. I have some theories but choose not to expose the because I don't feel like being vilified myself.

I think DU needs to do some reflection on what it's all about.

Chalco

[Cha]

45. Thank you for doing that Chalco.. even if you get no response.. you got your opinion out there.

[Chalco]

60. Skinner's response to my concern about the vitriol on DU

Star Member Skinner (61,174 posts)
1. I agree the vitriol is awful. But I also believe the vast, vast majority of DUers...

...will rally around the eventual nominee, whoever it is. We've had two contested primaries before, and every time DUers put the primaries behind them and support the nominee.

Those who don't typically get the boot.
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[LexVegas]

5. They're are in a corner now. To their standards, no one is a progressive. nt

[PeaceNikki]

11. It's fucking disgusting. Every Democrat who so much as says she's decent is immediately thrown

under the bus.

And every person who supports Sanders is an angel - as pure as the fresh-driven snow. Any any sins of their past are forgiven without question and you're a fucking asshole if you so much as mention them!!

[MelSC]

15. You are right

It's a mad house

[still_one]

18. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[MelSC]

19. This isn't Democratic Underground anymore

I don't see many Democrats sorry...


It's more Pee Wee's Playhouse.

[LuvLoogie]

54. Pee Wee's playhouse was actually a really cool place.

The Revolution will be nowhere to be seen once they start passing out the shovels, brooms and hammers. They'll sit in the chat rooms bitching about how we're not doing it right.
.

[OKNancy]

22. I posted this up-thread but

I enjoy http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/index.php

Hillary supporters only.

[FloridaBlues]

24. Bernie and Weaver are instigators of this whole thing

I personnally think this will come back to bite them in the ass on who is allowed to be progressive
I liked her statement who made you the gate keeper of who progessive!

[Kingofalldems]

28. I was just on a jury for this post.

I was #4.

Don't know how to post results but it was 1-6 in your favor.

[liberal N proud]

35. Just lucky to pull a open jury

I have seen some go the other way and you just go huh?

Mabye it just time to step away. Find somewhere that resembles what DU once stood for.

[applegrove]

29. GOP trolls have made it purposely a hostile environment to discuss Hillary.

[Kingofalldems]

30. You got that right.

[shenmue]

33. If we don't put more Democrat in Congress, we are done

[Metric System]

47. I'm about to give up on DU. We can't even post in this group without being hidden by the Bernie

bunch looking to silence dissent. One of the jury members even wrote in the 5-2 decision to hide my thread: "'Every aspect of her life, career, character and achievements have been torn to shreds.' Yes. And?" Meanwhile a thread over in GDP entitled "Smash Clintonism: Why Democrats, Not Republicans, are the Problem" remains active, on a website called DEMOCRATIC Underground!

[Stuckinthebush]

48. Hold on!

It'll be over soon. Many of those posters are trolls. Many aren't real Dems. Once Sanders loses they will go away OR be tombstoned for continued anti-Dem propaganda.

Hold on...don't leave yet!

[liberal N proud]

59. Unbelievable

[Mike Nelson]

51. It's really bad...

...one side, in particular. Much worse than 2008.

[George II]

53. Things were never even close to this before - at any time. In fact, the bush bashing....

....in 2004 wasn't close to what we're seeing today on DU.

I just don't know where to start, but I'm sure everyone here (on BOTH sides) has seen it.

[LuvLoogie]

56. I don't even hate W as much as these guys gate Hillary.

I just don't have it in me. Who can sustain that? What endorphins lead to that kind of addiction. I think the sociopaths are feeding resentment, helplessness and inaction. Then they offer destruction as a resolution.

[LW1977]

58. K&R