Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumSome Fact Checks of the Sixth Democratic Debate
Mrs. Clinton said Bernie Sanders had pushed for regime change in Libya.
True indeed.
As Mr. Sanders tried to distance himself from Mrs. Clinton on advocating regime change, saying it sometimes leads to instability, as it did in Libya, Mrs. Clinton pointed to Mr. Sanders's history on Libya, noting his support for regime change there. Mr. Sanders was a co-sponsor of a 2011 Senate resolution, which passed by unanimous consent, that decried Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi and his regime for engaging "in gross and systematic violations of human rights" and called for "an orderly, irreversible transition to a legitimate democratic government in Libya."
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Mrs. Clinton said Mr. Sanders voted in 1998 for a resolution favoring regime change in Iraq.
He voted 'yea'
During an exchange on foreign policy, Hillary Clinton pointed out that Senator Bernie Sanders voted in 1998 to support "a regime change resolution with respect to Iraq."
Mr. Sanders, on the debate stage, indicated that it was a false claim. And when he had a chance to respond, he seemed to blur the facts, making reference to his later opposition to the Iraq war under the Bush administration.
But the facts show that Mrs. Clinton was correct, at least as it relates to 1998. Then, Mr. Sanders voted for a resolution that called for regime change. In fact, the text of the legislation said, "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
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Mr. Sanders suggested that Mrs. Clinton was not welcoming to child immigrants from Central America.
Not quite so simple
Debating immigration records, Senator Bernie Sanders said he thought that it was a "good idea" to allow children from Honduras and other violent places in Central America to stay in the United States. But he suggested that Hillary Clinton was less welcoming. "That was not, as I understand it, the secretary's position," he said.
Indeed, Mrs. Clinton in 2014 took a position akin to that of President Obama, telling CNN that children "should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults in their families are."
But, on the campaign trail last August, Mrs. Clinton explained that her position was based on sending a message to Central American families that the journey to the United States was too dangerous. "They were robbed, they were raped, they were kidnapped, they were held for ransom by smugglers. So I think it was the responsible message that I and many others, including the White House was trying to say to families, 'Do not let your children, your young children, do this.'
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Mr. Sanders said "real unemployment is close to 10 percent."
Depends which statistic you prefer.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports six different unemployment rates, as our colleague Neil Irwin reported this week.
The official unemployment rate, called U-3, stood at 4.9 percent in January. It represents the total number of people who do not have a job but looked for one in the past four weeks.
But the number cited by Senator Bernie Sanders matches up with another unemployment rate, U-6, which is defined more broadly. It counts as unemployed those who do not have a job but looked for one in the past year, as well as people who want to work full time but had to settle for working part time. That rate stood at 9.9 percent in January.
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Mrs. Clinton said Bernie Sanders's vote against "Ted Kennedy's immigration reform" in 2007 was not progressive.
He wasn't alone on the left.
Hillary Clinton correctly recalls that Senator Bernie Sanders voted against the attempted immigration overhaul in 2007, which was championed by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts.
But Mrs. Clinton cited the vote to suggest that Mr. Sanderss track record as a liberal was impure. The immigration overhaul was doomed by opposition on both the left and the right, and 15 Democrats in the Senate voted to block the measure.
Mr. Sanders opposed it over the issue of guest workers, arguing that the legislation would drive down wages for American workers. That was a view shared by some in the labor movement, including the A.F.L.-C.I.O., which applauded Mr. Sanders in 2007.
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The leader of Goldman Sachs is a billionaire who comes to Congress and tells us we should cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid."
That's not all he said.
Mr. Sanders has made crusading against Wall Street a major part of his campaign.
At Sunday nights debate, he cited Goldman Sachs as an example of how corrupt this system is, and portrayed its chief executive, Lloyd C. Blankfein, as eager to roll back entitlements, despite his own vast wealth.
But Mr. Sanders gave an incomplete picture of Mr. Blankfeins views.
In an interview with CBS News in November 2012 that the Sanders campaign said was the basis for the senator's remarks, Mr. Blankfein said that youre going to have to undoubtedly do something to lower peoples expectations the entitlements, and what people think that theyre going to get. He said that in general, entitlements like Social Security needed to be slowed down and contained, since we cant afford them.
At the time, President Obama and Congress were trying to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. Mr. Blankfein was part of the Campaign to Fix the Debt, a group backed by prominent business leaders that urged lawmakers to reach a deal on deficit reduction.
But Mr. Sanders left out what else Mr. Blankfein said in that interview.
In the long run there has to be more revenue, and of course the burden of that revenue will be disproportionately taken up by wealthier people, Mr. Blankfein said. Thats just logical.
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We lose 33,000 people a year already to gun violence.
The number checks out.
In 2013, the United States had 33,636 firearm deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 60 percent of the deaths 21,175 were the result of suicide.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Votes are on record, they will not be spun into a different result.
Cha
(297,441 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I've put forward countless times here on DU and other sites and I know I've helped a little in Sanders' vetting process, but nothing I've written can compare to the reach of the New York Times, so I'm incredibly happy that they're finally doing the work of vetting ALL candidates, not just Hillary Clinton.
pandr32
(11,595 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Those were his actual words...which means he LIED. And he goes on an on making those faces, like Hillary is making stuff up.
Meanwhile, Hillary is calm, poised... respecting his time and space, never making a face.
In one word, she was PRESIDENTIAL.