What, exactly did Bernie think would happen when his campaign ramped up negative attacks on Hillary?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

I see that a lot of Sanders supporters are outraged that Clinton surrogates dare question Bernie’s record following the recent negative trend in the Sanders campaign rhetoric.

Well, it’s pretty simple: Hillary Clinton is winning the Democratic primary in commanding fashion. As such, she has more power to dictate the boundaries of the race and respond forcefully to her opponent’s strategic choices.

When the Clinton campaign suggested Sanders strike a more positive message rather than attempting to tear down the likely Democratic nominee, it was met with derision. That’s a pretty ironic start to this saga from a candidate and supporters claiming to campaign on a higher ground.

Then it got much worse. The Sanders campaign pushed a massive lie about Clinton’s fundraising. They put Rosario Dawson front and center to push the bullshit FBI investigation angle. While this line of attack is despicable in the first place, it’s that much worse coming from Dawson, who abandoned President Obama two months into his presidency for not Tweeting enough. Surrogates speak for the campaign. Sanders is having a bad week on that front.

What, exactly did Bernie think would happen when his campaign ramped up negative attacks on Hillary? Does Secretary Clinton seem like the type to turn the other cheek forever? Do her surrogates?

Well, you know what they say: “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/2/1509354/-What-did-Bernie-think-would-happen

[liberal N proud]

1. Like the bully who is shocked when his victim retaliates

[cosmicone]

2. Rachel is going to destroy Bernie

Like me, she is losing all respect for the sleaze.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

3. Bernie.... sleaze....???

Oh, that's rich.

[BlueMTexpat]

5. Buh-bye -

unless you simply forgot the sarcasm thingie.

This is the HRC Group. We LIKE Hillary here.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

7. People I talk to who do not support Hillary..

....do not hate her. Nor do we all unite around Sanders, or anyone else.

Fact is, she scares us.

I talk to a lot of people who have sons and daughters in the military.

[BlueMTexpat]

8. She should scare you much less

than any candidate in the GOP.

Because Hillary also actually knows the global scene and is universally admired both for her experience as SoS and with the Clinton Foundation, she is a MUCH likelier bet to keep the US out of war than is Senator Sanders, whose view is a tad too simplistic in general and somewhat misrepresented by his supporters, who may be ignorant of the full story.

OK, so Bernie was right on both of his Iraq War votes and I give him full kudos for that. I am one in the apparent minority who believes that the 1991 Iraq War could and should also have been avoided. But he is not so much of an anti-war politician as some think.

Admittedly, the following article is from Counterpunch, which I find to be hyperbolic generally. But there are several kernels of truth here. http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/16/blood-traces-bernies-iraq-war-hypocrisy/

But Sanders’s shots at Clinton haven’t inflicted much damage this time around, largely because there’s so little breathing space between the two candidates on foreign policy. Both Clinton and Sanders are seasoned interventionists, often advancing their hawkish policies under the ragged banner of “humanitarianism.” (See: Queen of Chaos by Diana Johnstone.)

Sanders supported Bill Clinton’s war on Serbia, voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted, backed Obama’s Libyan debacle and supports an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War.

More problematic for the Senator in Birkenstocks is the little-known fact that Bernie Sanders himself voted twice in support of regime change in Iraq. In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: “It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.”
...
Even Hillary belatedly admitted that her Iraq war vote was a mistake. Bernie, however, has never apologized for his two votes endorsing the overthrow of Saddam. On the rare occasions when Sanders has been confronted about these votes, he has casually dismissed them as being “almost unanimous.” I went back and checked the record. In fact, many members of the progressive caucus in the House, as well as a few libertarian anti-war Members of Congress, vote against the Iraq regime change measures. Here’s a list of the “no” votes on the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998:

More at the link.

[johnp3907]

15. You're actually arguing with a republican.

Check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511612127

That one is going straight onto my ignore list.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

22. You are arguing...

with a man who has a daughter in the military.

[msongs]

10. bernie in charge of the military - angry old man with the button? no thanks

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

11. Both of the above posts...

...make some exceptionally valid points.

I thank you for that.

[BlueMTexpat]

18. You are welcome. eom

[Cha]

23. If you actually know what's going on.. it's straight up accurate.. Shame on BS.

[BlueMTexpat]

4. Love the saying!

Thanks so much for posting this!

[Cha]

24. Well, you know what they say: “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” That one?

yeah, me too.. just came to post it.

[mcar]

6. This is what happens when one believes one's own hype

[book_worm]

9. he and his cry baby supporters apparently think it is OK to attack her but if

he is then attacked it is horrible, just horrible!

[anotherproletariat]

16. Exactly!!! Just what's going on in GD-P. nt

[Koinos]

19. Some of them are paid social media militia, I suspect.

Their job is to attack Hillary and defend Bernie at all costs.

Except that it hurts Bernie's campaign in the end.

[misterhighwasted]

12. Bernie owes Hillary an huge apology.

And all the people he lied to in exagerating this story to smear her name while protecting his own record .

APOLOGIZE TO HILLARY, BERNIE SANDERS

[Dawson Leery]

13. Bernie is the left wing Trump.

As with Trump, Bernie and his gang will not tolerate any critical commentary yet have no problem attacking their opponents.

[anotherproletariat]

17. And his talking points have just about as much substance behind them as Trumps...

Although I prefer Bernie's talking points (they are geared for a liberal audience), look carefully - there is no plan to achieve them.

[Lucinda]

14. KNR

[Walk away]

20. He's just trying to pull a Trump and get on TV without paying for it....

He doesn't want to risk letting anyone but his media buddies to interview him anymore. He doesn't want to answer questions because he can't handle it. His only hope to get free air time for NYS is to act like a complete asshole and accuse Hillary of anything he can think of.
I hope she ignores him.

[Haveadream]

21. Bernie doesn't think of himself as a candidate or politician

That stuff is for the "establishment". Rules of engagement are for sellouts. He sees himself in epic terms and everyone else is supposed to as well. I seriously think he is not psychologically fit for the campaign, never mind being President. He needs to go back to Vermont where he won't do any more harm than shouting at kids to get off his lawn.

[Cha]

25. BS and his surrogates are messing with the wrong woman. First rosorio dawson disrespects

Delores Huerta and then she says real stupid stuff about President Obama.. and now they have her out there disingenuously dissing Hillary.

BS and his surrogates. meh lol

Thank you, Yo Mama

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

26. Why is Rosario Dawson's opinion respected?

What's her accomplishment on the political front?

Even less what's her accomplishment as an actress? Give me a good reason why should I respect her opinion.

[Cha]

27. I don't. No one calls Delores Huerta the "#establishment" just because they don't

support BS. She played Delores Huerta in a movie.. so she knows what she went through.. but, she disregards everything to push BS.

And, no one whines she was disappointed in President Obama 2 months into his term because he didn't use Twitter and he's a failure.. and expects to be listened to by critically thinking people..

They're pushing that because BS needs Obama to be a failure to make his crappy revolution happen..

Too bad for them the President is steady strong @ 53% now. that must really chap their collective whiny butt.

[Dawson Leery]

30. Rosario is a zero in this world.

The blogs have been hijacked by the berniebots, that is why we are hearing so much about this
non-entity.

[SaschaHM]

28. I'm suspect that....

Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver were betting that they could throw in enough gut punches while she was ignoring Bernie and shifting towards the general that Bernie could cut into her vote and leave her extremely vulnerable. At that point, they would try to shift the superdelegates by saying that she was an extremely weak nominee (thanks to their adoption of every right wing smear in the book). Bernie has no connection to the party. He'd gladly burn the entire house down if given the chance.

I want Hillary or her super pac to run an ad chronicling every single derogatory statement that he has made about the Democratic party, including his admission that he only ran for press attention.

[LAS14]

29. Exactly! nt