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Related: About this forumFred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Never saw anything like they have now. What a disaster.
Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)I can confirm that we sure as hell didn't have to do lines like this. Hell, only a few years ago we still had everything we needed. How about you actually talk with Venezuelan people yourself and ask them how things were back then? You're making a fool of yourself right now. Maybe a visit to Venezuela is in order for you?
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)in Ecuador, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, and Venezuela from my last visit in about 2001 and previously.
No fingerprints, no long lines, plenty of products including milk and chicken, no deportation because I am a foreigner, no military patrols, no fights over products. and Venezuela was comparitively rich compared to Colombia, Peru, and Ecuador until quite recently.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)and they do not have these food shortage problems. The problem is the government in Venezuela.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)already much better economically off. That applies to many non hard currency countries.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)its currency, the "Bolivar". When I was there last the exchange rate was something on the order of 5 Bolivares to one US Dollar, and there was no black market for dollars (no need for it - you could exchange B's for dollars freely). Now, the black market rate is around 128 Bolivares to one Dollar since access to dollars at the "official" rate is limited to the chosen few.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)Your point is not really coming across well
Mika
(17,751 posts)Look how US sanctions helped regular Cubans.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)no economic sanctions imposed on Venezuela as a country.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Just like it did in Cuba.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Mika
(17,751 posts)Just like Cuba.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts).
Judi Lynn
(160,616 posts)written by the US Undersecretary of War, John Breckenridge, who said, beside a lot of other pure filth,
.... We must impose a harsh blockade so that hunger and its constant companion, disease, undermine the peaceful population ...
http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/bmemo.htm
As it has ALWAYS been, even in Iraq, for so many long years, the intention to make things so painful the population will be compelled to overthrow their government to ease the pain brought by the US pressure. Who could be so slow to not comprehend this.
Our half-wit right-wingers don't seem to grasp that applying immoral and filthy pressure to the people of countries to put so much suffering on them is so clearly dishonest and evil, a lot of people will go to great lengths to resist US pressure, anyway.
In the long run, it destroys the lives of the people, creates so much needless pain for real human beings who matter, unlike the perverted right-wingers, and points out to everyone that the true trash of the world is in control, rather than in prison. We all know the score, regardless of how many slimy professional right-wing liars cling to our message boards like leeches day by day, trying to interrupt the exchange of REAL information.
That's what they fear the most. The truth being known on a wide scale, despite their criminal efforts.
It always is comical when they throw another reeking propaganda morsel of feces concerning their hated leftist government of the moment. We've seen it all before, for decades. As if they are good at fooling folks.
Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)It's an entry in Aporrea.org, one of the most staunch Chavista blog sites out there, where actual Venezuelans who live the reality of Venezuela every day who call themselves supporters of Chavez write. Maybe this could enlighten you more about the situation.
Mika
(17,751 posts)I'm not an "expert" on all things Venezuela.
Cuba is more my field of experience.
Cheers.
Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)Your point is not coming across well. I suggest you think before you write.
Judi Lynn
(160,616 posts)Mika
(17,751 posts)I don't alert these silly non-sequitur personal attacks. I let them stand on their own merit (or lack of).