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Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:34 AM Jan 2016

“Some very critical things are hidden.”


This is Why Junk Bonds Will Sink Stocks: Moody’s
by Wolf Richter • January 24, 2016


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After the white-knuckle sell-off of global equities that was finally punctuated by a rally late last week, everyone wants to know: Was this the bottom for stocks? And now Moody’s weighs in with an unwelcome warning.

If you want to know where equities are going, look at junk bonds, it says. Specifically, look at the spread in yield between junk bonds and Treasuries. That spread has been widening sharply. And look at the Expected Default Frequency (EDF), a measure of the probability that a company will default over the next 12 months. It has been soaring.

They do that when big problems are festering: The Financial Crisis was already in full swing before the yield spread and the EDF reached today’s levels!

And so, John Lonski, chief economist at Moody’s Capital Markets Research, has a dose of reality for stock-market bottom fishers:

For now, it’s hard to imagine why the equity market will steady if the US high-yield bond spread remains wider than 800 basis points (8 percentage points). Taken together, the highest average EDF metric of US/Canadian non-investment-grade companies of the current recovery and its steepest three-month upturn since March 2009 favor an onerous high-yield bond spread of roughly 850 basis points.


Moody’s EDF began spiking last summer and has nearly doubled since then to 8%, the highest since 2009. ...............(more)

http://wolfstreet.com/2016/01/24/moodys-sours-on-stocks/




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“Some very critical things are hidden.” (Original Post) marmar Jan 2016 OP
Please don't tell me safeinOhio Jan 2016 #1
They will if #jamiedimonsabuela has anything to say about it Fumesucker Jan 2016 #2
Now, that name has a nice ring to it. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #3
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