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Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:54 PM Feb 2013

60 Groups Ask Kerry to Prioritize Climate Action and Reject the Keystone XL Tar Sands Pipeline

Sixty organizations have asked newly appointed Secretary of State John Kerry to take strong action on climate change including rejecting the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline. A letter to Secretary Kerry from the groups announced today asked Kerry to help to secure a global agreement to solve the climate crisis; secure funding for international climate action, particularly for developing countries and vulnerable communities; and reject any new or expanded infrastructure for tar sands oil, starting with the Keystone XL pipeline. The diverse group of signatories representing environmental, conservation, development, faith-based and social justice organizations included Keystone XL as one of its priorities because “the evidence shows it would unlock vast amounts of additional carbon that we cannot afford to burn, extend our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels, endanger health and safety, and put critical water resources at risk.” The letter comes a day after a new study says climate change would have devastating effects to U.S. agriculture long-term and that wildfires will increase doubling the area burned by the middle of the century. The groups said stopping climate change will require the U.S. to reject carbon intensive fuels like tar sands carried by the Keystone XL pipeline to move towards clean, renewable energy sources.

Secretary Kerry takes the helm at the State Department in the midst of a permitting process for the pipeline that will complete an environmental review of the impacts of the pipeline as well as an evaluation of whether the pipeline is in the national interest. Previous reviews by the State Department have been considered to be faulty or too limited. That is why NRDC and other organizations have put out a Keystone XL checklist outlining key issues where a fresh and objective review is required:

- How Keystone XL will lead to an increase in harmful carbon pollution that would otherwise not occur.
- TransCanada’s poor safety record and the safety of tar sands pipelines. Unfortunately, the State of Nebraska signed off on a new route that not minimize the risk to precious water resources.
- How the Keystone XL pipeline is an export pipeline that will go through America – not to it – and would not support U.S. energy security.
- That low-income communities will bear a disproportionate share of the contamination including refinery emissions from processing dirty tar sands.

One of the key problems with the State Department’s previous analysis was its faulty conclusion that Keystone XL would not affect the growth of tar sands development or lead to an increase in harmful carbon pollution. In fact, the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline is a fundamental element enabling the tars ands industry to triple production to over 5 million barrels a day by 2030 and to more than 9 million barrels a day over the longer term. Keystone XL would lock the U.S. into a long-term commitment to an energy infrastructure that relies on dirty oil.

More at: http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ddroitsch/60_groups_ask_kerry_to_priorit.html
Letter at: http://docs.nrdc.org/globalwarming/files/glo_13020501a.pdf
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60 Groups Ask Kerry to Prioritize Climate Action and Reject the Keystone XL Tar Sands Pipeline (Original Post) Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2013 OP
I think this is the real reason Rice was rejected. Deep13 Feb 2013 #1
I think Kerry is or was invested too. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2013 #2
Kerry isn't invested. wtmusic Feb 2013 #5
How about writing this to his predecessor politicasista Feb 2013 #3
Union of Concerned Scientists limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #4
Keystone XL will be built. joshcryer Feb 2013 #6
If that happens, that sucks politicasista Feb 2013 #7
Huh? Clinton had no control over it any more than Obama does. joshcryer Feb 2013 #8
Yes she does politicasista Feb 2013 #9
Why weren't arms given to Syria then? joshcryer Feb 2013 #10
Ok, politicasista Feb 2013 #11
I hope Kerry gets a good concession for it. joshcryer Feb 2013 #12
+1 n/t politicasista Feb 2013 #13

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
1. I think this is the real reason Rice was rejected.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:02 PM
Feb 2013

She was personally invested in that project. She would have lost support on the left when that came out at the hearings.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
2. I think Kerry is or was invested too.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:13 PM
Feb 2013

But to a much a lesser extent (he's super wealthy regardless), so lets hope he takes a stand on environmental principle.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
5. Kerry isn't invested.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:55 PM
Feb 2013

TransCanada hired one of his ex-staffers and is trying to use him as a lobbying tool.

Standard practice.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
3. How about writing this to his predecessor
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:19 PM
Feb 2013

Considering that she purposely left the papers and decision on his desk so that he could take responsibility for her decision.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
7. If that happens, that sucks
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:14 PM
Feb 2013

that he may/will get saddled with this, not Clinton who signed off the on the deal on her watch. Just like Amb Rice took the fall for HER for Benghazi, she is making SOS Kerry take the fall for HER decision and shaming him in front of all the environmentalists.

That really sucks.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
8. Huh? Clinton had no control over it any more than Obama does.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:43 PM
Feb 2013

It's just not politically viable to stop its construction. We need China dependent on our oil. Kerry is powerless to change that. One person does not have absolute control when it comes to this. Even Obama's EPA delay (which was designed to appeal to environmentalists during an election season) is only that, a delay. The delay will end eventually.

Keystone XL: pressure on Kerry ahead of meeting with Canada counterpart
The US secretary of state, John Kerry, steps into America's biggest environmental controversy on Friday in his first meeting with a foreign minister since his swearing in.

Kerry's meeting in Washington with Canadian foreign minister, John Baird, will almost certainly touch on the Keystone XL pipeline project: a symbol of dirty oil for environmentalists, a route to market for land-locked Alberta. "I have no doubt that subject will come up, as it always does with our Canadian counterparts," the state department spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland, told reporters.

Environmental campaigners say Barack Obama's decision on the $7bn (£4.4bn) project will be the litmus test of his inaugural day promise to act on climate change in his second term.

That puts Kerry in an awkward predicament, as both sides ratchet up the pressure over the project, intended to carry crude from the tar sands of Alberta to refineries on the Texas coast.


Kerry will do what the President tells him to do. Kerry will inform the President of what Canada wants the President to do. The President is not going to let China have direct access to most of Canada's oil. We'll sell it to China, sure, but it'll have to be on our terms.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
9. Yes she does
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:53 PM
Feb 2013

Check blm's comments in similar threads. She has already signed off on this and made the decision.

She was SOS too. Even though Kerry sounds like he is against the idea, she knew that delaying it after he takes the SOS oath (and being pro-environment, climate change) makes him the fall guy when she was for the whole thing for the get go. She learned from Bubba how to play the part.

It won't be only Kerry, but Obama will be pressured because he mentioned CC during his inaugural address and he is going to have to step up the action. Don't know how this will play out, but do not care from this game being played by his predecessor all for a future presidential run.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
10. Why weren't arms given to Syria then?
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:26 PM
Feb 2013

Clinton wanted to arm the Syrian rebels, Obama shut that down. The final say is always with Obama. The SoS is simply the face of the President (and the country, of course), not someone who can unilaterally act on their own accord. This is reminiscent of the "Clinton boxed in Obama" arguments that happened when she was selected as SoS. Nah, it's Obama's decision in the end. It sucks but Obama isn't that great of an environmental President. It's unfortunate that Kerry, following Obama's decision, will have to sign off on Keystone as well. When he does sign off on it I do not think it is a slight against Kerry as he will simply be following orders.

That does not make Kerry a "fall guy." He does what the President asks him to do, not what he wants to do. I am sure there will be other areas (particularly when it comes to arming Syrian rebels or acting within the sovereign territories of other states) that he will be able to affect policy and convince the President that action isn't always necessary (Clinton being somewhat of a hawk in that respect). But in this case I do not see his view being very persuasive. 53 senators are already backing the plan. TransCanada thinks it will be approved. However, it appears that it won't be approved any time soon, probably in June.

Again, I do not see Kerry as a "fall guy" for doing what the President wants. The President, and Kerry, can even point to Nature magazine's approval of the pipeline in exchange for more stringent coal plant standards. It would work since we're already well on our way to developing massive fracking based natural gas alternatives. Indeed, John Kerry himself opined that "We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas." Of course, what that quote doesn't tell you is that conventional gas has peaked in the United States and all new natural gas that is coming online is unconventional, and requires fracking:



Our future is not terribly bright and unfortunately one person, or a few people, cannot do much about the direction that human civilization is heading from an environmental standpoint.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
11. Ok,
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:06 PM
Feb 2013

Even though HRC is more hawkish, hope that Obama is willing seek out Kerry's advice and think about this project.

That said, sick of so-called liberal environmental activists (not you) diminishing and downplaying Kerry's environmental credentials/record just to praise other Dems on this issue (i.e. Whitehouse, Waxman, etc).

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. I hope Kerry gets a good concession for it.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:16 PM
Feb 2013

Rep Markey makes a good point about it:



So if Kerry gets a good concession for it and even possibly an environmental fund set up for all government revenue from Keystone, it'd be a win-win. 'cause I don't see it being denied. It's going to suck around here as everyone acts as if Obama caved on an issue and all the good dems are thrown under the bus for something that is really beyond their control.

I've come to expect the environment taking a back seat.
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