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Related: About this forumManatees Are Dying Off, and Florida Is Determined to Speed it Up
On the last day of its annual session, the state Legislature is expected to pass HB 999, a bill that would bar local and county governments from setting their own standards for water quality and wetlands constructionassuming those standards are higher than the state's relatively lax requirements, that is.
The proposed law would also severely limit "testing, sampling, collection, or analysis" of state waters. And it would make about two dozen existing regional water districts "exempt from further wetlands or water quality regulations." One of its key sponsors, Rep. Jimmy Patronis, is the state chairman for the conservative, pro-business American Legislative Exchange Council, and his family owns a swath of Northwest Florida that it pimps out for water-bottling and clear-cutting.
The bill could obliterate the already-threatened Florida manatee, which subsists on quickly disappearing river grasses. In fact, 582 of the burly mammals have died so far in 2013as much as 19 percent of the entire adult populationthanks to a shrinking supply of food and the proliferation of deadly algae blooms like red tide in state waters.
http://gawker.com/manatees-are-dying-off-and-florida-is-determined-to-sp-489114098
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)..If you kill off these animals, you're in essence killing yourself. Only in Florida... a law that would make the manatee extinct. Does this go against Federal Law? Just wondering...
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)why would they about care animals? Remember the Gulf Oil Spill? Oh, yeah, it's perfectly fine to go swimming when tar balls were all washing ashore.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)What kills them will eventually get us.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)below is what I was referring to. If you had read a little further you would have seen it!
"The bill could obliterate the already-threatened Florida manatee, which subsists on quickly disappearing river grasses. In fact, 582 of the burly mammals have died so far in 2013as much as 19 percent of the entire adult populationthanks to a shrinking supply of food and the proliferation of deadly algae blooms like red tide in state waters."
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)If the 582 that have died in 2013 does represent "as much as 19%" of the "adult" population, that means the current population is probably at least around 2,500. Probably more, accounting for the "weasel words" such as "as much as" and "adult population".
In fact according to the "Defenders of Wildlife" site "todays population is estimated at approximately 5,000 individuals." This is up from the 2007 census that put their numbers at 2,800 of in Florida waters, up from 1,300 in the first survey, in 1991. The 2007 numbers were technically enough to take them off the "endangered" list, and move them to "threatened", which, however, was not done.
With increases over time of 1,300 -> 2,800 -> 5,000 it does not seem that the decline in river grass or deadly algae blooms is that much of a factor. Manatees are not going to be "obliterated".
http://www.defenders.org/florida-manatee/background-and-recovery
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/us/06manatees.html
newfie11
(8,159 posts)But I was addressing what was in the post.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)Manatees are increasing in their population, not "dying off". Their numbers have progressed over time from 1,300 to 2,800 to about 5,000 today. The depletion of river grass and deadly algae blooms does not seem to be doing them any net harm, and hasn't done humans any harm either. Quite the opposite, the depletion of river grass is due to increasing human population and greater enjoyment of a "natural environment" along FL coasts.
The doom and gloom is not (always) warranted.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)so I don't know if they're making the situation more dire than it is to bring in more donations. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission has some charts on manatee deaths . Red tide seems to be a problem in Lee County.
http://myfwc.com/media/2477220/2013PreliminaryRedTide.pdf
392 manatees died in all of 2012. http://myfwc.com/media/1777172/YearToDate.pdf
582 have died so far this year. 24 from watercraft, Deaths from red tide are classified as natural and there have been 255 of those in 2013. There were only 65 deaths classified as natural in 2012.
http://myfwc.com/media/2470902/YearToDate.pdf
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)secondvariety
(1,245 posts)on Florida. There was a time that I was rather militant about what was happening here, but as evidenced by the same destructive forces being elected and reelected over and over, apparently the majority of the electorate has no problem with the actions of the Legislature.
You can only tilt at windmills for so long.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)We probably have the most corrupt legislature in the country. And to make matters worse, our Democratic Party is so inept, they can't recruit viable candidates for a lot of races. And when a good candidate does step forward, they undermine them in favor of some corporate turd.
But, what do to you expect? They just "elected" as FDP Chair, a former ChoicePoint lobbyist, whose husband was an attorney for the Bush camp in Bush v Gore.
I love going kayaking down the Anclote River and having Manatees and Dolphins swim right up to you. But, that's going to all end soon.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)has had some decent representation. Charlie Justice left to run against Bill Young (as if anyone can win against that old mummy), Rick Kriseman left after one term because the Legislature is too dysfunctional and Dwight Dudley seems to be off to a good start. It's ironic that one of the most progressive and citizen orientated members of the Legislature is Mike Fasano- a Republican. I've never voted GOP in my life, but I'd vote for Fasano if he ran for a state wide office.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Love the kayaking and canoing. We had Teabaggers claiming that hauling ass through no wake zones in manatee areas is their "constitutional right."
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ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)There is no God.