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Sun May 17, 2015, 05:36 PM May 2015

MIT: Megascale Desalination-World’s largest & cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant

Megascale Desalination: The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.


The Sorek plant was built on the Mediterranean coast, 15km south of Tel Aviv. Image:IDE Technologies.

On a Mediterranean beach 10 miles south of Tel Aviv, Israel, a vast new industrial facility hums around the clock. It is the world’s largest modern seawater desalination plant, providing 20 percent of the water consumed by the country’s households. Built for the Israeli government by Israel Desalination Enterprises, or IDE Technologies, at a cost of around $500 million, it uses a conventional desalination technology called reverse osmosis (RO). Thanks to a series of engineering and materials advances, however, it produces clean water from the sea cheaply and at a scale never before achieved.

Worldwide, some 700 million people don’t have access to enough clean water. In 10 years the number is expected to explode to 1.8 billion. In many places, squeezing fresh water from the ocean might be the only viable way to increase the supply.

The new plant in Israel, called Sorek, was finished in late 2013 but is just now ramping up to its full capacity; it will produce 627,000 cubic meters of water daily, providing evidence that such large desalination facilities are practical. Indeed, desalinated seawater is now a mainstay of the Israeli water supply. Whereas in 2004 the country relied entirely on groundwater and rain, it now has four seawater desalination plants running; Sorek is the largest. Those plants account for 40 percent of Israel’s water supply. By 2016, when additional plants will be running, some 50 percent of the country’s water is expected to come from desalination.

The traditional criticism of reverse-osmosis technology is that it costs too much. The process uses a great deal of energy to force salt water against polymer membranes that have pores small enough to let fresh water through while holding salt ions back. However, Sorek will profitably sell water to the Israeli water authority for 58 U.S. cents per cubic meter (1,000 liters, or about what one person in Israel uses per week), which is a lower price than today’s conventional desalination plants can manage. What’s more, its energy consumption is among the lowest in the world for large-scale desalination plants...

Earlier in development are advanced membranes made of atom-thick sheets of carbon (Graphene), which hold the promise of further cutting the energy needs of desalination plants...MORE
http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/534996/megascale-desalination/

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Water Desalination In Israel
Published on Apr 25, 2012 (Before Sorek)

In Israel, approximately 300 million cubic meters (MCM) of water are desalinated annually. This is done at three different seawater desalination facilities -- Ashkelon, Palmachim and Hadera, as well as at several other salty water desalination facilities. According to the decision made by the government of Israel in 2008, the goal is to achieve an annual desalination volume of 600 MCM as soon as possible, and reach an annual volume of 750 MCM by the year 2020. If this goal is reached, it will be possible to begin restoring groundwater reservoirs and maintain the Kinneret at the preferable water level.

You might ask- "What about desalination in Saudi Arabia?"



World’s Largest Solar Powered Seawater Desalination Plant
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Al Khafji (Saudi Arabia) is the home for what's already referred to as the largest desalination plant fully powered by renewable solar energy.
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MIT: Megascale Desalination-World’s largest & cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant (Original Post) nationalize the fed May 2015 OP
I think it's a great way to provide water in drought stricken areas, and the better the tech gets, MADem May 2015 #1
Yeah, that left over salt is a big problem NV Whino May 2015 #3
Those people outta MIT are pretty doggone smart. MADem May 2015 #4
Can't argue with that NV Whino May 2015 #5
Fantastic shenmue May 2015 #2
Once again, it appears they don't take agricultural use into account with their claims NickB79 May 2015 #6

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. I think it's a great way to provide water in drought stricken areas, and the better the tech gets,
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

and the cheaper the cost, the more I like it.

Now, if they can just find a way to use the salt left behind as, say, rocket fuel or something, then we'd be in a great spot!

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
3. Yeah, that left over salt is a big problem
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:38 PM
May 2015

Desalinization sounds good on the surface, but the earth's oceans are already suffering from various traumas. Depleting them and/or intensifying the saline content is creating other problems.

I'm not against this. I just don't think people are anticipating the repercussions. Just as we didn't anticipate running out of water (or oil) in the first place.

Supplying enough water for the earth's needs is a conundrum , and I'm not sure were smart enough to solve it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Those people outta MIT are pretty doggone smart.
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

I think they'll figure out something.

There's got to be a use for all that leftover salt. We just need to figure out what that use is~!

NickB79

(19,271 posts)
6. Once again, it appears they don't take agricultural use into account with their claims
Mon May 18, 2015, 03:13 PM
May 2015

The numbers presented in your article don't square unless they're only discussing municipal consumption, not total national consumption: http://www.fao.org/nr/water/aquastat/countries_regions/isr/index.stm

And almost 60% of Israel's water demands are from agricultural irrigation and livestock needs.

Desalination is suitable for supplementing city water demands. It is not even close, however, to being a replacement for total water needs, unless a state or nation has almost no agriculture to speak of.

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