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unhappycamper

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Fri Jul 11, 2014, 07:20 AM Jul 2014

American Torturers: We’re all Jack Bauer Now in The 25th Hour

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American Torturers: We’re all Jack Bauer Now in The 25th Hour
By contributors | Jul. 11, 2014
By Rebecca Gordon

Once upon a time, if a character on TV or in a movie tortured someone, it was a sure sign that he was a bad guy. Now, the torturers are the all-American heroes. From 24 to Zero Dark Thirty, it’s been the good guys who wielded the pliers and the waterboards. We’re not only living in a post-9/11 world, we’re stuck with Jack Bauer in the 25th hour.

In 2002, Cofer Black, the former Director of the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center, told a Senate committee, “All I want to say is that there was ‘before’ 9/11 and ‘after’ 9/11. After 9/11 the gloves come off.” He wanted them to understand that Americans now live in a changed world, where, from the point of view of the national security state, anything goes. It was, as he and various top officials in the Bush administration saw it, a dangerous place in which terrorists might be lurking in any airport security line and who knew where else.

Dark-skinned foreigners promoting disturbing religions were driven to destroy us because, as President George W. Bush said more than once, “they hate our freedoms.” It was “them or us.” In such a frightening new world, we were assured, our survival depended in part on brave men and women willing to break precedent and torture some of our enemies for information that would save civilization itself. As part of a new American creed, we learned that torture was the price of security.

These were the ruling fantasies of the era, onscreen and off. But didn’t that sorry phase of our national life end when Bush and his vice president Dick Cheney departed? Wasn’t it over once Barack Obama entered the Oval Office and issued an executive order closing the CIA black sites that the Bush administration had set up across the planet, forbidding what had euphemistically come to be called “enhanced interrogation techniques?” As it happens, no. Though it’s seldom commented upon, the infrastructure for, the capacity for, and the personnel to staff a system of institutionalized state torture remain in place, ready to bloom like a desert plant in a rain shower the next time fear shakes the United States.
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American Torturers: We’re all Jack Bauer Now in The 25th Hour (Original Post) unhappycamper Jul 2014 OP
Having taken the step Babel_17 Jul 2014 #1

Babel_17

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1. Having taken the step
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:36 AM
Jul 2014

Having taken the step, or call it a leap, into the realm of having a system of torture, there is going to be a tendency to always feel a need to justify that.

To end the program is to cast an aspersion on it. And that's going to have a predictable reaction.

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