Palestinians Begin Work To Open Arafat Grave: Source

[Purveyor]

By Agence France-Presse
Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:05 EST

Palestinians on Tuesday began work to open the grave of the late Yasser Arafat ahead of an exhumation of his body for a murder probe, a source close to his family told AFP.

“Today they started removing concrete and stones from Arafat’s mausoleum and the work will last for almost 15 days,” the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“There are several phases,” he said, referring to the operation to open the tomb ahead of a visit by French, Swiss and Russian experts to forensically test Arafat’s remains over suspicions he was poisoned with the radioactive substance polonium.

“It starts with the removal of stone and concrete and cutting the iron (framework) until they reach the soil that covers the body, which will not be removed until the arrival of the French prosecutors, Swiss experts and Russian investigators,” the source said.

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[Ken Burch]

1. Hopefully, this will be clarified once and for all.

A clear cause of death is crucial here.

[King_David]

3. I doubt it.

They should get justice Goldstone to do the autopsy ?

[Ken Burch]

4. It's in Israel's interest as well

for a clear Cause of Death to be established here as well...to put the conspiracy-mongering to rest.

[King_David]

5. It's not possible that the results will be accurate

I can write the report right now and save the "unbiased" coroner the trouble of doing an autopsy..they will point to Israel as the culprits... There will be Israeli flags burnt.. Death to the Jews chants in Cairo , Istanbul , Gaza and Tehran. And they will conclude that Israel is an apartheid state that shrinks penis' and eats babies blood in the matzah.

[holdencaufield]

7. Shhhh...

... we're not supposed to talk about the matzot in front of the oyim-gay.

[Scootaloo]

9. Please proceed, Dave.

Tell us about Goldstone. I'm deeply interested in hearing your in-depth opinion.

[King_David]

11. He apologized and retracted his bogus ruling.

No Nobel prize for the Justice ,

How's that for in depth ?

[Scootaloo]

13. Shallow, as befits you.

Also mythological in whole, but hey... that also fits you Carry on.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

17. What was incorrect in his summary

Goldstone backed away from his own study...though he blamed others for its obvious failings.

[Scootaloo]

22. It was not retracted, for one

There's an actual methods for retracting this stuff, and neither Goldstone nor the three other people that conducted the commission have retracted it.

Further, he has not "backed away," even. He amended a single conclusion reached by the commission, out of about one hundred and ten conclusions (I forget the exact number off the top of my head.) The conclusion was reached because, with the data at hand, it was the only one that could be reached.

As for blaming others.... yes, when the major operating force in a conflict refuses to provide even small scraps of information to a fact-finding commission, it's kind of that force's fault when their information is not considered and presented by the commission.

Anyway. Last time I had this talk, my counterpart went into antisemitic screaming jags about Goldstone. So, let's just avoid that, and pretend we had a sixty-page argument that led to neither of us accepting the others conclusions.

[Mosby]

2. he died from Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation

http://www.timesofisrael.com/absolutely-no-way-arafat-was-poisoned-says-top-doctor-who-teaches-at-paris-hospital-where-palestinian-leader-died/

[azurnoir]

8. that could be true however

intravascular coagulation is a symptom like a sneeze, it doesn't say what caused it much like a sneeze

[King_David]

12. Being a person who graduated from medical school .. I say...

Ha ha ha ha...

[azurnoir]

14. ah so your an MD well being a person who survived intravascular coagulation I am kind of relieved

that my attending Physician(s) did not think the same and pursued the underlying cause

[King_David]

16. Yep

And he probably knew what a symptom was too .

[azurnoir]

19. ah but so do I and in my case it was listed among presenting symptoms

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but if you wish we can play a game I'll give you the other symptoms and you as a Doctor who is a citizen of what was it at least 3 countries or is it 4 can't remember now fluent in how many languages was again? and you can do a Dx, now of course you could these days most likely Google it and be in the ballpark but what the heck

[King_David]

23. You may have had signs and symptoms of DIC

But DIC is not a symptom ...

[azurnoir]

24. as I said it was listed with presenting symptoms along with a few other test results

the blood draw took place with in minutes of my arrival in the ER because of other presenting symptoms such as BP of 58/36 and no I was not self ambulating

[Mosby]

18. well we know for sure what wasn't the cause - poison. nt.

[azurnoir]

20. If memory serves I believe I've read that cirrhosis of the liver was a possibility n/t

[Mosby]

21. cancer, liver disease, sepsis, snake bites and some infections

Can cause DIV, so you are correct about liver problems.

There are other causes as well.

[holdencaufield]

6. Can this please wait ...

... until Halloween 2013?

[Scootaloo]

10. You know, with a HL of 138 days... And seeing as Arafat's been in there since 2004...

I don't think they'd find anything interesting even if it was there to find.

And if they did, Russia's nuclear reactors are pretty much the only source for the particular isotope supposedly found in his effects.

I maintain they're barking up a flag pole that they think is a tree.

[oberliner]

15. This is a fabulous idea

I see nothing but positive things coming from this.