Israelis protest Palestinian prisoner release

[oberliner]

Dozens of Israelis gathered outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's home to protest against the planned release of Palestinian prisoners.

The demonstration on Saturday came as Israel released a list of 26 Palestinian prisoners to be freed next week amid US-sponsored peace talks.

Netanyahu's office said the release of the prisoners was authorised on Saturday evening, and all of those named had served sentences of 19 to 28 years.

The release was to be carried out at least 48 hours after the list was published, in order to give the Israeli High Court time to look into appeals. But since the government already approved the release, the High Court was expected to reject any petitions.

Meir Indor, the chairperson of Almagor, an organisation that operates on behalf of the victims of attacks, warned against the move, noting: "Releasing terrorists will bring more casualty to the area."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/12/israelis-protest-palestinian-prisoner-release-2013122913655481983.html

[oberliner]

1. Names of prisoners being released (and their crimes)

1. Alafandi Mahmad Yusef Adnan, arrested in 1992 for the murder of Dan Rotkowitz, Yaniv Shaham



2. Shahada Farid Shahada Ahmad, arrested in 1985 for the murder of Yosef Farhan



3. Yakoub Muhammad Ouda Ramadan, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Sara Sharon



4. Afana Mustafa Ahmad Muhammad, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Sara Sharon



5. Abu al Rub Mustafa Mahmoud Faisal, arrested in 1991 for the murder of Yoram Cohen, Muhammad Rajoub, Tawfiq Sahab Zahrana, Muhammad Najib abu al-Rub, Ali Fouad abu al-Rub, Arafat Habiba



6. Kamil Awad Ali Ahmad, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Yoram Cohen, Mohi Adin Dahbour, Omar Tawafiq Kamil Assaf, Mahmoud Fatah Taraji, Karim Bazour, Houria Bazour, Mahmad Rajib Muhammad Kamil, Arafat Hamdan, Mahmoud Tawafiq Assaf, Ibrahim Kamil, Naja Sanadiani, Muhaldin Dahbour, Ali abu Rub, Muhammad abu Rub, Hamoud Aljeza Wajiha Salama



7. Damara Ibrahim Mustafa Bilal, arrested in 1989 for the murder of Steven Frederick Rosenfeld



8. Abu Mohsin Khaled Ibrahim Jamal, arrested in 1991 for the murder of Shlomo Yahya



9. Tamimi Rushdi Muhammad Sa’id, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Hayim Mizrahi



10. Silawi Khaled Kamel Osama, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Yusra Qabaria, Mustafa Nafa, Bilal Faiz Mansour, Motti Biton



11. Sawafta Sudqi Abdel Razeq Mouhlas, arrested in 1991 for the murder of Yosef ben Yaacov Malka (Malkin)



12. Barham Fawzi Mustafa Nasser, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Morris Edri



13. Al Shalabi Yusef Ahmad Nawaman, arrested in 1992 for the murder of Jamil Quftan Hason, Mufid Ali Cana’an, Ahmed Ziwad



14. Jaradat Mahmad Anis Ayman, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Mufid Ali Cana’an, Jamil Quftan Hason, Mahmoud Tawafiq Jaradat, Ibrahim Sa’id Ziwad, Adnan Ajwad Dib abu Jasar



15. Shouamra Yunis Mahmad Naim, arrested in 1995 for the murder of Yosi Hayun



16. Taqtuq Lutfi Halma Ibrahim, arrested in 1989 for the murder of Binyamin Meisner


17. Muammar Ata Mahmoud Mahmoud, arrested in 1992 for the murder of Menachem Stern, Hasin Zayd, Hava Weisel, Andrew Rosenberg


18. Salah Khalil Ahmad Ibrahim, arrested in 1992 for the murder of Menachem Stern, Eli Amsalem, Hava Weisel, Andrew Rosenberg


19. Da’agna Nufal Mahmad Mahmoud, arrested in 1993 for the murder of Sara Sharon


20. Abu Hadir Muhammad Yassin Yassin, arrested in 1988 for the murder of Yigal Shahaf


21. Abu Hasin Ahmad Yusef Bilal, arrested in 1988 for the murder of Farouq Raoud Abdulhamid abu Hader


22. Khalef Juma’a Mustafa Ahmad, arrested in 1992 for stabbing Hanan Gur


23. Abu Jamal Ahmed Ibrahim Jamal, arrested in 1994 for attempted murder


24. Mahmoud Mahmad Suleiman, arrested in 1994 for the murder of Shai Shoker


25. Barbakh Judath Zakhi Rami, arrested in 1994 for the murder of Yosef Zandani


26. Abu Ali Faiz Mahmoud Ibrahim, arrested in 1994 for the murder of Ronnie Levy

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4470529,00.html

[jessie04]

4. That's really not funny.

One guy was convicted of murdering *15* people and he's going free ?

I guess he's a victim of oppression.

[oberliner]

6. Most of the people he killed were fellow Palestinians

His group was known for murdering Palestinians he believed were collaborating with Israel in addition to trying to kill Israelis.

[shaayecanaan]

9. Israelis get about six weeks jail for murdering Palestinians...

so I guess you can comfort yourself by reflecting on the fact that 20-odd years doesnt seem so bad:-

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-soldier-sentenced-to-45-days-for-death-of-mother-daughter-in-gaza-war-1.457649

[Scootaloo]

2. Looks like Azurnoir's prediction came true.

Cue the frothing outrage!

[oberliner]

3. Yes indeed

That poster is one of the most prescient. Been at it for a long time!

[Scootaloo]

5. Well, to be totally fair, it's all pretty predictable

[oberliner]

7. Agreed

Hasn't been a lot that isn't lately.

[Violet_Crumble]

8. I'm going to shock yr socks off with something unpredictable!

Santa brought me Rocksmith 2014 and so far I can only get 10% on one of my most favourite songs, 'Here Comes Your Man' by the Pixies, while on the second attempt at a Def Leopard song I truly despise, I got a staggering 70%! That's totally unpredictable!

[shaayecanaan]

10. Thats totally predictable...

given you and I are about the same age I presume. Santa got me Rocksmith 2014 and an Epiphone guitar. I havent bothered fuggering about with my sound card though (PC version) to get it working.

[Violet_Crumble]

12. Okay. Santa's predictable...

I was originally wishing for the bundle as I've got an acoustic and wanted an electric guitar, but as Santa pointed out, I was being a bit greedy since my existing guitar has a jack and would work just fine with it. Santa also gave me her Xbox 360 so I haven't had to muck around with anything to get it going. It's worth toiling away with yr sound card thought as the game's pretty good....

[shaayecanaan]

15. My Santa was thrifty...

and managed to grab the $199 deal for the Les Paul Special II and practice amp, rather than the bundle.

The song list seems a bit shit really.

[Israeli]

11. I have unpredictable great news for you ....

According to the Pixies, the occupation has ended.....!!!!

ref : http://972mag.com/according-to-the-pixies-the-occupation-has-ended/84447/

I’m so happy that the occupation is over and that peace has come to this troubled land so that now the Pixies feel they can come.

I just wish someone had told me!

Lets hear it for 972 .....

Without them and Ha'aretz we would have nothing but Right/Centralist viewpoints posted on here .

[Violet_Crumble]

13. LOL. I must have missed the news that the occupation ended as well!

I've been a Pixies fan for years and years, but when they reformed and tried to recapture their glory days, I wasn't interested in seeing them. It's shallow, but most bands who reform are disappointing, and being even more shallow, Frank Black's piled on the weight. That last bit's hypocritical, as Lou Barlow from Sebadoh has as well, but I'm doing the fangrrl thing and going to see the reformed Sebadoh in February (companion on road-trip to Sydney pending). Anyway, based on reviews I've read, the Pixie are punishing Israel by touring there because they apparently truly sucked....

I agree with you totally when it comes to 972mag in particular. I'd also include Ha'aretz, but they've annoyed me with their requirement to register and only get access to ten articles a month. Before that Ha'aretz was my go-to source for anything to do with the conflict

[oberliner]

16. Life beyond the I/P forum can be very unpredictable!

Inside, not so much.

[Violet_Crumble]

18. Yeah, this forum's very same-old, same-old...

In fact, it was probably very predictable that I'd appear in a thread and start talking about music

[Israeli]

14. So I take it your not to happy ...

...about the prisoner release oberliner ?

You do realize to whom you should be addressing your grievances , dont you ?

.......

This gesture, which in a rare occurrence in the history of the Israeli government's moves is likely not expected to yield any benefit in the future, is the big mistake made by Netanyahu, Livni, Ya'alon and their friends. They had a choice between a temporary settlement construction freeze and the prisoner release, and they picked the second option. They basically had to choose who and what they are more afraid of: The fury of rightists and settlers in Judea and Samaria, or the bereaved families' cry of despair. The prime minister is experienced, and he knows that the uproar over a prisoner release is very short, and disappears after a day or two. Only the bereaved families are left with their grief.

Source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4470314,00.html

[oberliner]

17. It doesn't really affect my happiness one way or the other

My personal choice would be that Israel do something about the settlements rather than releasing these murderers, but, clearly, that's not going to happen.

FYI: I think you meant "you're" as in "you are" and "too" rather than "to"