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Related: About this forumIDF set to open field hospital for wounded Gazans
As civilian casualties mount in the ongoing Gaza conflict, the IDF is set to open a field hospital on the border with the Strip on Sunday evening, with the intention of providing humanitarian services to Palestinians injured in the fighting taking place in the coastal enclave.
Gaza sources have said the number of wounded in the coastal enclave has exceeded 3,000, with many more injured Sunday morning in a large clash between IDF troops and Hamas gunmen in Gazas Shejaiya neighborhood. Israeli military officials said Sunday that they had told civilians to leave the Shejaiya area days ago, ahead of IDF military action in a neighborhood that is a Hamas stronghold.
The facility, which was approved by IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz, will open its doors at 8 p.m. on Sunday, the army said in a statement. The hospital will include an emergency clinic, pediatrician and gynecology services, a delivery room and hospitalization when needed. The staff will include doctors, nurses, x-ray technicians and lab technicians, the statement read. The hospital will treat sick and wounded Palestinians in coordination with the liaison department of the Erez crossing and will open its gates tonight, the statement continued.
In Gaza City Sunday, the Shifa hospital was struggling to reach those in need of case, with many of the wounded walking for hours to receive treatment. Casualties were being brought in by the minute, some in ambulances, others in cars and trucks. Among them were children screaming in agony, many peppered with shrapnel wounds. On Thursday, Gazas Wafa hospital, east of Shejaiya, was attacked in an Israeli airstrike after it was found that Hamas was launching rockets from the location, the army said. Its administration was given hours notice to leave.
Read more: IDF set to open field hospital for wounded Gazans | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-set-to-open-field-hospital-for-wounded-gazans/#ixzz381RAS7ze
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lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)first you mutilate and then try to fix????? Wow. Looking for redemption?
shira
(30,109 posts)...are deliberately designed to defame & darken the Jewish state's image.
Israel isn't trying to mutilate, massacre, or murder anyone. Besides trying to help Palestinians, they've taken in many Syrians and treated them in Israeli hospitals too.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Nobody believes your spin.
shira
(30,109 posts)Mondoweiss was against Hamas signing a ceasefire.
Ironic how they report their faux concern about Palestinian civilians, given they want the war to continue. These are great days for Mondoweiss. This is what they get off on doing. The more Palestinian dead, the better. They're getting off on bashing Israel. This is a win-win for them and their Hamas masters.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Your continued hatred shows through.
shira
(30,109 posts)They wanted more war. Deal with it.
So they and their supporters have some nerve venting outrage at Israel.
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What role does Hamas have in civilian deaths?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)...if Israel's most liberal party, Meretz, were leading the nation against Hamas. I prefer Meretz over any Likud coalition.
As for Bibi, he's a blowhard rightwinger but he makes a helluva lot more sense than the pro-Hamas contingent with their bullshit propaganda talking points.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)After all, Bibi accepted a ceasefire.
Hamas and its western supporters here (Mondoweiss, BDS movement) rejected a ceasefire. And they still do. They're the warmongers. And they support Hamas war crimes (human shielding) against Palestinians b/c they love all the heat (and hate) Israel is taking for civilian lives.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)He needs to remove his troops and make restitution to the Gazans. Then he needs to go to jail.
shira
(30,109 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)...for eternity, while Hamas gets its rocks off?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Israel has to accept that it does not have clean hands here. I am not a hamas supporter nor do I care for them but how can you expect them to stop when israel is killing its citizens.
shira
(30,109 posts)We can't go any further if you fail to comprehend this simple fact.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)falling on civilians?
shira
(30,109 posts)They "win" if they hit Israeli targets and they win if Israel kills innocent civilians in defense against the rockets.
Legally and morally, Hamas is responsible for all lives on both sides as they are committing double war crimes. If Israel DELIBERATELY set out to murder innocents, then that's on Israel, but their efforts show that's not what they're doing.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)....decide on attacks that are ridiculously out of proportion (like taking out 50 civilians while trying to kill 1 Hamasnik).
International Law and Basic Morality puts the blame on Hamas.
If Jeffrey Dahmer is in a crowd of civilians shooting at others 100 feet away, an officer has a right and duty to take Dahmer out, even if he tragically kills one of Dahmer's human shields. That's 100% on Dahmer.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Whether they mean to do it or not they are responsible.
shira
(30,109 posts)....is that on Hamas?
If Hamas launches rockets at Israel from a schoolyard and Israel takes out the rocket launcher, as well as some civilians, is that on Hamas?
If Hamas hides weapons in schools, mosques, and homes and Israel bombs such places, is that any way on Hamas?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I never said hamas is inocent and has no blame.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #32)
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)More aid.
King_David
(14,851 posts)There's only 1 reason Hamas would want free traveling right within Israel .
shira
(30,109 posts)Neither does Europe.
More aid will just go to Hamas. Do you realize what enormous resources Hamas must've spent on their elaborate tunnel system? We're talking hundreds of thousands of tons of building material. Not to mention missiles. That's where all the aid is going.
How do you allow for more concessions to Gazans while preventing Hamas from benefitting?
PCIntern
(25,561 posts)Think REAL hard...
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)"Well we blew your legs off in our bombing run and killed your entire family, but we're so kind to stitch your wounds up aren't we?"
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)They are murdering civilians.
shira
(30,109 posts)Maybe they're not trying to murder civilians, and you're wrong.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)civilians.
shira
(30,109 posts)That's a fact you're going to have a hard time trying to reverse back onto Israel.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Israel could make reasonable consessions with Gaza and the fighting will stop.
Yes hamas is not innocent but neither is Israel.
shira
(30,109 posts)There's simply no defense of Hamas for rejecting it.
And Hamas blackmailing Israel into meeting their demands (or else more rockets) is out of the question. You can't negotiate seriously with a Hamas entity that will keep bombing Israel 'til the last drop of Palestinian blood.
PCIntern
(25,561 posts)You are going to have to repeat the semester.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)PCIntern
(25,561 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)PCIntern
(25,561 posts)you came in here and attempted a ridiculous line of thought which makes no snese at all and then you run away! I suppose he who runs away lives to run away another day.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Response to shira (Reply #8)
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)kjones
(1,053 posts)Their hospitals were blown up.
shira
(30,109 posts)..would they invite and treat Israelis in their hospitals.
kjones
(1,053 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)kjones
(1,053 posts)Things are getting through I guess.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)well with hospitals being shelled and all
shira
(30,109 posts)Too bad you defended Hamas' rejection of a ceasefire.
They are deliberately wasting bandwidth causing you to pee into the wind on a continuous basis. They are not going to say anything, concede anything - their position is illogical in any conceivable framework and gleaned from the Cheney/Rove pattern which we observed for decades. Believe me, if someone had dropped leaflets on them, they'd be running as fast as their little feet could take them away, but their Cheeto-stained keyboards are never going to type out what you want to see.
shira
(30,109 posts)PCIntern
(25,561 posts)I was saying it rhetorically.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)There is no way to reason with someone who doesn't want to be reasoned with. It doesn't matter what the facts are. In the minds of some people Israel is evil. It doesn't matter what it does or doesn't do. Either way Israel is wrong. Always and forever. Hamas is raining rockets and building tunnels to carry out terror attacks, too bad on you Israel. You deserve it. End of story. PC is right. It is a waste of time.
There are few places on the internet right now as ugly as DU. Reasonable discussion and debate is not possible here.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)so according to you Israel bears no responsibility here?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Israel can kill at will and not be responsible for a fucking thing.
Whenever questioned about its killing it hides behind a wall of contempt.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)more and more settlements Israel is building, the gazans have no where to go, I think if you had the restrictions they have to live under you would begin to resent everyone, they lack hope
sabbat hunter
(6,829 posts)is not/was not building any settlements in Gaza, hasn't since 2005.
King_David
(14,851 posts)out to people who speak with such authority on what's happening in Gaza.