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shira

(30,109 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:18 AM Jul 2014

IDF set to open field hospital for wounded Gazans

As civilian casualties mount in the ongoing Gaza conflict, the IDF is set to open a field hospital on the border with the Strip on Sunday evening, with the intention of providing humanitarian services to Palestinians injured in the fighting taking place in the coastal enclave.

Gaza sources have said the number of wounded in the coastal enclave has exceeded 3,000, with many more injured Sunday morning in a large clash between IDF troops and Hamas gunmen in Gaza’s Shejaiya neighborhood. Israeli military officials said Sunday that they had told civilians to leave the Shejaiya area days ago, ahead of IDF military action in a neighborhood that is a Hamas stronghold.

The facility, which was approved by IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz, will open its doors at 8 p.m. on Sunday, the army said in a statement. “The hospital will include an emergency clinic, pediatrician and gynecology services, a delivery room and hospitalization when needed. The staff will include doctors, nurses, x-ray technicians and lab technicians,” the statement read. “The hospital will treat sick and wounded Palestinians in coordination with the liaison department of the Erez crossing and will open its gates tonight,” the statement continued.

In Gaza City Sunday, the Shifa hospital was struggling to reach those in need of case, with many of the wounded walking for hours to receive treatment. Casualties were being brought in by the minute, some in ambulances, others in cars and trucks. Among them were children screaming in agony, many peppered with shrapnel wounds. On Thursday, Gaza’s Wafa hospital, east of Shejaiya, was attacked in an Israeli airstrike after it was found that Hamas was launching rockets from the location, the army said. Its administration was given hours’ notice to leave.

Read more: IDF set to open field hospital for wounded Gazans | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-set-to-open-field-hospital-for-wounded-gazans/#ixzz381RAS7ze
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IDF set to open field hospital for wounded Gazans (Original Post) shira Jul 2014 OP
What irony lsewpershad Jul 2014 #1
It means you don't understand what's going on there. Reports you're getting... shira Jul 2014 #2
Your BS stinks to high heaven. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #4
I'm not the one here posting pro-Hamas propaganda from Mondoweiss. shira Jul 2014 #5
It's really too bad that you are for bombing Palestinian civilians. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #12
Mondoweiss supported Hamas' rejection of ceasefire shira Jul 2014 #13
Do you support bibi? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #14
I support Israel. The same hate would be spewed... shira Jul 2014 #15
Bibi is a warmonger. Killing civilians is unacceptable and he should be brought to justice. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #16
Actually, Israel's Left acknowledges Bibi has tried avoiding war... shira Jul 2014 #17
Lieberman threatened to pull out if I am correct.. He went on the ground to placate Lieberman. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #20
Bibi also fired Dani Danon for drumming up war. n/t shira Jul 2014 #21
So! He still went to war. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #23
What would have Israel do? Make millions of Israelis run to bomb shelters.... shira Jul 2014 #28
I would have them make reasonable consessions and stop killing civilians. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #32
If Hamas cared for its civilians, they'd have agreed to a ceasefire shira Jul 2014 #40
I agree yhat they should have but can we also agree that Israel is responsible for its bombs hrmjustin Jul 2014 #42
Hamas' main strategy is to attack Israel from densely populated civilian areas shira Jul 2014 #43
So Israel has no responsibility for its bombs killing civilians. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #44
Not unless they deliberately seek to murder civilians or..... shira Jul 2014 #46
I have to disagree with you. Israeli bombs are killing civilians. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #47
If Hamas orders civilians to stay in homes after the IDF warns them... shira Jul 2014 #48
Where exactly are they supposed to go? hrmjustin Jul 2014 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #52
Allowing free trsveling rights for gazans. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #53
That is what Hamas wants ? King_David Jul 2014 #60
Egypt doesn't want Hamas terror within their borders; neither does Israel shira Jul 2014 #62
Hey...why do think they elected Bibi? PCIntern Jul 2014 #29
You were asked a direct question. Do you support Netanyahu? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #56
omg. now I get you.. you're not actually trying deliberately to be obtuse.. 2banon Jul 2014 #39
That'll win hearts and minds. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #3
I am sorry but this does not make me feel good about this. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #6
You think it's a propaganda stunt? shira Jul 2014 #8
The pictures of the bodys tell the story. Setting up a hospital does not absolve them from murdering hrmjustin Jul 2014 #9
Israel agreed to a ceasefire. Hamas & its supporters wanted more war, more dead bodies shira Jul 2014 #18
No hard time at all. israeli bombs are killing civilians. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #22
There'd be no more fighting if Hamas had agreed to a ceasefire shira Jul 2014 #30
You FAIL Logic 101 PCIntern Jul 2014 #31
I an not going to respond to your insults. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #33
You just did. nt PCIntern Jul 2014 #35
Good bye! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #36
LOL! Nice try... PCIntern Jul 2014 #37
If you are polite I will respond. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #57
seems almost "telegenic" n/t azurnoir Jul 2014 #7
indeed. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #10
You'll have to excuse the Palestinians for not extending the same humanitarian courtesy. kjones Jul 2014 #11
Hamas wants as many dead Israelis as possible. In no way... shira Jul 2014 #19
Again, Palestinian =/= Hamas member. kjones Jul 2014 #24
Palestinians aren't running Gaza. Hamas is. n/t shira Jul 2014 #26
Well I'm glad you can finally differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas. kjones Jul 2014 #59
well that would be sort of difficult azurnoir Jul 2014 #25
Didn't have to be that way if Hamas accepted a ceasefire shira Jul 2014 #27
shira: PCIntern Jul 2014 #34
Incitement needs to be countered. n/t shira Jul 2014 #41
I know... PCIntern Jul 2014 #45
Shira, it is like arguing with a pretzel. madaboutharry Jul 2014 #50
pointing out facts is not the same as defending azurnoir Jul 2014 #54
It's the same old shit, azurnoir. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #55
one big thing it leaks down to MFM008 Jul 2014 #51
Israel sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #58
Amazing how many times that needs be pointed King_David Jul 2014 #61
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
2. It means you don't understand what's going on there. Reports you're getting...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jul 2014

...are deliberately designed to defame & darken the Jewish state's image.

Israel isn't trying to mutilate, massacre, or murder anyone. Besides trying to help Palestinians, they've taken in many Syrians and treated them in Israeli hospitals too.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
5. I'm not the one here posting pro-Hamas propaganda from Mondoweiss.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jul 2014

Mondoweiss was against Hamas signing a ceasefire.

Ironic how they report their faux concern about Palestinian civilians, given they want the war to continue. These are great days for Mondoweiss. This is what they get off on doing. The more Palestinian dead, the better. They're getting off on bashing Israel. This is a win-win for them and their Hamas masters.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
12. It's really too bad that you are for bombing Palestinian civilians.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jul 2014

Your continued hatred shows through.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. Mondoweiss supported Hamas' rejection of ceasefire
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jul 2014

They wanted more war. Deal with it.

So they and their supporters have some nerve venting outrage at Israel.

========

What role does Hamas have in civilian deaths?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
15. I support Israel. The same hate would be spewed...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jul 2014

...if Israel's most liberal party, Meretz, were leading the nation against Hamas. I prefer Meretz over any Likud coalition.

As for Bibi, he's a blowhard rightwinger but he makes a helluva lot more sense than the pro-Hamas contingent with their bullshit propaganda talking points.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
17. Actually, Israel's Left acknowledges Bibi has tried avoiding war...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jul 2014

After all, Bibi accepted a ceasefire.

Hamas and its western supporters here (Mondoweiss, BDS movement) rejected a ceasefire. And they still do. They're the warmongers. And they support Hamas war crimes (human shielding) against Palestinians b/c they love all the heat (and hate) Israel is taking for civilian lives.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
20. Lieberman threatened to pull out if I am correct.. He went on the ground to placate Lieberman.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jul 2014

He needs to remove his troops and make restitution to the Gazans. Then he needs to go to jail.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
28. What would have Israel do? Make millions of Israelis run to bomb shelters....
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jul 2014

...for eternity, while Hamas gets its rocks off?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
32. I would have them make reasonable consessions and stop killing civilians.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jul 2014

Israel has to accept that it does not have clean hands here. I am not a hamas supporter nor do I care for them but how can you expect them to stop when israel is killing its citizens.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
40. If Hamas cared for its civilians, they'd have agreed to a ceasefire
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:31 PM
Jul 2014

We can't go any further if you fail to comprehend this simple fact.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
42. I agree yhat they should have but can we also agree that Israel is responsible for its bombs
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:34 PM
Jul 2014

falling on civilians?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
43. Hamas' main strategy is to attack Israel from densely populated civilian areas
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jul 2014

They "win" if they hit Israeli targets and they win if Israel kills innocent civilians in defense against the rockets.

Legally and morally, Hamas is responsible for all lives on both sides as they are committing double war crimes. If Israel DELIBERATELY set out to murder innocents, then that's on Israel, but their efforts show that's not what they're doing.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
46. Not unless they deliberately seek to murder civilians or.....
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jul 2014

....decide on attacks that are ridiculously out of proportion (like taking out 50 civilians while trying to kill 1 Hamasnik).

International Law and Basic Morality puts the blame on Hamas.

If Jeffrey Dahmer is in a crowd of civilians shooting at others 100 feet away, an officer has a right and duty to take Dahmer out, even if he tragically kills one of Dahmer's human shields. That's 100% on Dahmer.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
47. I have to disagree with you. Israeli bombs are killing civilians.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

Whether they mean to do it or not they are responsible.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
48. If Hamas orders civilians to stay in homes after the IDF warns them...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jul 2014

....is that on Hamas?

If Hamas launches rockets at Israel from a schoolyard and Israel takes out the rocket launcher, as well as some civilians, is that on Hamas?

If Hamas hides weapons in schools, mosques, and homes and Israel bombs such places, is that any way on Hamas?

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #32)

King_David

(14,851 posts)
60. That is what Hamas wants ?
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:30 PM
Jul 2014

There's only 1 reason Hamas would want free traveling right within Israel .

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
62. Egypt doesn't want Hamas terror within their borders; neither does Israel
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jul 2014

Neither does Europe.

More aid will just go to Hamas. Do you realize what enormous resources Hamas must've spent on their elaborate tunnel system? We're talking hundreds of thousands of tons of building material. Not to mention missiles. That's where all the aid is going.

How do you allow for more concessions to Gazans while preventing Hamas from benefitting?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
3. That'll win hearts and minds.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jul 2014

"Well we blew your legs off in our bombing run and killed your entire family, but we're so kind to stitch your wounds up aren't we?"

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. You think it's a propaganda stunt?
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jul 2014

Maybe they're not trying to murder civilians, and you're wrong.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
9. The pictures of the bodys tell the story. Setting up a hospital does not absolve them from murdering
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jul 2014

civilians.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
18. Israel agreed to a ceasefire. Hamas & its supporters wanted more war, more dead bodies
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jul 2014

That's a fact you're going to have a hard time trying to reverse back onto Israel.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
22. No hard time at all. israeli bombs are killing civilians.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jul 2014

Israel could make reasonable consessions with Gaza and the fighting will stop.

Yes hamas is not innocent but neither is Israel.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
30. There'd be no more fighting if Hamas had agreed to a ceasefire
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jul 2014

There's simply no defense of Hamas for rejecting it.

And Hamas blackmailing Israel into meeting their demands (or else more rockets) is out of the question. You can't negotiate seriously with a Hamas entity that will keep bombing Israel 'til the last drop of Palestinian blood.

PCIntern

(25,561 posts)
37. LOL! Nice try...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

you came in here and attempted a ridiculous line of thought which makes no snese at all and then you run away! I suppose he who runs away lives to run away another day.

Response to shira (Reply #8)

kjones

(1,053 posts)
11. You'll have to excuse the Palestinians for not extending the same humanitarian courtesy.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jul 2014

Their hospitals were blown up.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
19. Hamas wants as many dead Israelis as possible. In no way...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jul 2014

..would they invite and treat Israelis in their hospitals.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
59. Well I'm glad you can finally differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jul 2014

Things are getting through I guess.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
27. Didn't have to be that way if Hamas accepted a ceasefire
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jul 2014

Too bad you defended Hamas' rejection of a ceasefire.

PCIntern

(25,561 posts)
34. shira:
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jul 2014

They are deliberately wasting bandwidth causing you to pee into the wind on a continuous basis. They are not going to say anything, concede anything - their position is illogical in any conceivable framework and gleaned from the Cheney/Rove pattern which we observed for decades. Believe me, if someone had dropped leaflets on them, they'd be running as fast as their little feet could take them away, but their Cheeto-stained keyboards are never going to type out what you want to see.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
50. Shira, it is like arguing with a pretzel.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:11 PM
Jul 2014

There is no way to reason with someone who doesn't want to be reasoned with. It doesn't matter what the facts are. In the minds of some people Israel is evil. It doesn't matter what it does or doesn't do. Either way Israel is wrong. Always and forever. Hamas is raining rockets and building tunnels to carry out terror attacks, too bad on you Israel. You deserve it. End of story. PC is right. It is a waste of time.

There are few places on the internet right now as ugly as DU. Reasonable discussion and debate is not possible here.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
54. pointing out facts is not the same as defending
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jul 2014

so according to you Israel bears no responsibility here?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
55. It's the same old shit, azurnoir.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jul 2014

Israel can kill at will and not be responsible for a fucking thing.

Whenever questioned about its killing it hides behind a wall of contempt.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
51. one big thing it leaks down to
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

more and more settlements Israel is building, the gazans have no where to go, I think if you had the restrictions they have to live under you would begin to resent everyone, they lack hope

King_David

(14,851 posts)
61. Amazing how many times that needs be pointed
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:42 PM
Jul 2014

out to people who speak with such authority on what's happening in Gaza.

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