Egypt to set up buffer zone with Gaza Strip

[shira]

Egypt closing off Gaza tightening the siege there, at war against the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. No global outcry because Jews cannot be blamed.

Egypt is preparing to set up a buffer zone of between 1.5 and 3 kilometers with the Gaza Strip, an Egyptian daily reported Saturday, following a deadly attack in Sinai on Friday that left over 30 Egyptian soldiers dead.

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The decision was also taken to close the Rafah crossing into the Gaza Strip. “The army and the police will take all necessary measures to tackle the dangers of terrorism and its financing, to preserve the security of the region… and protect the lives of citizens,” the presidential decree said.

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Over 15,000 others have been jailed including Morsi and the top leadership of his Muslim Brotherhood, and more than 200 sentenced to death in speedy trials. Relations between Egypt and Gaza’s rulers Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, soured considerably after the ouster.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-said-to-set-up-buffer-zone-with-gaza-strip/#ixzz3HFHIHGep

[Scootaloo]

1. Interesting you call a purge of political rivals and the massacre of over 4,000 civilians "war"

But then I've seen the sort of slaughter you call "self-defense," too so I guess there's no great surprise there

Personally I find John Kerry's new habit of scampering around Cairo, hand-in-hand with that repugnant butcher Fatah al-Sissi to be, currently, probably the most repugnant example of the moral vacuity of US foreign policy.

How about you? Do you actually have a problem with al-sissi's policies and actions?

[shira]

2. It is a war. Over 30 Egyptian soldiers dead recently...

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...due to attacks from the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

But then I've seen the sort of slaughter you call "self-defense," too so I guess there's no great surprise there

That's rich coming from someone like yourself who supported Hamas' rocket attacks on civilians and hundreds of Palestinians dying, so long as Israel later capitulated to Hamas demands. 2000 lives would have been worth it to you had Israel caved to Hamas' demands.

Personally I find John Kerry's new habit of scampering around Cairo, hand-in-hand with that repugnant butcher Fatah al-Sissi to be, currently, probably the most repugnant example of the moral vacuity of US foreign policy.

I don't get American foreign policy either. Outside of Egypt, America is working with Turkey and Qatar in order to fight ISIL. Those 2 countries support ISIL. I'm baffled...

How about you? Do you actually have a problem with al-sissi's policies and actions?

He's a tyrant, no better or worse than any of the other dictators in that area. He's preferred over the Jihadis, however, because as bad as he is they're worse.

[Scootaloo]

5. Well, see Shira...

When Sisi launched his coup, he started this "war' against the Muslim brotherhood by, you know, massacring thousands of Egyptians, two thousand in Cairo alone, imprisoning tens of thousands, sentencing seven hundred of those prisoners to death in mass trials where the defendants were not present.

According to Sisi, all of them were "Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists." Sort of like how according to Vladimir Putin, all of the Ukranians killed and all of hte russians arrested are "terrorists." sort of like hoe the three hundred thousand Indonesians Suharto slaughtered and tossed in pits were "communists" and the three million kileld by the Khmer Rouge were "counter-revolutionaries." One maybe shouldn't be so trusting of mass-murdering tyrannical dictators who seize power in violent coups.

So, are those guys in the Sinai Muslim Brotherhood? Maybe some are. But probably they aren't, since they were shooting at Egyptians when Morsi was president, too. Remember back in 2012, when Morsi tried to send the Egyptian military into Sinai to deal with those guys?

He's a tyrant, no better or worse than any of the other dictators in that area. He's preferred over the Jihadis, however, because as bad as he is they're worse.

So, no, you have no actual problem with what he's doing?

[bemildred]

4. It is so rare that I get to agree with Shira that I want to jump in here.

It is indeed a war, the Jihadis are in the Sinai, and Libya, and Mali, and Yemen. Iran seems to be in Yemen now too. But they have been giving al Sisi a bloody nose in the Sinai lately and one group shot some Israeli soldiers.

I also find our policies in the region confused, at best, and agree about al Sisi. He (al Sisi) might come to think the MB is not so bad one of these days though.

[shira]

3. Abbas supports Egypt's siege

http://paltoday.ps/ar/post/219274/

President Abbas: We support all the measures to be taken by the Egyptian leadership in Sinai.

...the Palestinian leadership, the National Security Council meetings and the Supreme Military Council of Egypt, and the decisions taken by the State in order to protect the Egyptian.

The president said that we stand by Egypt's leadership, government and people, and we support all measures to be taken by the Egyptian leadership in order to maintain security and stability in Egypt, and the face of terrorism in the Sinai and the Egyptian territories of all, because of the service of the Palestinian cause and the Arab national security.

He praised President, Egyptian position courageous in the face of terrorism, asserting sovereignty great confidence that Egypt will overcome the state the odds, and will continue the path of building and maintaining the stability and the future of Egypt and the Arab nation.

[azurnoir]

6. so tell us which side of the border is Egypt's buffer zone on?

Is it in Egyptian territory or is it in Gaza?

[Mosby]

7. why does it matter?

Palestinians can't cross either way, your just trying (badly) to make this political.

[azurnoir]

8. why does Israel choose to put it's buffer zone inside of Gaza eating up 25%-30% of the arable land?

I think it matters do you think it doesn't?