Kyrie Irving of the Cleveland Cavaliers says the earth is flat.

[Iggo]

(I originally posted this in Skepticism, Science, and Pseudoscience, but I think it belongs here instead.)

He went to Duke University, and I assume he's traveled in airplanes. Nevertheless...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kyrie-irving-cavaliers-nba-earth-flat_us_58a7d1a3e4b07602ad54f2c9?dwh0r4a8jsx4huayvi&

“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat,” Irving said, urging people to do their research on the matter. The point guard blamed “them” for lying to us but did not clarify who “they” are.

“What it really came down to for me,” Irving explains, “was everything that was particularly thrown in front of me, I had to be like, ‘OK, this is all a facade, this is all something that they ultimately want me to believe in that is true or whether or not or whatever.’”

x 1,000

[MattP]

1. They?

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. "belief" being the operative word

“I think people should do their own research,” Kyrie reiterated to Markazi. “Hopefully they’ll either back my belief or throw it in the water.”

[underpants]

3. F Dook

[brush]

4. Especially Laettner

[underpants]

7. All of them

Including Coach K

They're so horrible I actually find a reason to root for UNC. I'm a UVA fan.

BTW - I'm almost certain that wearing Duke gear is some sort of white supremacy inside joke. Maybe not full fledged participating supremacist but sympathizers.

[MattP]

5. The Globe Makers? Who is behind this conspiracy

[jberryhill]

15. Big Cartography

The National Geographic has made billions on this "globe" scam.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Once guys believe like him that everything the "establishment" says is wrong & evil, then

... then believing in a flat earth is a natural consequence.

Lack of logical thinking and critical thinking is also a big part of the RWAF mindset.

Table 3: Faulty reasoning

RWA's are more likely to:

Make many incorrect inferences from evidence.
Hold contradictory ideas leading them to `speak out of both sides of their mouths.'
Uncritically accept that many problems are `our most serious problem.'
Uncritically accept insufficient evidence that supports their beliefs.
Uncritically trust people who tell them what they want to hear.
Use many double standards in their thinking and judgements.

They don't look for contradictory evidence (the ways scientists do), they look for and filter for supportive evidence and write off everything else.

[Iggo]

8. Feelings over facts. No education needed. (n/t)

[Earthican]

9. This guy is a role model?

He is obviously not dumb. I do not think you can be dumb and be a world class athlete memorizing multitudes of plays. However, he is not a good role model and this is very concerning.

Aristhothenes proved that not only the world was a sphere but he knew the size of the Earth to within 5 percent of accuracy I believe. This was in 250 BC approximately (forgive me if I do not have the exact dates).

He did this with sticks, foot power and his mind. I doubt 1 in a 100 students these days know who he is, but many know who Kyrie Irving is.

Saying why? constantly like a five year old or being obstinate towards established fact does not equate to scientific inquiry or free thought. This guy is a disgrace to basketball and our educational system. A millionaire who went to Duke.

I would like to sit down with him and explore some of his thinking regarding the theory of gravity and the solar system. Or maybe not.

[Iggo]

10. Everyone's a role model.

We're either good ones or bad ones.

[Earthican]

11. He is paid millions to play a child's game

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For boys and men who wish they were boys to emulate. Sheer wilful stupidity like his is toxic. If Tom Brady said this people would be in disbelief. Why do you think Kyrie should get a pass as just another person who just happens to be famous and owes nothing to his fans? (At least I think you are making that argument). I guarantee every racist who reads about this will feel vindicated. Seriously, how can you defend this walking, talking spouter of bullshit? Are you from Cleveland? 😂 Since he made millions being a basketball player with a public persona I think he is more of a role model than me or any average Joe on the street. And it is also amazing that he understands the theory of gravity in a way I never will (shooting) but cannot direct his mind to a concrete matter like this. There should be a basic level of intellect to be a public persona. It does not bother me a lot, but it is troublesome.

And yes, his job is to be a role model, like it or not. For me personally, he can smoke some reefer if he wants and have 6 girlfriends and even be religious, not a problem. However, I do not like idolizing people who take pride in ignorance no matter how good they are at a child's game. Ignorance can yield horrific results as last election clearly demonstrates.

[Iggo]

12. I'll be nice.

Read what I wrote in my original post. I'll reproduce it right here to make it easy:

&quot I originally posted this in Skepticism, Science, and Pseudoscience, but I think it belongs here instead.)

He went to Duke University, and I assume he's traveled in airplanes. Nevertheless...

x 1,000"



Then, I replied to Bernardo de la Paz, agreeing with his post about people who use faulty reasoning, thusly:

"Feelings over facts. No education needed. (n/t)"



Then, I replied to your post that mentioned role models by saying:

"Everyone's a role model. We're either good ones or bad ones."


Okay? That's everything I wrote that's here in this thread. Point to the part(s) where I'm defending Kyrie Irving.

[Earthican]

13. My apologies

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I may have read a bit into your post, I am pretty good at that. 😊 Not one of my best qualities. I am reading a bit on pacersdigest.com and there are a lot of apologists on there that blow my mind. Anyway, peace bro. 😸✌

[Bucky]

14. when I've been up in an airplane, I start to see his point

I mean, look it what the ground looks like from there. Those "farms" down there are way too small to house people, let alone enough pig stock to feed the whole world bacon.

That's why they make you walk through a tube before getting onto an airplane. That's where they're loading you into the simulator, and then slowly they drive the "airplane" over to the soundstage. Once you're in there they shake the plane and then start rolling the tiny "farms" and fake cotton balls that are supposed to simulate clouds seen from above.

Haha. As if you could see a cloud from above. And what about the fact that you have to go "through" the clouds. It's just smoke or maybe fog! Obviously that's what they do when they are changing the sets that they roll underneath the so-called airplane.

Sorry, Southwest Airlines, you're not fooling anyone.

[cloudbase]

16. Spherical trig is fake math.

It had to be said.

[Iggo]

17. Beautiful.