I am a feminist and in real life i have found most feminists to be very pro-LGBT rights

[La Lioness Priyanka]

With all this stuff going on, I feel obligated to point this out. In my experience feminists are usually allies of LGBT people and a lot of LGBT people are allies of feminists. However this pseudo-feud plays out on DU, i hope we can all remember that DU is mercifully not real life.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. at other times, its sad that Du is not real life

like you have to support equal rights for lGBT people on du. sadly, life is not like that

[TheWraith]

2. If you're referring to a certain Canadian...

...that one is simply a vicious, toxic personality.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

4. i think resentment can be easily spread from one person to the next

which is unfortunately how these things usually play out on du

[William769]

15. FYI

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1139&pid=1984

[TheWraith]

26. Gosh. Let me restrain my total lack of surprise. nt

[obamanut2012]

3. Exactly, Lioness

All of my straight women friends (and straight male friends) are huge LGBT advocates, as are all of my immediate family, and much of my expanded family. From your posts, I think you have the same life experiences.

Our straight allies are wonderful advocates and a support for us.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. Yes and in my experience my straight allies are feminists (both male and female feminists)

[obamanut2012]

7. Right!

[libodem]

9. I agree

I have always thought of myself as pro-women's rights and I support gay rights, too. This is the only place I have been blatantly challenged over my right to refer to myself as a feminist.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. me too

[William769]

6. As a Gay man I have always supported feminists

I feel there is a common bond between the two groups just as I always supported my Lesbian sisters.

With that said I do believe some people are not what they claim to be.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. there is a common bond. its not the same thing but there are enough similarities

that lgbt people and feminists should realize that the existing order of power/gender is oppressive to all of us

[Starry Messenger]

11. Straight feminist here.

It's always seemed apparent to me that LGBT oppression was based in patriarchy and was related to misogyny too. The right-wing haters (and the not so right-wing...) are a common opponent. Forcing the smaller group of LGBT people to "go it alone" in their collective struggle would not be feminist, imo.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. thanks for being an ally

[Neoma]

12. Thank you La Lioness Priyanka.

I could not say it better myself.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. ..

[Vanje]

13. KnR

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. :)

[WhollyHeretic]

14. My wife and I are feminists and ardent supporters of LGBT rights

Unfortunately even in movements that are fighting bigotry you have people who have other bigotries. And some people are just shit-stirrers...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. very true

and thanks for being an ally

[tammywammy]

16. Good post

I never met in real life any feminist that didn't support LGBT rights too.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. thanks!

[closeupready]

17. Misogyny is at the root of both homophobia and sexism. This is why

I think most of those who are feminist are also going to be pro-gay - and in real life, it usually works that way.

K&R

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. hi!

should we schedule drinks soon?

[closeupready]

31. Would love to. I'll send you a PM.

[stevenleser]

37. If you folks are in the NYC area, would like to join you at some point. nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

44. we are in the nyc area

[stevenleser]

49. Excellent. anytime but this weekend.

[Vanje]

25. In real life, thats right.

REAL feminists are allied with GLBT.

[ZombieHorde]

18. Thank you. Edit to add: I think all of the feminsts on DU also

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support the GBLT community, despite any miscommunication that may be happening between individual DUers.

The feminists support the GBLT community, and the GBLT community supports the feminists. They are interlinked with major overlaps.

[Jamastiene]

27. I've had the same experience too.

Most, if not all, of the feminists I have met in real life are pro GLBT rights also.

[yardwork]

28. Every feminist I know in real life strongly supports all human rights.

On the internet, one never knows if a person is who they say they are. A person can identify as a feminist but the proof is in their posts and the impact of what they post, day in and day out.

[mitchtv]

29. my body is my own

a key commonality that makes us allies. There may be differences, but they are not great.The enemy is the same.

[Vanje]

30. Yep!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

32. kick

cos i feel like it needs a kick

[Bluenorthwest]

33. In my life all the feminists are pro all human rights and so are all the gay people

So equality is supported, anti gay sentiment is a form of misogyny anyway. The entire DU dust up is outside my comprehension as it has nothing in common with any of my life experience so it does not make sense to me. The idea that there is some separation and feuding among gay people and feminists seems a construct in the minds of some. It sure is not a separation that exists in my circle or life experience.

[Neoma]

53. No kidding.

[TriMera]

34. Sometimes...

I get shit on because I'm a woman and sometimes I get shit on because I'm a lesbian. Most people that I know IRL understand that the shit comes from the same place and, therefore, it needs to be dealt with in the same way (by all of us). Apparently, it's a little more "complicated" on DU.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. so true

[Broken_Hero]

36. .....

[Not Me]

38. I am a gay man, and

I am also an ardent feminist. I do it for my Mom.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

40. aww. that sounded so sweet

[CreekDog]

39. and with almost the same opinion emanating from many posters

the opinion may be held by less people at DU than posters advocating it.

[Iggo]

41. Mercifully.

[Kurska]

42. I'm all for the goals of feminism, but a quick overview of the feminist forum leads me to believe

that it, as a whole, is a rather unpleasent place with some very big egos.

This whole frackas with the GLBT/LGBT forum and community reflects very badly upon that forum in my eyes. I think said forum is in need of some major house keeping. I won't mention names because frankly it isn't my business, provided they leave the LGBT alone.

Again, nothing against feminist or feminist goals, just not sure how to feel about the forum here.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

43. the feminist forum though are not all feminists

not even the majority of feminists on du.

hence my post

[Scout]

45. it used to be, until recently.

all in the forum were feminists.

but not all on DU who claimed to be feminists posted there.

[Kurska]

46. Understood and conceded.

But that is partly why I'm not happy with the current state of the feminist forum. Feminists are generally very good people and they deserve a forum representative of that quality. The current feminist sub-group on DU falls very short of that standard, at least from my perspective.

There is absolutely zero excuse for one civil rights forum to be acting in an antagonistic way towards another.

[w8liftinglady]

47. My mom and aunt are both hardcore feminists... and welcomed my "coming out" with open arms

[La Lioness Priyanka]

48. :)

[Irishonly]

50. I have alway thought so

I have been shocked at some of the comments made by a few. I hope this blows over and we can get back to working on equal rights for all. Sorry if that sounds sappy but until everyone of us has equal civil rights we must work together.

[Rowdyboy]

51. In 1972 at 19 I came out for the 1st time to my best friend, who was also the first feminist

I ever met. Our college friendship helped educate me about the disgraceful treatment women of that day faced in the job market and even at the liberal school we attended. I was an ignorant, provincial country boy hick and she opened my eyes AND gained my complete trust. Haven't talked to her in over 20 years but I still love her.

The closest women in my life have all been feminists, strong and compassionate and all very accepting. I've never posted in the feminist forum because I don't want to be intrusive but I lurk there sometimes because the issues are often compelling.

I wish you guys only the best in sorting things out in that forum-meanwhile you know this is always home. And there's no place like home....