Has anyone an idea where to get

[sadoldgirl]

the Henry Ford rose? I looked on the internet and the only place responding was asking the same question. Mine is about 20 years old and seems to give up its ghost. Another question: can one rejuvinate an old rose? I have 3 The Fairy roses and they seem to struggle as well. Of course, those I could replace. The grass grows right into the root system; that is why I would like to know how far one can cut into older stems to rescue the plant.

[Scuba]

1. I think I can help ...

http://rosesofyesterday.com/aboutus.html


PM me if you don't find what you're looking for and I can put you in touch with the third generation rose nursery owner who can help.

[sadoldgirl]

2. Thank you, but

I checked their list and Henry Ford is missing. Perhaps I have to join a rose club, but I don't like to join too many.

[Scuba]

3. I'll ask if my friend can help, and get back to you if he can. Their catalogue is not comprehensive.

[sadoldgirl]

4. Thanks again

I just called the ARS and they could not find it either. They suggested asking on facebook, but I am not on that. If anything comes up on the plant I will ask for help how to propagate it if possible.

[Major Nikon]

5. Not all antique roses are propagated by nurseries in any given year

Many growers have catalogs that have thousands of different varitals but may only offer a small subset in any given year. If you can find the rose in a catalog, the grower may be able to custom produce it, but expect to pay 2-4 times more than you would normally.

If you already have one you want to reproduce, it should be a matter of taking a clone from yours and regrowing it (perhaps regrafting it if the original was grafted).

The easiest way to "rejuvinate" an old rose it to cut it off near the surface and let it grow back. Naturally you'll need to be mindful of whether it's a grafted rose or not and cut above the graft. There's lots of reasons roses can struggle. It might be best to try and figure out why they are struggling and try to correct the problem if it's something you want to keep.

[Scuba]

6. Got this reply from my friend ....

""We do not carry that variety as for us it is pretty new. It was hybridized in the 1950's. Sorry."

I guess "new" is a relative term.

[Major Nikon]

7. Found it here:

http://www.vintagegardens.com/rose_content.aspx?cat_id=21&product_id=1065

[sadoldgirl]

9. Thank you so much, but

that Henry Ford rose is a newer one and not the yellow one hybridized in 1927. I still hope that at least one or two branches come up, so that I can try some cuttings with it. The problem is the color of this hybrid. Most yellow tea roses will bleach in our strong sun; yet those with strong colors grow only in zones 6 or higher. At any rate I appreciate your efforts.

[sadoldgirl]

10. Yes, that is the pink one,

the older one is yellow and was hybridized around 1927. However, I truly appreciate your effort.

[Curmudgeoness]

8. I agree that you should figure out why it is struggling.

There is also so problem with cutting it back really far. I cut my Aloha rose down to about 6 inches early spring, and it is six foot high by summer---every year. A neighbor who was a rose connoisseur taught me to cut them short every late winter/early spring.

And just to let you know how hardy many roses are, I dug my rose bush out and threw it away....but must have left some root behind because it came back after two years and is as big as ever. (Note on this, my rose was not a graft, it was started from a cutting that was just stuck in the ground.)

[malokvale77]

11. This is my fail safe method

1. Fill a bucket with sharp sand used for concrete or sand box sand.
2. Moisten to dampness of a wrung out sponge. (keep moist through out process)
3. Take 8 to 12 inch diagonal clippings from best canes and shove about 5 to 6 inches deep in sand.

In 4 to 6 weeks you should have some well rooted roses. Be patient, as some roses may take longer.

I use this method to start other woody plants as well. Good luck.

I have another method to rejuvenate old plants that involves pruning the roots to encourage fresh new feeder roots.