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Stinky The Clown

(67,807 posts)
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:55 PM May 2014

So I went to the pet store to buy a muzzle . . . . .

Our geriatric border collie has shown herself to be a VERY crotchety old lady. If she were a quart of milk, we'd be checking her expiration date. She had infected the whole house with a fair bit of negative energy ever since the new GSD arrived. For her part, the GSD, a normally sweet dog who has no dog aggression issues at all, reacts as anyone might when attacked. She fights back. Thus far, each dog has a wound near an eye, each has one muzzle bite and one head bite, all with broken skin.

We pretty good at separating them without getting between them. (THAT is too, too dangerous with these two.) Once separated, it is over. Until the next time. This has happened three times in the week the GSD has been here.

When the GSD has encountered other dogs (by my estimate, at least 50) on our many walks here and at the park a few miles away, she is almost completely non-reactive, staying, instead, in "heel" with her ear almost touching the outside of my knee. She pretty much ignores other dogs except to glance at them as they pass. On the rare occasion one has barked at her, she does bark, but stops immediately when I tell her to.

Anyway, all of that is the long way around to say the old dog is a problem and is upsetting the whole house. I decided to try a soft muzzle to get a little peace.

The lady at the pet store asked why I wanted a muzzle. I explained. She knows our dogs and suggested the right size for Ms. Thang. Once that was done, she said she wanted to suggest perhaps a more effective, and far less burdensome solution.

This:



It is a diffuser that emits the pheromone (not sure if real or synthetic) a mother dog gives off when nursing a litter. The purpose is to keep the pups calm at this tender time. Turns out, this stuff works on dogs of any age. Not all dogs, but enough that it is worth a try.

So I bought one, along with the muzzle. One way or another, there were going to be no more doggie dust-ups started by DivaDawg.

The damned thing WORKS! The dogs are all calm. Really. I know I sound like an infomercial, but the facts are the facts. Since plugging it in there hasn't been one growl, one evil eye, one sneer or snarl. Toys are being shared.

It is as if the cosmos snatched our geriatric psycho dog and replaced her with her old self.

If you have a need to keep a dog (or dogs) calm, please investigate this. As I said, and as the product itself says, it doesn't work on all dogs, but for those on whom it works, it is very effective. And you have nothing to lose. It has a 30 day money back guarantee. The lady at the store was quick to point out that no one, so far, has returned one. At fifty bucks, if it didn't work, I'd expect someone to want their money back.

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So I went to the pet store to buy a muzzle . . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown May 2014 OP
Awwww shenmue May 2014 #1
We might have to try this. MuseRider May 2014 #2
It does work. I used it for a cat in the past. Lil Missy May 2014 #3
for how long is the trouble. mopinko May 2014 #4
I checked Amazon, they also have a spray dixiegrrrrl May 2014 #5
Amazon reviewers report possible fire danger from diffuser. dixiegrrrrl May 2014 #6
Well, that's interesting TorchTheWitch May 2014 #7
They have spray too! get the red out May 2014 #8
I need to try this. QED May 2014 #9
Used this for a young cat.... CherokeeDem May 2014 #10
Feliway... QED May 2014 #11
That was the name... CherokeeDem May 2014 #12

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
2. We might have to try this.
Sun May 25, 2014, 07:05 PM
May 2014

Our old (14 year old) beagle mix has always been testy but is now just dead damned sure whoever she is after is going to die before she lets go. Our Standard Poodles take it in stride and have figured out how to calm her down by making it into a game. This dog has never played with anyone nor was she ever interested in toys she was only interested in running things

We are driving across several states this weekend with the Poodles to go to a reunion of sorts but we have to take little miss I RULE THE WORLD too. <---please don't take that wrong, we love her with all our hearts but she is the destroyer of all good times. Staying in a hotel with them has us nervous and this could help but mostly it might help in general at home.

Since she has always been this way I doubt it will work 100% however 20% would go a long way to making things easier.

Yup, I have scars from getting in between her and another dog. She never means to bite me but I stick my arm there.......

Thanks, great timing for you to post this as far as I go.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
3. It does work. I used it for a cat in the past.
Sun May 25, 2014, 07:28 PM
May 2014

I used it for a nervous wreck of a cat several years ago and it helped him significantly. I'd get it again if I ever need it.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
4. for how long is the trouble.
Sun May 25, 2014, 07:46 PM
May 2014

i have had dog fighting issues with my stupid neighbor's neglected and aggressive animals. it has been a real problem. there are only so many times i can ask my dog to ignore an attempted attack on me.

dealing with these issues when you must is what all good dog owners do.

but ask yourself this-
what kind of pup are you shaping with this constant contention?

this is why i put my old boxer down. she was good hearted about fighting, all for play, but she kept kicking off fights with any dog that came near.
now i have a dog that is a TON of work to stay on top of.
he is worth it, he is my baby,
but i wish i had seen it earlier.

and wish i could disappear the neighbors old dog, and the young dog now absorbing all that same bs.
packs pass things on. its' your pack.

xoxo

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. I checked Amazon, they also have a spray
Sun May 25, 2014, 09:53 PM
May 2014

for cats and dogs..same thing, just not diffusing type.
Which might be worth my buying, as I have a dog and a cat that are terrible about going to the vet.
and the new young cat has a bad habit of pouncing on the old creaky cat.

Hmmm...will report back.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
7. Well, that's interesting
Mon May 26, 2014, 05:23 AM
May 2014

I've never heard of this thing before. How much area does it cover? If you think it works that's great. I'm not so sure if it's this thing or that the dogs have come to an understanding anyway. What would happen if a while from now you stopped using it? Would the two dogs just learned to have gotten along or would they revert back to the problems of before? I'd hope that after using it for awhile that they learned to get along so you wouldn't have to use it all the time. Have you used the muzzle as well?

The only thing I'd be concerned with is if the muzzle you got is a closed mouth type. I think those are fine where they only have to wear it for a couple of minutes like just enough time for the vet to do a quick procedure or to clip their nails or something, but not for having it on for any length of time. You should look into some of the open mouth "cage" and similar muzzles that allow the dog to breathe normally and with practice even drink water. I like the hard plastic Jasco muzzle mostly because it's strongly constructed for my big beast. You might find that a wire cage muzzle works just as well. I also think the open mouth type muzzle is great for preventing added stress of them not being able to open their mouths to pant or just relax the jaw where a closed mouth muzzle can actually trigger fear or aggression.

This is what I mean by a wire cage muzzle...
http://leerburg.com/wirebasketmuzzles.htm

I've never had to worry about multiple pets getting along since I've only ever had the one dog at a time and no other pets. I never had to think about it at all. I can definitely see how one pet not getting on with another can create hell on the whole household though.


get the red out

(13,466 posts)
8. They have spray too!
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:20 AM
May 2014

I used some at an agility trial and it helped my dog some and even calmed down the Cocker Spaniel crated next to us, LOL.

QED

(2,747 posts)
9. I need to try this.
Thu May 29, 2014, 11:19 PM
May 2014

I had a similar product for an old, and now departed, cat. It worked wonders. I didn't know there was a similar product for dogs. Luckily I still have the diffuser so I'll just need to buy the refills.

THANK YOU!!!!!

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
10. Used this for a young cat....
Fri May 30, 2014, 04:07 PM
May 2014

who was catatonic after a move and when he did begin to adjust was very aggressive to my other cat, who is about a third his size. A friend brought me a comfort zone to try.. she kept one on both levels of her house for her five cats.

It works... my big kitty calmed down, my little one was not as beaten up.

It is a miracle...

QED

(2,747 posts)
11. Feliway...
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:16 PM
May 2014

I couldn't remember the name of it last night. It worked great on my cats also. I ordered the dog stuff last night and can't wait to try it. Maybe my Charlie will stop his anxious whining.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
12. That was the name...
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:37 PM
May 2014

I couldn't remember either. Hope it helps and Charlie feels less anxious quickly.



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