The Shocking 'Christian' Hate Mail Activists Received for Challenging Religious Indoctrination in th

[Half-Century Man]

From Alternet: Valerie Tarico:

The mission of MRFF is “to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.” Some people don’t like that.

They don’t like it because ensuring religious freedom in the military means among other things that:

§ No religion or religious philosophy may be advanced by the United States Armed Forces over any other religion or religious philosophy.

§ No member of the United States Armed Forces may be compelled in any way to conform to a particular religion or religious philosophy.

§ No member of the military may be compelled to endure unwanted religious proselytization, evangelization or persuasion of any sort in a military setting and/or by a military superior or civilian employee of the military.

§ The full exercise of religious freedom includes the right not to subscribe to any particular religion or religious philosophy. The so-called “unchurched” cede no Constitutional rights by want of their separation from organized faith.

http://www.alternet.org/belief/shocking-christian-hate-mail-activists-received-challenging-religious-indoctrination-military


Interesting read. I grew up as an Air Force dependent, yet served my enlistment in the US Navy. I was a little shocked by the lack of general religious talk in the Navy as compared to the Air Force. At the time, I attributed it to the difference between the topics of children and topics discussed by young enlisted men. Perhaps not.

[DetlefK]

1. If they don't get to rule everything, they are the victim and you should be put to death.

Excerpt:
"Fuck your crybaby slut ass wife and fuck your crybaby spoiled children. Who got their fancy air force academy educations all paid for by the GRACE of Amercan CHRISTIAN taxpayers. And just look what we got for our tax money. The family Whiningsteen jew traitors from HELL. Cry cry cry cause you have it so bad in a CHRISTIAN made country. You know what you all happier in North koria or back in Jewsrael. get OUT of our country! Here Jesus is KING and if you dont like it than fuck you."

[Siwsan]

2. I am a Navy veteran, too, and never saw any issues with proselytism

I encountered several very evangelical types during my time as an A school instructor, but even they didn't try to push their views onto either students or staff. I guess everyone knew it wouldn't be appropriate.

My nephew is in the Air Force, now, and I will see him in about a week. I'm going to ask him about what he sees.

[Panich52]

5. Air Force Academy has had a huge problem w/ religious discrinination

for a long time.

Case in point: NYT article - May 12, 2005 ... A chaplain at the Air Force Academy described a "systemic and pervasive" problem of religious proselytizing ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/education/12academy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Yet, after supposedly addressing the problem...

"Air Force is reviewing rule that bars proselytizing by superiors"
May 19, 2014

"The single biggest frustration I’ve had in this job is the perception that somehow there is religious persecution inside the United States Air Force,” Gen. Mark Welsh III told a House Armed Services Committee hearing earlier this spring. “It’s not true.” {U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh III }

Welsh’s irritation underscored the pressure the Air Force is under from Republicans in Congress, evangelical Christians and conservative advocacy groups to end what they allege is the service’s suppression of religious freedom. Their charge isn’t new, but the target is: a regulation designed to prevent religious bias by barring commanders and other leaders from “the actual or apparent use of their positions to promote their religious convictions to their subordinates.”

The controversy represents the latest chapter in the Air Force’s years-long struggle to balance the constitutional right of freedom of faith with the Constitution’s prohibition on the governmental promotion of religion.

"It’s when the commander becomes the preacher that we have a problem,” said a former senior defense official who dealt with the issue but requested anonymity in order to speak freely. “It’s commanders turning to subordinates and saying, ‘Here’s what makes my life worthwhile. It’s going to my church and subscribing to my views.’ ”

"The Air Force religious freedom regulations and practices are inconsistent with the Constitution and with current law,” 20 House of Representatives Republicans wrote in an April 15 letter to Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James. The regulation “introduces a subjective and unworkable restriction on a leader’s ability to speak about their faith.”

-snip-

{Theocrats in Congress at work...}

But Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, a Christian conservative policy institute that leads a coalition of organizations that are fighting the regulation, said that based on what he’d heard from people at the meeting he expected the Air Force to “make a policy change shortly.”

The prospect alarms supporters of the policy, who say a pro-Christian bias in the Air Force remains overwhelming and that the regulation provides an avenue of relief to service members who object to being regaled with their superiors’ religious views or who worry that declining invitations to “voluntary” Bible classes might jeopardize their fitness reports and chances of promotion.

The regulation has been “an umbrella in a tsunami of Christian fundamentalist extremism,” asserted Mikey Weinstein, the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and a former Air Force officer whose outspokenness has won him scorn and death threats.

Since the regulation went into effect, 4,121 Air Force personnel have sought the organization’s help in fending off proselytizing by superiors, Weinstein said. The organization has a 95 percent “success rate” in ending “the offending behavior,” he said. Evangelical Christians draw the largest number of complaints _ ironically enough, from fellow Christians, he said.

-snip-

The regulation grew out of a 2005 uproar over proselytizing by evangelical Christians and Weinstein’s allegations of religious discrimination at the U.S. Air Force Academy, at Colorado Springs, Colo.

Since then, the Air Force has worked hard “at balancing . . . free expression of religion with the needs of the military and not giving the appearance or an actuality of forcing anything or appearing to force,” James told the Senate committee.

Not so, said Perkins of the Family Research Council, which issued a report in March that included a long list of alleged incidents ranging from officers ordered to remove Bibles from their desks to retaliation against personnel for expressing opposition to same-sex marriage. The most recent example cited at recent congressional hearings concerned an Air Force Academy cadet who was ordered to remove a biblical verse from a white board he’d hung on his hallway door.

-snip-

Military culture, however, is very different from the civilian world, the regulation’s defenders responded. The services are closed, clannish and hierarchical, and in such an atmosphere a commander’s exhortation to follow his or her beliefs or an invitation to a voluntary prayer circle can be perceived as tantamount to an order.

To illustrate the point, Weinstein said his organization had received 17 complaints _ all from Protestants _ in early May after a commander at an Air Force base left invitations to a “Purity Ball” _ a religious, high school prom-like event attended by fathers and daughters _ on the chairs of three senior subordinates. The girls take vows to refrain from premarital sex.

The subordinates “understood that they had to distribute the invitations. They distributed them to 212 people,” said Weinstein, who declined to identify the base, the commander or the complainants because of confidentiality considerations.

When one of the complainants confronted the commander with the no-proselytizing regulation, the commander refused to rescind the invitations but agreed not to distribute them next year, Weinstein said.

The commander, he added, declined to issue a statement acknowledging that his action violated the regulation because his superior would see it.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/05/19/227813/air-force-is-reviewing-rule-that.html

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[HappyinLA]

3. My brother in law

is an Air Force lifer. He's born again as needed, usually after a bender. His wife on the other hand is a full on, hard charging fundy who made it her goal to save/convert one airman a week. And as over the top as she is, she's still looked down on by the officer's wives who think they get their orders straight from Jesus.

The Air Force is crazy religious these days.

[Half-Century Man]

4. Maybe it's a SAC (Strategic Air Command) thing.

Ya kinda gotta believe in righteous divine punishments, if you have to contemplate dropping a thermonuclear warhead on a city (or live with people who might).