latest CNN poll.

[gejohnston]

Although a majority of Americans favored major restrictions on guns or an outright ban in the wake of the shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, when a heavily armed gunman killed 20 young students and six adults, a new CNN/ORC International survey indicates that support has tumbled to just 43%, as more time has passed since that December tragedy.

"Support for stricter gun control has fallen dramatically among two groups - older Americans and people who live in rural areas," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "In the immediate aftermath of the shootings in Connecticut, the number of rural Americans who supported major gun restrictions rose to 49% but now that support has dropped 22 points. Support for stricter gun laws dropped 16 points among Americans over 50 years old in that same time."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/18/cnn-poll-is-support-for-gun-control-dipping/

[Arugula Latte]

1. This country sucks. nt

[holdencaufield]

2. Would you like the number of a moving company?

[shadowrider]

30. Perhaps this is more to your liking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262

[HockeyMom]

3. Very vocal, backed by the NRA,

MINORITY.

[shadowrider]

31. Perhaps this is more to your liking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262

[petronius]

4. Assuming the fluctuations are real, I wonder to what extent (if any)

the decline in is due to the scatter-shot, aggressive, 'everything but the kitchen sink (and we'll come for that tomorrow)' tone of post-Newtown gun control proposals. There are things which likely would be effective and deserve widespread support, such that most USAmericans (including myself) can reasonably say we favor more/stricter regulation. But when there's a flurry of unpalatable or useless proposals - poorly-conceived AWBs, bullet taxes, insurance, for example - it's not surprising that support-in-principle morphs into skeptical non-support in terms of the offered specifics...

[slackmaster]

15. They're inherently ephemoral. Not sure what you mean by "real."

That kind of poll really isn't scientific because it doesn't include adequate validity and reliability check questions. People largely vote based on the emotional state of the moment. The bandwagon effect is in full force.

The good news is we don't change our laws one way then another based on that kind of poll.

[Robb]

5. ORC, still predicting Romney will pull ahead!

[Clames]

6. If the numbers were in your favor you'd no doubt be shouting them from the roof top.

Too bad.

[Robb]

10. If ORC's numbers were in my favor, I'd drop dead from shock.

[rdharma]

7. You left out the KEY paragraph!

"Overall, 17% of all Americans believe there should be no restrictions at all on owning guns. Another 38% want only minor restrictions. That works out to 55% who support minor restrictions or no restrictions at all, a gain of nine points since December. Thirty-one percent currently support major restrictions and an additional 12% want to see guns illegal for everyone except police and other authorized personnel."

Did you notice they grouped those who wanted NO restrictions with those who wanted "MINOR" restrictions? What's up with that?

17% want no restrictions BUT........

38% want minor restrictions
31% want major restrictions
12% want to see guns ILLEGAL

That means 81% of those interviewed were in favor of some sort of restrictions!

How can the gun nutters possibly put a "happy face" on that turd sandwich?!!!!

[gejohnston]

8. since there have been federal restrictions since 1927

and various states at different times have had restrictions since the founding, what is your point? Have I, or anyone else around here, suggested we repeal any of the current federal laws?
Depending on how one defines "major" and "minor" 38-69 percent like the status quo.

[rdharma]

9. The poll was quite obviously about future restrictions..... not the "status quo".

Keep diggin'!

[gejohnston]

11. the questions reflect no such thing

Your point is as intoxicating as Cherrywine.

[rdharma]

12. Is "nuh uh" your argument?

BTW - It's Cheerwine!

[gejohnston]

13. I'm glad you noticed

Well, its better than your gunsmithing skills. My argument is "I read the questions".

[rdharma]

14. "I read the questions".

So the questions mentioned past federal restrictions?

Keep diggin'!

BTW - My gun smithing skills are fine. Sorry if I sometimes talk over your head!

[gejohnston]

20. restrictions still in force

including the one Harding signed.

[rdharma]

21. Keep diggin'!

Look at the way the poll is worded! They aren't talking about United States v. Miller!

[gejohnston]

23. Harding didn't sign NFA

FDR did. Few people actually know what the Miller Act is, and has never been challenged. I read how it is worded. You might want to read it again once you sleep off the Cheerwine and Kirin Free.

[rdharma]

24. HUH?

I didn't mention NFA, FDR, or even Harding ........ Too much Cheerwine sugary drink, my friend? Makes kids HYPERACTIVE!

[Clames]

16. You almost had a point.

Too bad you failed. Again.


55% basically like things they way they are and understand that what has been pushed so far is basically bullshit in regards to doing anything meaningful to reduce gun crime.


Turd sandwich? Oh you mean that turd that Reid flushed earlier this week. Tough shit....

[rdharma]

17. Nope. Check again. Only 17% don't want changes/restrictions

Keep doing the "Kermit the frog flail"!

[Clames]

18. Wrong again.

Must be a theme for you. Reading comprehension is just not your thing.

17% want no restrictions. That means they want to remove existing restrictions. To quote:

Overall, 17% of all Americans believe there should be no restrictions at all on owning guns.

Nothing mentioned about "changes". Obviously you have some problem with reading what is actually there without inserting what you imagine... So much fail.

[rdharma]

19. Nothing mentioned about "changes".

Hmmmm! So, since there is nothing mentioned about "changes"............ I guess that "no restrictions" means no changes to current law! Keep diggin', you 17%!

[Clames]

22. Laughable.

You lose on everything you post.... Now you admit you made up the part about "changes".... Keep on with the fail.

[rdharma]

25. nt

[spin]

26. The term "gun nutters" MIGHT fit those who do not want any gun restrictions but ...

the majority of gun owners support effective laws that help prevent violent criminals and those with severe mental issues from easily obtaining firearms. They also wish that these laws are consistently and strongly enforced.

But perhaps you believe that all gun owners are "gun nutters." If so, 80 to 100 million adults, including me, fit your description. I fall into the group that supports minor restrictions.

I find it somewhat disappointing that only 31% support at least some restrictions but am encouraged that only 12% want to ban firearms.

I do not feel insulted if you do lump me into the category of "gun nutters" but some may. I do feel that if we ever want to make headway on reducing the problem of gun violence, we all should make an attempt to stop insulting each other. For example, I refuse to insult those who wish to ban and confiscate firearms. I disagree with their view but feel they have every right to hold it. I would never call them fools or idiots as they may have suffered personal tragedies in their lives caused by firearms.

[applegrove]

27. Fuck!

[ileus]

28. amazing that 43% are still willing to give up more of their rights.

Of course we must ask of those 43% what % actually take advantage of their right to self defense?

What these 43% are giving up are our rights, how gracious of them.

[rdharma]

29. Rights?

Or gun cuddling "hobby/fetish"?!!!!

[sylvi]

32. It was inevitable

Once people started thinking with their cortices again rather than their midbrains. Of course there are some who take a longer than others, and still some other grab nuts who never reach that level at all.

That's why the grab nuts were so anxious to strike while the emotion iron was hot. Time, and its ability to bring perspective and logical thinking to bear, is their greatest enemy.