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ileus

(15,396 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:31 AM Dec 2013

No gun for you....when off duty that is.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/12/state_trooper_cant_have_gun_wh.html



Pennsylvania State Trooper Michael L. Keyes is in an odd situation.

When on duty, he can carry a gun.

Yet while off duty, he is barred by law from possessing any firearms, because seven years ago he suffered from deep depression, repeatedly tried to kill himself by taking drugs and was involuntarily committed for mental health treatment.

Keyes' latest attempt to be allowed to have a gun all the time was rejected this week by the state Superior Court.


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Hope he doesn't go off the deep end while on duty.

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No gun for you....when off duty that is. (Original Post) ileus Dec 2013 OP
Most of us never "go off teh deep end" at all Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #1
if the dr's have taken him off his meds. littlewolf Dec 2013 #2
Our laws need to be updated. X_Digger Dec 2013 #3

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
1. Most of us never "go off teh deep end" at all
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 10:41 AM
Dec 2013

The vast majority of mentally ill people are more likely to be a danger to themselves than to others. That's why the rule barring mentally ill people from having firearms is a good one. In this case, it's being taken to ridiculous extremes because most mentally ill people will also recover from their illness and go on to live perfectly normal lives.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
2. if the dr's have taken him off his meds.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:25 AM
Dec 2013

the court should take that into consideration.
will the MH professionals testify that he is over
the depression that he suffered from?

it is cases like this that keeps ppl from seeking MH help
in the first place.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
3. Our laws need to be updated.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:28 PM
Dec 2013

The 1968 GCA was written when the typical 'treatment' for mental illness was involuntary commitment, frequently for decades of a patient's life. There was little understanding about actual treatment- if you were broken, you could never be fixed.

That's a perception that lingers in popular culture today. However, we've come a long way in effectively treating depression and suicidal ideation among other mental conditions that might make one a danger to themselves or others.

The GCA needs to be updated to match the current realities in clinical treatment. It's not an easy challenge, but it needs to be done.

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