Advocates continue to push for more stringent gun laws

[SecularMotion]

Proponents of strict firearms regulation are urging the state to continue to lead in the fight against gun violence. Victims, gun control supporters and Assembly members met on the Million Dollar Staircase Tuesday, voicing their support for the SAFE Act and encouraging the state to adopt additional legislation to prevent gun violence.

"New York has the fourth lowest gun death rate in the nation, I want to be number one," Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel, D-Great Neck, said. "As long as children and innocents are murdered with illegal guns, we cannot stop. We, all of us, are the moderate voices asking for sensible gun laws."

Schimel co-chairs State Legislators Against Illegal Guns — a group of 50 lawmakers dedicated to reducing gun-violence — along with Assemblyman Brian Kavanagh, D-Manhattan, and Sen. Eric Adams, D-Prospect Heights.

SLAIG along with New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, victims of gun violence and other advocates are pushing for the adoption of a number of measures. Among them are requiring trigger locks or safe storage of all guns when not in the possession of the owner, and for all semiautomatic handguns sold or delivered in New York to be capable of microstamping. Other components of the agenda include limiting handgun purchases to one a month, imposing a ten-day waiting period before a buyer takes possession of a new firearm and banning the sale of certain .50 caliber rifles.

http://www.legislativegazette.com/Articles-Top-Stories-c-2014-04-02-87415.113122-Advocates-continue-to-push-for-more-stringent-gun-laws.html

[friendly_iconoclast]

1. Hmm, how many members of SLAIG will end up being indicted in the next few years?

Judging by the record of their mayoral counterparts (MAIG), my estimate
is a minimum of two.

And then there's this howler (Note the dates):

The last paragraph of the lead story, dated April 2 (emphasis added):

"The New York SAFE Act is the law of New York state, and it is being implemented and enforced as we speak," Executive Director of NYAGV Leah Gunn Barrett said. "But as long as New Yorkers continue to die from gun violence there is more our state can do to encourage responsible gun ownership and use."

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/State-Police-guide-amended-to-ignore-seven-round-5355959.php

State Police guide amended to ignore seven-round rule after court ruling on NY SAFE Act
State Police update won't enforce magazine limit after court ruling
By Rick Karlin
Published 10:17 pm, Thursday, March 27, 2014


The official State Police guide for enforcing the NY SAFE Act gun control law has been amended to allow more than seven rounds in a weapon — at least for the time being.

The decision follows a December court ruling that struck down the seven-round limit, but prompted questions about whether that change applied to the entire state or not.

That's led to an update to the guidelines that police are supposed to follow when enforcing the 2013 law. "New PL section 265.37 had made it a crime to load any magazine with more than 7 rounds of ammunition, regardless of the capacity of the magazine," reads part of the guidelines.

But, they continue, "the Court held that this section, 'Unlawful Possession of Certain Ammunition Feeding Devices,' was unconstitutional. As a result of the Court's decision members are instructed not to enforce PL 265.37 at this time.''

[NYC_SKP]

2. Talk about "Gun Nuts" and "Fetishists".... These people just can't think of anything else.

It's an obsession, it's not healthy.

[gejohnston]

3. do these people believe their own bullshit?

"New York has the fourth lowest gun death rate in the nation, I want to be number one," Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel, D-Great Neck, said. "As long as children and innocents are murdered with illegal guns, we cannot stop. We, all of us, are the moderate voices asking for sensible gun laws."

If people are being murdered with illegal guns, why are all their efforts aimed at legal guns, and licensed gun owners?

Schimel co-chairs State Legislators Against Illegal Guns — a group of 50 lawmakers dedicated to reducing gun-violence — along with Assemblyman Brian Kavanagh, D-Manhattan, and Sen. Eric Adams, D-Prospect Heights.

Among them are requiring trigger locks or safe storage of all guns when not in the possession of the owner,

Fairly reasonable.

and for all semiautomatic handguns sold or delivered in New York to be capable of microstamping.

which doesn't work, and not do anything.

Other components of the agenda include limiting handgun purchases to one a month, imposing a ten-day waiting period before a buyer takes possession of a new firearm

I thought they were talking about illegal guns? How would this do anything about the South Bronx?

and banning the sale of certain .50 caliber rifles.

Which are not used in crimes, and are among the few guns legal in UK.
I'm missing the sensible part.

[blueridge3210]

4. I wonder what the OP thinks? (NT)

[Straw Man]

5. Eh?

Trigger locks and safe storage? A fine idea in theory, but impossible to enforce as law without home inspections, something that raises nasty privacy issues.

One handgun a month? In a state where every handgun purchased has to registered to its owner before the transaction can be completed? Anybody who's going to try trafficking by buying legal handguns in New York deserves to be locked up for sheer stupidity.

Waiting periods? Useless for anyone who owns firearms already.

Microstamping operates on the same essential principle as COBIS, which was cancelled as an expensive boondoggle after failing to solve a single crime after 10 years and millions of taxpayer dollars. The only difference is that the cost of microstamping will be borne by manufacturers and consumers of firearms, not by the taxpayers. In other words, "We don't give a shit that it doesn't solve crimes; it harasses gun owners and doesn't cost us anything, so let's do it."

Banning "certain" .50 cals? Which ones? Why? It's not a crime gun, and no, it can't shoot down an airliner.

Sensible? C'est a rire ...

[flamin lib]

6. I have it on good authority gun owners are law abiding citizens so enforcement won't

be necessary. Snark aside most people do obey the law and simply making this a law will, because of most people's good nature, help reduce gun deaths. That plus the "Gee, I hadn't thought of that," educational factor.

Shouldn't our goal to be to reduce gun deaths where we can?

[Straw Man]

7. Laudable on the goal.

I can't believe that any gun owner hasn't heard of safe storage. The NRA has been pushing it hard for years. I don't see how making it an unenforceable law will do anything to further that goal.

Any law for which "enforcement won't be necessary" doesn't need to be a law. A simple public relations campaign will do.