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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:13 PM Jul 2015

Gun Shop Owner Announces ‘Muslim-Free Zone’ At Store For ‘Safety Of Patriots’

Full article at Reverb Press

In response to a Kuwait-born gunman’s shooting rampage in Chattanooga, Tennessee that killed four Marines and a sailor, a Florida gun shop owner has declared his store off-limits to all Muslims.

Florida Gun Supply store owner Andy Hallinan posted a Youtube video explaining his decision, claiming that by banning Muslims from his story and denying them training, he is protecting his “fellow patriots.”


“Effective immediately, I’m declaring Florida Gun Supply as a Muslim-free zone. I will not arm and train those who wish to do harm to my fellow patriots.”


Better link to a similar article at NY Daily News

“We are in battle, patriots, but not only with Islamic extremism,” he said. “We’re also in battle against extreme political correctness that threatens our lives, because if we can’t call evil, evil for fear of offending people, then we can’t really defeat out enemies.”

In addition to barring Muslims from the store, Florida Gun Supply will also offer free conceal carry classes and open its practice shooting range to the public, so citizens can be properly trained to carry daily, Hallinan said.

“Our leaders are telling you that Islam is a peaceful religion full of tolerance and love and hope. Don’t believe their lies,” he said in the video.

He also defended the Confederate flag — “This flag represents nothing but the rich heritage of the South” — before issuing his battle against Islam.
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Gun Shop Owner Announces ‘Muslim-Free Zone’ At Store For ‘Safety Of Patriots’ (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2015 OP
Bet the gun lover owner refuses to bake cakes for gay weddings, fears ISIS, and is a big fan of the NRA. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #1
I thought you were anti-gun discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #3
You reversed the meaning of my post...why don't you alert on it? I think there should be no sales Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #5
Point by point discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #20
I don't speak for Fred, only for myself Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2015 #7
It is indeed ridiculous and Islamaphobic to use religious affinity to bar 2A rights. Better to have equal control of gun ownership. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #9
I'm sure some of my Mormon ancestors faced the same thing gejohnston Jul 2015 #15
I know where the place is gejohnston Jul 2015 #13
Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #21
I just share the articles Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2015 #4
The only ones who think it easy to "round up Muslims" are also the ones scared to death of Obama FEMA camps? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #12
Is the fact he's putting fewer guns on the street a good or bad thing? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #6
Modern motor oil is longer-lived than older types... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #2
I exclusively use synthetic oil with my Hybrid Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2015 #8
I used to use 10-40 in my 71 Nova, gejohnston Jul 2015 #10
Generally, most cars have a lower prefix number such as 5w - 30 for my 21 yr old van. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #16
Most, if not all, new vehicles come with "halfsyn" a equal mix of synthetic and regular oil. oneshooter Jul 2015 #17
I use full synthetic Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #19
Crazy gun shop owner also hearts the Confederate flag, Islamaphobia and violence. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #11
given that some of his employees quit in protest gejohnston Jul 2015 #14
He defends the Confederate flag. So it's not OK for Muslims to shoot at American soldiers muntrv Jul 2015 #18
heh Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #22

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Bet the gun lover owner refuses to bake cakes for gay weddings, fears ISIS, and is a big fan of the NRA.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jul 2015

In other words, utterly, hopelessly, religiously insane.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,482 posts)
3. I thought you were anti-gun
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015

Most folks that are anti-gun like additional restrictions.

May I infer that you:
- don't like that shop owner's beliefs,
- don't like that he sells guns,
- don't like that he may not dislike the NRA and
- but think that he SHOULD sell guns to Muslims?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. You reversed the meaning of my post...why don't you alert on it? I think there should be no sales
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

of guns to anyone including Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and whatever religion the NRA is until proper gun control is in place to reduce the violence of 320 million guns in America....but you picked out Muslims...interesting.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,482 posts)
20. Point by point
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015
You reversed the meaning of my post

Sorry about that chief.


why don't you alert on it?

Fred....I'm not that kind of guy.


I think there should be no sales of guns to anyone...

Why?


...you picked out Muslims...

No, the OP picked an article about Muslims to which you responded. I just asked a question.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
7. I don't speak for Fred, only for myself
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jul 2015

I have no problems with the sale of any legal product, and I see the NRA as the analog to the ACLU, with the NRA focusing on the 2nd Amendment and the ACLU focusing more on the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 14th.

I think not selling any product to anyone based on their faith or ethnicity is a dangerous and slippery slope.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. It is indeed ridiculous and Islamaphobic to use religious affinity to bar 2A rights. Better to have equal control of gun ownership.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jul 2015

Ban everyone from owning guns until better controls properly funded are in place, religious affiliation is irrelevant, like it says in another part of the Constitution.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
13. I know where the place is
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:41 PM
Jul 2015

since I have business in Citrus County. As a life long Wyoming resident, I can't buy any of his guns. Not that I would, I don't do business with assholes.
I found out through the grapevine that some of his employees quit in protest over the video. For his sake, I hope his bound book is in order. There was a guy in New Port Richy who got in trouble with the state over racial discrimination. When the ATF did an inspection on his inventory, his inventory control was less than steller. He has a factory job and living in a very secure gated community.
Ten bucks for a box of .22 shells? WTF.

If you happen to be in his general neighborhood, I highly recommend Stumpknockers

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
4. I just share the articles
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015

That said, especially given the recent Wes Clark comments, I don't think one would have to work too hard to convince many Americans that rounding up Muslims (a la the Japanese in WW II) and throwing them in camps would be a swell idea.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. The only ones who think it easy to "round up Muslims" are also the ones scared to death of Obama FEMA camps?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jul 2015
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
2. Modern motor oil is longer-lived than older types...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:21 PM
Jul 2015

Modern motor oil can safely exceed the recommended change frequencies commonly used for older motor oil types. This also applies for "conventional," non-synthetic oils. These extended intervals apply to in-town driving as well as less demanding highway use. Check your auto manufacturer's recommendations, but longer change intervals are good news for the motoring public!

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
8. I exclusively use synthetic oil with my Hybrid
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:31 PM
Jul 2015

I extend the life of a motor that helps me use less foreign oil.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
16. Generally, most cars have a lower prefix number such as 5w - 30 for my 21 yr old van.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

This probably represents closer bearing tolerances which need thinner oil for cold-start lubrication. I'd stick with the blend recommended for the year/make/model of the car, but whatever it is, modern blends should last longer. Improvements in the oil to meet more modern engines are normally reflected in the API rating, which gives increasingly higher "letter" ratings over the years. Modern oil API ratings are inclusive of older ratings with a given oil's blend & weight. So, an oil with a 10-40 API SD rating (years ago and obsolete) is not as long-lived as the newer ratings. I don't know if a 10 - 40 is made with an API SN rating (the latest), but it should last longer and is suitable for older cars with that 10-40 rating. 5w-30 is the most common blend going, currently.

I heard that 40+ year old Corollas needed a heavier blend than was recommended once the car had extensive mileage. How valid that rec. is, I don't know. Some folks I knew were using 10-50 without evident harm. May have calmed down the old pushrod's timing chain!

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
17. Most, if not all, new vehicles come with "halfsyn" a equal mix of synthetic and regular oil.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jul 2015

After the first 5000 miles I would recommend going to full synthetic of the proper viscosity. A good oil filter will also help the engine last longer.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. Crazy gun shop owner also hearts the Confederate flag, Islamaphobia and violence.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:36 PM
Jul 2015

Who will support, and deflect, for the poor persecuted gun shop owner?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
14. given that some of his employees quit in protest
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

one of those former employees might know of some inventory control irregularities the ATF might be interested in.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
18. He defends the Confederate flag. So it's not OK for Muslims to shoot at American soldiers
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jul 2015

but he's OK with white southerners shooting at American soldiers. Go figure.

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